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« on: November 17, 2008, 07:08:08 pm »

Trailers for the new Star Trek movie with the all new Spock and Kirk and Simon Pegg as Scottie

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/

You like it? I likes it.




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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2008, 07:21:54 pm »
Went to see the new Bond movie last Friday as that's when it opened here in the US.


They had the trailers there as well. Looked pretty good.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 07:26:43 pm »

No way will it scale the heights of Wrath of Khan.

But then, what does?



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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 07:36:47 pm »
No way will it scale the heights of Wrath of Khan.

But then, what does?

Truth indeed

Ricardo Montalban - what casting.

Hope it isn't too gadgety and serious, will miss the point.




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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 07:37:57 pm »
Simon Pegg as Scottie?

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Weird. But me likes it.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 07:42:17 pm »
Zachery Quinto as Spock is just genius casting.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 07:48:27 pm »
Zachery Quinto as Spock is just genius casting.
Oh, Syler !

Looks Vulcan already, so no real change for him.

But the nutters will be outside the local cinema in costume for this ....

Our club is next door, coming in for work in the morning pushing past assorted Vulcans again methinks.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 08:48:15 pm »
very impressive, will be looking forward to seeing it come may.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 08:52:56 pm »
No way will it scale the heights of Wrath of Khan.

But then, what does?

As Simon Pegg himself said - its an odd number film, and every one knows that only even Trek films are any good...

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2008, 08:53:03 pm »
Looks good. They all seem a bit young and pretty though! If they were given a choice of saving earth from the Klingons or putting on some nice clothes and makeup - I'm not sure earth would win

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 08:53:32 pm »
As Simon Pegg himself said - its an odd number film, and every one knows that only even Trek films are any good...

Nemesis put that one to bed ;)

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2008, 09:32:44 pm »
Nemesis put that one to bed ;)

In the time it took me to get from that sentence to the smiley, I began swearing at you in Klingon.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2008, 10:16:37 pm »
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Obviously, he’s not going to say that the movie he's in sucks, but it is worth noting that one of Simon Pegg’s previous characters, Tim Bisley of Spaced, said “there are some things in life that are just fact. And one of those facts is that every odd-numbered Star Trek movie is s**t.” Speaking with Wired.com, Pegg was put on the spot about the line, to which he responded that there are exceptions to every rule, and that he has “been made to participate in his own wrong proving.”
   
JJ Abrams has this habit of putting me in the position of making me eat my own words. When I was doing press for Shaun of the Dead, a journalist asked me if I was going to go off to Hollywood now. I said: “I'm not gonna just run off and do some film like Mission: Impossible: III.” I just made up a film. Four months later, JJ calls me and asks me if I wanted to be in Mission: Impossible: III and I was like: “Yes!” Oh what a fool.

This odd-numbered film is going to be amazing.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2008, 11:36:18 pm »
The last two were shit, as was Enterprise and half of Voyager.

This whole film reaks to me of a bad idea, if they were going to do another film they should've based it around Deep Space Nine and the return of Sisko, or whacked out another one for Picard. It seems pointless casting new people in an old story...

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2008, 07:37:02 pm »
"And on the pedestal these words appear: 'My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!' Nothing beside remains."

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2008, 07:38:33 pm »
That's shitty. She was always great in TNG.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2008, 08:07:20 pm »
Feck - RIP Majel.  Could've out-Spocked Spock as her character Number One if given the chance but that was far too progressive for those days.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2008, 08:24:18 pm »
RIP Majel. Very sad


As for the film. Well I'm very excited as I'm a bit of Trekkie and Ive been checking its progress for ages now. I do have a few issues with the Trailer though! First of all; why can the young Kirk drive? When in the original seriesand STIV its clearly shown he can not! And secondly why is the Enterprise-A absolutely massive in the shot when you see it being built? It was only about 300 meters long, but it looks huge! Thirdly... Chris Pine as Kirk!!! Chris Pine! What a drab piece of casting! Even so, I'm very excited. My main worry is that it will all be half decent sci-fi, but not good Trek!
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2008, 09:19:33 pm »
Zachery Quinto as Spock is just genius casting.
Although I'm a big fan of Star Trek I've never been a big lover of the films. But that casting might just make me watch.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2008, 09:57:56 pm »
Majel Barrett will always be the computer voice to me. A boss legacy imo. RIP.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2008, 10:46:14 pm »
well you learn a new thing every day, didn't know the story behind who was the voice of the ship's computer
she couldn't count for toffee though
she never got to number 1 on the numerous self destruct countdowns... :P

can't wait for the new movie, I'm a bit of a Tr...well if your posting in here you are one aren't you
does anyone know what the premise is for the new movie ?
seeing as there all young suspect a prequel type movie
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2008, 10:53:18 pm »
does anyone know what the premise is for the new movie ?
seeing as there all young suspect a prequel type movie
It's an alternate reality type thing rather than just a remake of the original, apparently.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2008, 11:04:25 pm »
It's an alternate reality type thing rather than just a remake of the original, apparently.

