Author Topic: Youth and Under 23 Thread (Read 12343197 times)

RogerTheRed · « **Reply #98720 on:** January 23, 2019, 03:49:05 pm »

I have seen great bits of play from him and lovely passing and he is an intelligent player. My concern is his lack of physical strength and pace. As a result he sometimes has quiet spells, but is definitely right up there in ability terms and I hope he can make that count for him.

Suareznumber7 · « **Reply #98721 on:** January 23, 2019, 04:06:41 pm »

Quote from: Two-Headed Sex Beast on January 23, 2019, 03:00:15 pm

Looks like Liverpool have signed a 16 year old defender from Lyon. One to watch out for in the 18's. Let's hope he's as talented as Ki-Jana Hoever!

https://twitter.com/mohamedbouhafsi/status/1088085719275458560

Interesting. We clearly use advanced analytics when signing 1st team players. I wonder how much we use analytics when looking at youth players and how much is traditional scouting.

phil236849 · « **Reply #98722 on:** January 23, 2019, 04:22:03 pm »

Quote from: Suareznumber7 on January 23, 2019, 04:06:41 pm

Interesting. We clearly use advanced analytics when signing 1st team players. I wonder how much we use analytics when looking at youth players and how much is traditional scouting.

I think we signed Djimi Traore around this age and Houllier said he was potentially world class. This lad could be but there was a real fanfare when we got Ki-Jana

Nessy76 · « **Reply #98723 on:** January 23, 2019, 04:42:02 pm »

Quote from: phil236849 on January 23, 2019, 04:22:03 pm

I think we signed Djimi Traore around this age and Houllier said he was potentially world class. This lad could be but there was a real fanfare when we got Ki-Jana

Sadly, Houllier's record in that department was a bit disappointing.

Mizerooskie · « **Reply #98724 on:** January 23, 2019, 04:58:20 pm »

Quote from: Suareznumber7 on January 23, 2019, 04:06:41 pm

Interesting. We clearly use advanced analytics when signing 1st team players. I wonder how much we use analytics when looking at youth players and how much is traditional scouting.

I find it difficult to believe there's enough consistent data to really use analytics at the youth level.

Djimi Smicer34 · « **Reply #98725 on:** January 23, 2019, 05:27:32 pm »

Great write-up, very informative and some really good details.

I think Clarkson is having a really good season, think he’s been the pick of the bunch in midfield for the under-18’s so far - expected that to be Dixon-Bonner in truth but Clarkson kicked on impressively.

Might be worth you posting this in the academy thread too, posts like this would be great for people who don’t see much of the games but might be interested in the players coming through.

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #98726 on:** January 23, 2019, 07:22:53 pm »

I never really get to watch the U23s anymore, how has Tagseth been doing (if he has moved up to U23 level)? Last time I saw him playing was for Gerrards U18s and he stood out significantly every time I saw him play, looked a really intellgent player

Chris~ · « **Reply #98727 on:** January 23, 2019, 07:34:31 pm »

Quote from: RyanBabel19 on January 23, 2019, 07:22:53 pm

I never really get to watch the U23s anymore, how has Tagseth been doing (if he has moved up to U23 level)? Last time I saw him playing was for Gerrards U18s and he stood out significantly every time I saw him play, looked a really intellgent player

Barely played at all this season

HopefulRed · « **Reply #98728 on:** January 23, 2019, 07:55:29 pm »

Quote from: RyanBabel19 on January 23, 2019, 07:22:53 pm

I never really get to watch the U23s anymore, how has Tagseth been doing (if he has moved up to U23 level)? Last time I saw him playing was for Gerrards U18s and he stood out significantly every time I saw him play, looked a really intellgent player

Injuries, including one that means he’s out now

meady1981 · « **Reply #98729 on:** January 23, 2019, 08:09:05 pm »

Quote from: Dazzer23 on January 23, 2019, 12:24:09 pm

I used to work with Leighton's mother.

Although to be fair, I'm not sure that's adding much to the debate.

I’m listening..

K-Lo · « **Reply #98730 on:** January 23, 2019, 08:18:37 pm »

Excellent summary on Clarkson. Thanks.

JamesG L4 · « **Reply #98731 on:** January 23, 2019, 08:46:08 pm »

Quote from: Two-Headed Sex Beast on January 23, 2019, 03:03:26 pm

Great post OP.

