Topic: Arsenal

[The North Bank]

As your own supporters will tell you Kolasinac was bought in January, joined the club in the summer. So not a summer transfer window purchase.

That doesnt make sense, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesnt matter.

[MagicHat]

I don't think Arsenal fans should be too downhearted yet. Sanchez could well go on to have a good season. You've lost two tough away games, against us at our peak, and against Stoke. You've struggled there before, and were unlucky anyway.

Start worrying if you start dropping points against weaker teams, that's where Arsenal usually rack up their wins. You've beaten Chelsea already this season, get your chins up.

We will rally and get some good runs going and finish above Everton but it will also deflect from we have lots of problems that will likely get even worse next summer.

On the field they can get back to winning. Wenger needs to be a little ruthless, maybe find a new leader. The squad is good enough to challenge for top 4 absolutely no question about that, just will need some changes.

Yes but we won't get rid of the key figures like the board, like Wenger so we won't likely challenge.

The way we are defending, we could do with a big Sa.....Ah fuck, forget it.

We need Bournemouth or Doncaster Rovers to hire Big Sam, he beats us and then Big Sam can use the post match interview to kindly explain to Wenger what is going wrong so Wenger can change it. Like last season

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

We had some shite years, manutd had some shite years with Moyes and van Gaal. Now it's your turn to taste it.

[theMilkman]

Arsenal: 92m take it or leave it

Monaco: Okay, we'll take it.

Arsenal: What?

Monaco: What?

Arsenal: What?

 

[4pool]

That doesnt make sense, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesnt matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XLIpFD5_Ls

[JD.]

Problem they are going to have is that Sanchez will be leaving in January. They might lose Ozil in January as well.

[The North Bank]

Problem they are going to have is that Sanchez will be leaving in January. They might lose Ozil in January as well.

We could refuse to sell them

[theMilkman]

We could refuse to sell them

Honestly think you're better off selling and reinvesting. Sanchez is obviously desperate to go, and apparently unpopular in the dressing room, not sure what Ozil would fetch but you can hardly say he's been a massive hit

[4pool]

Sanchez and Ozil won't be sold in January if Arsenal still are in with a shout to win the EL and qualify for the CL that way.

[JD.]

We could refuse to sell them

You sold Oxlade. You were clearly willing to sell Sanchez.

If Man City offer £30m in January for a lad with half a season left on his contract, you'll sell. Like you always do.

[ggcc14]

Honestly think you're better off selling and reinvesting. Sanchez is obviously desperate to go, and apparently unpopular in the dressing room, not sure what Ozil would fetch but you can hardly say he's been a massive hit

But Ozil is a great player as he shown for Real Madrid and Germany, he may strike up a partnership with Lacazette.. if Mesut looks shit it's because of the players around him.

[tonysleft]

But Ozil is a great player as he shown for Real Madrid and Germany, he may strike up a partnership with Lacazette.. if Mesut looks shit it's because of the players around him.

Shows the decline of Wenger. Wenger from 15 years ago would've been the dream manager for a player like Ozil.

[rafathegaffa83]

Shows the decline of Wenger. Wenger from 15 years ago would've been the dream manager for a player like Ozil.

Still is probably. Not many other clubs would be set-up to limit his defensive responsibilities

[Wingman]

You sold Oxlade. You were clearly willing to sell Sanchez.

If Man City offer £30m in January for a lad with half a season left on his contract, you'll sell. Like you always do.

Why would anyone pay £30m for potentially 30 games? May as well agree a pre contract and pick him up for free in July

[CowboyKangaroo]

Problem they are going to have is that Sanchez will be leaving in January. They might lose Ozil in January as well.

Its not in the players interest (or the clubs really) to move in January. Why not just sign a pre-contract with the club of your choice, stick at Arsenal for the rest of the season and take a lucrative signing bonus? If we were willing to give Milner a few mil, how much do you reckon Sanchez and Ozil will get? The club aren't going to get enough of a fee to really make it worth their while either.

