Topic: Joey Barton. Bad wool.

[DeLeiva]

Not the place for it, but I agree with Barton and I haven't said that very often.

Yep.

[elsewhere]

Funny thing is Yossi comes across as very childish and an airhead and he makes Barton look like Mandela

[Redcap]

Embarrassing for Benayoun, more like.

[RedSince86]

Not the place for it, but I agree with Barton and I haven't said that very often.

I second that.

But you cannot blame yossi for his comment,israelis are very patriotic even moreso with the national service all israelis have to do.

[AB LFC]

Benayoun's an idiot.

[Fiasco]

Benayoun knows no better.

[Anywhichwayicant]

Lost all respect for Yossi. Shameful reply.

[Cattive Maniere]

[Fiasco]

Even when Barton speaks sense, he has to be a childish prick and ruin it. So if you have bad grammar you are instantly stupid? I can't stand him.

[Lucas DuoFlush]

Yossi's reply is trash whichever side of the debate you favour, but he is right in calling Barton out on it. I like that Barton has tried to turn his life around and takes a keen interest in art and politics and improving his knowledge, but really we don't need footballers talking about the situation in Israel. We're talking about an ongoing crisis which academics who have spent decades of their life researching still fail to have conviction on.

[Corkboy]

Even when Barton speaks sense, he has to be a childish prick and ruin it. So if you have bad grammar you are instantly stupid? I can't stand him.

Yossi called him stupid first, without even saying why.

[HighSix]

Footballers or not those five tweets summed up the situation well especially the blinkered reply from Yossi. 

[redgriffin73]

Even when Barton speaks sense, he has to be a childish prick and ruin it. So if you have bad grammar you are instantly stupid? I can't stand him.

Bit harsh when English isn't Yossi's first language too. But yeah, Yossi's tweet was very poor.

[deano2727]

Barton is spot on.

I wouldn't be too critical of Yossi though, because as someone has mentioned, it is a highly patriotic country, with all able bodies required to do a minimum of (dont quote me on the time span) 2 years in the Israeli Defence Force. It is also a war that has been ongoing for a long, long time. Each side will be set in their ways, and who can blame them I suppose. Obviously being neutral, as most of us are, allows us to see it from a more rational point of view.

[elsewhere]

That's actually very class from Barton,he still had the decency to end with wishing him and loved ones to be safe.

Keep in mind,Yossi is the one that attacked Barton's tweet first out of nowhere with that thrashy shameful response.

[Malaysian Kopite]

Yossi's come across very poorly there. Feel like a prick for defending him from the abuse he received when he came on tour here.

[Fiasco]

Yossi called him stupid first, without even saying why.

I don't disagree with what Barton is saying. But Barton classes himself as this great intellectual and I think it's very short sighted to pick on someone's grammar in a debate, seems incredibly childish. Especially when, as redgriffin said, it's not his first language.

Petty argument I know, but it just sums Barton up for me.

[Phil M]

Have to laugh at Barton correcting Yossi's grammar and then he replies "because a fictional book from thousands of years ago tells you can."

[EmotionalCitrus]

It amazes me how many people still take notice of this of this self-publicising, pseudo-intellectual waste of skin.

[carling]

Have to laugh at Barton correcting Yossi's grammar and then he replies "because a fictional book from thousands of years ago tells you can."

Aye, it's a bit rich considering Barton's own grammar is garbage.  I presume it's Yossi's second language as well.

[stoa]

Barton's tweets are as stupid as Yossi's...

[elsewhere]

Yossi's reply is trash whichever side of the debate you favour, but he is right in calling Barton out on it. I like that Barton has tried to turn his life around and takes a keen interest in art and politics and improving his knowledge, but really we don't need footballers talking about the situation in Israel. We're talking about an ongoing crisis which academics who have spent decades of their life researching still fail to have conviction on.

I actually wish more footballers gave their opinions and called Israel to end this.

[Persephone]

I actually wish more footballers gave their opinions and called Israel to end this.

Agree with you mate, should we all keep quiet because we aren't academics or politicians? Barton is a Muppet but his support for the people being affected is spot on.

[OneTouchFooty]

I agree with Barton on the issue, but bringing grammar into it just makes him look a c*nt. I'd love to see how good his Hebrew is.

[Yiannis]

^^I seriously doubt Barton would have mentioned Yossi's poor grammar if the latter hadn't been an ass to him.

[Lucas21]

I don't disagree with what Barton is saying. But Barton classes himself as this great intellectual and I think it's very short sighted to pick on someone's grammar in a debate, seems incredibly childish. Especially when, as redgriffin said, it's not his first language.

Petty argument I know, but it just sums Barton up for me.