I hope it's not a CGI fest, a good storyline makes all the difference.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2008, 12:37:03 am »
does anyone know what the premise is for the new movie ?
seeing as there all young suspect a prequel type movie

think it's a prequel, showing their first mission(s?) as a crew. but leonard nimoy will be shown at one point so it may be safe to assume hinky time travel's (or an alt universe) involved too.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2008, 09:53:41 pm »
RIP Majel/Nurse Chapel/Lwxwanna Troi/The Computer.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2008, 10:06:24 pm »
The new movie looks good so far.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2008, 10:15:09 pm »
Sad....

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2008/12/18/roddenberry-majel-obit.html

I never knew any of that, she was married to Roddenberry, she was in the first show, she was Deanna Troi's mum and she was the computer. That's a Trek legend.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2008, 10:19:35 pm »
I never knew any of that, she was married to Roddenberry, she was in the first show, she was Deanna Troi's mum and she was the computer. That's a Trek legend.
By all accounts she was great to all the fans, too.  Turning up to conventions as often as possible, always staying late to see everyone, if another actor had to pull out of a fan-thing she'd ring round the actors from all of the series and make sure there was a replacement etc...
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2008, 10:23:13 pm »
think it's a prequel, showing their first mission(s?) as a crew. but leonard nimoy will be shown at one point so it may be safe to assume hinky time travel's (or an alt universe) involved too.

sounds like the old space time continuum chestnut. I hope not.

I think something original is required to kick start the films again.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2008, 11:11:48 pm »
sounds like the old space time continuum chestnut. I hope not.

I think something original is required to kick start the films again.

To be honest, I think Star Trek is pretty much dead in terms of doing "something new"/being kick started.

This film does actually look pretty good, but it just doesn't really "fit" with the rest of the franchise. It's all previously been sort of telling the same story in different places, timelines been important etc. Enterprise fucked it up a bit, but that was pretty shite anyway.

There's not really a great deal left for them to do really. They've done all the exploring episodes they can do, they've had a war and human catastrophes etc. It's run its course!

The films have almost always been shite anyway, I can think of two I'd say were genuinely quality movies (Wrath of Khan and First Contact).

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2008, 01:03:21 am »
But all of Enterprise was wiped out by the final episode, I think...

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I haven't seen it, but from what I know the whole thing turned out to be a holodeck adventure being watched by Troi and Riker. Yes, I know.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2008, 04:45:18 pm »
But all of Enterprise was wiped out by the final episode, I think...

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I haven't seen it, but from what I know the whole thing turned out to be a holodeck adventure being watched by Troi and Riker. Yes, I know.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2008, 04:53:00 pm »
To be honest, I think Star Trek is pretty much dead in terms of doing "something new"/being kick started.

This film does actually look pretty good, but it just doesn't really "fit" with the rest of the franchise. It's all previously been sort of telling the same story in different places, timelines been important etc. Enterprise fucked it up a bit, but that was pretty shite anyway.

There's not really a great deal left for them to do really. They've done all the exploring episodes they can do, they've had a war and human catastrophes etc. It's run its course!

The films have almost always been shite anyway, I can think of two I'd say were genuinely quality movies (Wrath of Khan and First Contact).


The Wrath of Khan was abysmal.

Thought the first one was good, the Search for Spock was OK, First Contact was good, The time travel one was also good and I liked Nemesis.

The others were all OK - except the Wrath of Khan. How can you like that when the fella playing the title role clearly has part of a male shop dummy strapped to his chest?
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2008, 03:18:18 pm »
I'm just hoping this new film will do to Star Trek what Batman Begins and The Dark Knight did for Batman. The director and cast seem promising...so does the trailer.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2008, 03:22:42 pm »

The Wrath of Khan was abysmal.


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Agree with what was said above - First Contact and the Wrath of Khan are the two that stand out

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« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2008, 03:30:18 pm »
First Contact is underrated.



"The Best Of Both Worlds" double episode was the greatest Star Trek film never made.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2008, 03:42:17 pm »
Lwxwanna Troi

Was she the mum of whassername Troi, and she went into a deep coma and Picard went inside her mind and there was a dog in there and it turns out she had another child who died in a pond?

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2008, 03:43:31 pm »

"The Best Of Both Worlds" double episode was the greatest Star Trek film never made.

Spot on easily the best feature length piece be it a film or a 2 part episode.The Borg were completely over done from then it was like 'oh we're short of a story.....I  know lets bring back the Borg'
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« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2008, 03:47:44 pm »
"The Best Of Both Worlds" double episode was the greatest Star Trek film never made.

Very true.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2008, 03:53:31 pm »
I always wished that they would make a new series called Starfleet Command and make it like West Wing meets Star Trek.