[BeautifulGame91]

Why would anyone pay £30m for potentially 30 games? May as well agree a pre contract and pick him up for free in July

I think City will pay.

They will be fearful ,as a free signing he will have the pick of his clubs and may join PSG or Juve so will pay that to avoid that scenario.

[The North Bank]

Sanchez and Ozil wont be sold in January, it was either yesterday or never. Unless they go on strike till then.

[Wingman]

I think City will pay.

They will be fearful ,as a free signing he will have the pick of his clubs and may join PSG or Juve so will pay that to avoid that scenario.

He has his pick of clubs from Jan 1st

[Walk on, walk on]

He has his pick of clubs from Jan 1st

Exactly, if he is spiteful he could reject moving in January and play out the whole second half of the season, so that Arsenal don't get a single cent.

[BeautifulGame91]

He has his pick of clubs from Jan 1st

Yeah it's upto obviously.

But what am saying is City will definitely try to sign him again in January.

[ScottishGoon]

The main reason we didn't want to sell in the first place is we want to get back in the top 4 (Wenger will say challenge for the title but that's even more unrealistic). I believe the manner of the defeat against you guys blew Wengers thinking wide open though.

However, If the players knuckle down, & we're in with a shout in January, I can't see Arsenal sanction a sale, again unless they sign a similar quality replacement.

[The North Bank]

If we wanted to sell Sanchez, we would have, we were never in for Lemar, there was no 90m bid. All the shenanigans was to show Sanchez that we tried selling him but the clock beat us, he was never going to be sold, and will only go in January if our season is totally over, which is possible.

[Gili Gulu]

He has his pick of clubs from Jan 1st

He can only sign a pre-contract agreement with a foreign team from Jan 1st think?
He can't talk to another PL team without Arsenal's permission until July 1st, or at least he can't announce anything and risk a tapping-up storm.

If Sanchez or Ozil are not playing well and Arsenal are struggling, or even just in the running for 4th only there is going to be a long-running saga in the papers.

[PaulF]

He can only sign a pre-contract agreement with a foreign team from Jan 1st think?
He can't talk to another PL team without Arsenal's permission until July 1st, or at least he can't announce anything and risk a tapping-up storm.

If Sanchez or Ozil are not playing well and Arsenal are struggling, or even just in the running for 4th only there is going to be a long-running saga in the papers.

I know we've been bent over by the tapping up thing, but pretty sure that if City want to make him an offer that's good enough for him to go there, then the murky agent's underworld will make it happen.

[ScottishGoon]

Our season will be determined by not the quality of player we have  just now, but if Wenger can get them all playing with the correct attitude. The only way our season can survive was if Anfield was some sort of thunderstorm that he can use to his advantage to clear the air.

I can try and pull positives such as technicaly I think we're actually a slightly better squad than last season, that after the disaster of a start we are actually only a point behind Spurs and if we beat Bournemouth at home next week we'll only be a point behind the loser of the Man City vs Liverpool game, but it all means nothing really unless Wenger manages to get them all playing from the same sheet again. This will be his big challenge for the season.

[clinical]

So Lemar rejected Arsenal. Confirmed by Wenger. We really need to go after him in Jan. Long term Coutinho replacement.

[theMilkman]

But Ozil is a great player as he shown for Real Madrid and Germany, he may strike up a partnership with Lacazette.. if Mesut looks shit it's because of the players around him.

As others have pointed out, not many teams would be able or willing to let him forgo his defensive responsibilities the way arsenal do. I certainly don't see him being preferred to coutinho or lallana in our team. Don't see him getting into city, United's  or chelsea's first 11 either.

And bear in mind Real sold him THEN won 3 Cls.

[BOBSCOUSE]

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[oojason]

Ozil - "My advice to these former Gunners : stop talking and start supporting"

https://www.facebook.com/mesutoezil/posts/1865970026814894

^ That'll go down well - and no-one will surely retort with "stop talking and start playing" to him back, will they?