Exact same thing with Piers Moron

[Redman0151]

It amazes me how many people still take notice of this of this self-publicising, pseudo-intellectual waste of skin.

Bit out of order mate, especially considering all the publicity he helped bring to Hillsborough

[Anywhichwayicant]

It amazes me how many people still take notice of this of this self-publicising, pseudo-intellectual waste of skin.

Better than him sitting on his hands and being a rent-a-quote in the media, like 99% of players.


Using his position to bring important issues to a wide audience.

[kirkbywool]

Fair play to Barton for this as he is spot on, dissapointed in Yossi though. 

[Wrigley]

Yossi's reply is trash whichever side of the debate you favour, but he is right in calling Barton out on it. I like that Barton has tried to turn his life around and takes a keen interest in art and politics and improving his knowledge, but really we don't need footballers talking about the situation in Israel. We're talking about an ongoing crisis which academics who have spent decades of their life researching still fail to have conviction on.

I don't think it's right that people ignorantly wade in to sensitive issues as I imagine Barton's done, but to say you have to be an academic to have an opinion or to voice it is dangerous, the political class has vested interest. Politics or economics aren't compliated anyone can understand them, it's the political class that obscures matters justifying the existance of a profession which does little to contribute to the world.

[Lucas DuoFlush]

I don't think it's right that people ignorantly wade in to sensitive issues as I imagine Barton's done, but to say you have to be an academic to have an opinion or to voice it is dangerous, the political class has vested interest. Politics or economics aren't compliated anyone can understand them, it's the political class that obscures matters justifying the existance of a profession which does little to contribute to the world.

I'm not saying that, I'm saying people should debate the subject with caution - its arrogant to do otherwise.

[stoa]

I'm not saying that, I'm saying people should debate the subject with caution - its arrogant to do otherwise.

It's stupid to try and "debate" the subject on Twitter. And Barton's tweet is the perfect example for that. Yes, it is wrong to kill children, but Barton makes it look like there's a side that's good and a side that's bad, when they are both as bad as each other. And he makes it look like the "West" only had to say "Stop it" and everything was fine which is simply stupid when the matter has been an issue for almost 100 years and no viable solution has been found in all those years.

[Pistolero]

I like Barton. An oddball yes - but an interesting character...a phrase as rare as a rocking horse laxatives when describing footballers.....has the balls to speak out about Hillsborough as well....something that the snide kunts posting on this thread about his pseudo-intellectualism would do well to remember.

[rob1408]

I like Barton. An oddball yes - but an interesting character...a phrase as rare as a rocking horse laxatives when describing footballers.....has the balls to speak out about Hillsborough as well....something that the snide kunts posting on this thread about his pseudo-intellectualism would do well to remember.

Well maybe they remember some of his more unsavoury aspects.  You like him ? Good for you, I don't think I could ever like someone who put a cigar out on someone's eye.

[Upinsmoke]

Well maybe they remember some of his more unsavoury aspects.  You like him ? Good for you, I don't think I could ever like someone who put a cigar out on someone's eye.

Or batter somebody in the street. A violent man, condemning violence....just doesn't sit right.

[laximaginationzzz]

Reading the convo above, I took his last comment about wishing Yossi and his family well as sarcastic.

[LFC Boy]

Good lad Joey. On this matter at least, as well as Hillsborough.

[Bunter]

Or batter somebody in the street. A violent man, condemning violence....just doesn't sit right.

Do we not believe in redemption and rehabilitation though? He's trying to turn his life around and it's refreshing to hear a footballer, someone that can have an actual effect on issues and reach out to a larger audience, speak out on important matters.

I know he's not a one man crusade for resolving the crisis and could be a little subtler with his words at times, but he's intelligent enough to see what's going on and calls it as it is.

[elsewhere]

Barton makes it look like there's a side that's good and a side that's bad, when they are both as bad as each other.

That's really not the case though.Number of attacks and casualties tell the truth. But I guess this should be discussed in another thread.

[markedasred]

It's stupid to try and "debate" the subject on Twitter. And Barton's tweet is the perfect example for that. Yes, it is wrong to kill children, but Barton makes it look like there's a side that's good and a side that's bad, when they are both as bad as each other. And he makes it look like the "West" only had to say "Stop it" and everything was fine which is simply stupid when the matter has been an issue for almost 100 years and no viable solution has been found in all those years.

Do you really think the vile oppressive behaviour of Israel against Palestinians over the past 60 years is not one of the crimes of the century?. If you think there is a fair fight going on you need another think. The west screwed up when we decided in the 40's to give away a country we did not own to give away. The Zionist methods of maintaining control by denying the Palestinians basic resources like roads, settlement, clean drinking water and a chance to earn a living is a total disgrace. There is a small scale war over there, but there is only one side acting as oppressor.