[lorenzo]

Ozil - "My advice to these former Gunners : stop talking and start supporting"

https://www.facebook.com/mesutoezil/posts/1865970026814894

^ That'll go down well - and no-one will surely retort with "stop talking and start playing" to him back, will they?

He's leaving nice, little digs and Legends and unsuccessful players but when he says he don't know the future that him saying bye.

[ScottishGoon]

Ozil - "My advice to these former Gunners : stop talking and start supporting"

https://www.facebook.com/mesutoezil/posts/1865970026814894

^ That'll go down well - and no-one will surely retort with "stop talking and start playing" to him back, will they?

I seen Squawka reply at the top with some stats since he joined. I know stats can be misleading but I still find it surprising because I can't remember the last time I can come out and say Ozil had a great game. 

[Gerry Attrick]

I seen Squawka reply at the top with some stats since he joined. I know stats can be misleading but I still find it surprising because I can't remember the last time I can come out and say Ozil had a great game.

Ozil is possibly the most underrated player in the Premier League. Across La Liga, Bundesliga and the Premier League he's posted double digit assists 5 times in his career and has 9 in another couple of seasons. The guy is an unbelievable player but if you listened to pundits you'd think he's a total liability that needs binning. We'll see how important he is when he leaves and you're struggling mightily to create a clear chance a game.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

That may be the case but he is no where to be seen in big matches

[zero zero]

That may be the case but he is no where to be seen in big matches

Hard to rate him when he's done his annual Anfield disappearing act.

[Gerry Attrick]

That may be the case but he is no where to be seen in big matches

He had an assist in a 2-2 draw with Man City last season and a goal and assist in a 3-0 win against Chelsea. Arsenal as a whole are shit against big sides and have been for years, yet he's the one that gets singled out the most.

[CrasherKid79]

Ozil is possibly the most underrated player in the Premier League. Across La Liga, Bundesliga and the Premier League he's posted double digit assists 5 times in his career and has 9 in another couple of seasons. The guy is an unbelievable player but if you listened to pundits you'd think he's a total liability that needs binning. We'll see how important he is when he leaves and you're struggling mightily to create a clear chance a game.

He's a waste of a shirt when they play away at a top 6 rival.

To me that's not good enough and I certainly wouldn't put up with a Liverpool player being the same

[ScottishGoon]

Ozil is possibly the most underrated player in the Premier League. Across La Liga, Bundesliga and the Premier League he's posted double digit assists 5 times in his career and has 9 in another couple of seasons. The guy is an unbelievable player but if you listened to pundits you'd think he's a total liability that needs binning. We'll see how important he is when he leaves and you're struggling mightily to create a clear chance a game.

It should be set up perfect for him this year. For the first time since he joined he's actually got a forward in front of him that has the actual combination of movement, pace and finishing ability. Of course, Wenger has to play him first though. With Sanchez still there if he's not in the huff, it's a potentially exciting forward line. Let's see how they do in the next half dozen or so games. They don't have any excuses not to play well.

[Gerry Attrick]

He's a waste of a shirt when they play away at a top 6 rival.

To me that's not good enough and I certainly wouldn't put up with a Liverpool player being the same

Name me an Arsenal player that isn't. Ozil had a pedigree of performing well on the biggest stages before he came to the Premier League, but now he's surrounded by lesser players he doesn't look as good, hardly a surprise. He's become a scapegoat.

[theMilkman]

That may be the case but he is no where to be seen in big matches

Indeed, most of my exposure to Arsenal games is from watching them play us or other big teams. I actually had to get on YouTube to be reminded what it looks like when he plays well...

[SerbianScouser]

He had an assist in a 2-2 draw with Man City last season and a goal and assist in a 3-0 win against Chelsea. Arsenal as a whole are shit against big sides and have been for years, yet he's the one that gets singled out the most.

One big reason why they're shit in big games is having an ultimate luxury player in the team who is anonymous in practically every big game they play. Like Gerrard said with him in the team they are a man down.