He certainly does look promising, however you have to be really special to be that kind of player and make it at the top level. The odds are against you with the physical aspect being so important.

Looking forward to monitoring his progress.

As usernames go, this one did make me take a double take.

hesbighesred · « **Reply #98732 on:** January 24, 2019, 08:15:20 am »

Excellent OP, thanks. I'd love to see more of these if the fancy takes you, it's great to get an in depth look at some of our young prospects.

PhilV · « **Reply #98733 on:** January 24, 2019, 08:19:39 am »

Quote from: tubby on January 23, 2019, 03:09:51 pm

Gonna need a YouTube highlights package with shit music before I can get properly excited about a prospect, but he does sound promising.

OK Google - Play Despacito

Thanks OP for the post by the way, I have never seen this kid myself but always feel optimistic when I hear good stories from the Academy lot, fingers crossed for a bright future for this lad.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #98734 on:** January 24, 2019, 06:59:52 pm »

The team for tonight's International Cup against Swansea.

Liverpool Under-23s starting XI: George, Randall, Juanma, Masterson, Johnston, Whelan, Virtue, Chirivella, McAuley, Sharif, Markovic.

Subs: McKenzie-Lyle, Coyle, Christie-Davies, R. Williams, Duncan.

Djimi Smicer34 · « **Reply #98735 on:** January 24, 2019, 07:13:48 pm »

That’s the definition of a shop window team.

Hopefully a few of them take the opportunity tonight, the likes of Randall and Markovic really need get back to playing first-team football elsewhere.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #98736 on:** January 24, 2019, 07:16:59 pm »

1-0 Markovich scores a Glen McAuley assist.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #98737 on:** January 24, 2019, 07:17:29 pm »

Quote from: Djimi Smicer34 on January 24, 2019, 07:13:48 pm

That’s the definition of a shop window team.

Hopefully a few of them take the opportunity tonight, the likes of Randall and Markovic really need get back to playing first-team football elsewhere.

Markovic took his chance well to be fair.

LovelyCushionedHeader · « **Reply #98738 on:** January 24, 2019, 07:19:56 pm »

Think that Markovic kid has got a big future ahead of him.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #98739 on:** January 24, 2019, 07:37:02 pm »

Quote from: LovelyCushionedHeader on January 24, 2019, 07:19:56 pm

Think that Markovic kid has got a big future ahead of him.

He took the goal really well shown some nice touches, as has Sharif once more.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #98740 on:** January 24, 2019, 07:53:52 pm »

H/T 1-0. We've been unlucky had two shots off the line tonight.

Djimi Smicer34 · « **Reply #98741 on:** January 24, 2019, 07:56:57 pm »

Markovic and Sharif have looked bright, Masterson has made a couple of good blocks.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #98742 on:** January 24, 2019, 08:05:47 pm »

Quote from: Djimi Smicer34 on January 24, 2019, 07:56:57 pm

Markovic and Sharif have looked bright, Masterson has made a couple of good blocks.

Masterson always impresses has good positional sense. Sharif and Markovich have been the standouts. Randall should have scored before halftime.

Djimi Smicer34 · « **Reply #98743 on:** January 24, 2019, 08:20:11 pm »

Quote from: jillc on January 24, 2019, 08:05:47 pm

Masterson always impresses has good positional sense. Sharif and Markovich have been the standouts. Randall should have scored before halftime.

Really hope he gets himself a move this month, think he's got enough to have a good career in the football league.

Joe Rafferty went to Rochdale a couple of seasons ago, has done well there and now earned himself a move to Preston in the Championship. Hopefully Randall can do similar, he just needs regular football somewhere.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #98744 on:** January 24, 2019, 08:26:27 pm »

Quote from: Djimi Smicer34 on January 24, 2019, 08:20:11 pm

Really hope he gets himself a move this month, think he's got enough to have a good career in the football league.

Joe Rafferty went to Rochdale a couple of seasons ago, has done well there and now earned himself a move to Preston in the Championship. Hopefully Randall can do similar, he just needs regular football somewhere.

He has always had a really professional attitude Randall even when he was very young, it would be nice to see him get a good move. Swansea have upped the pressure, George has made a number of good saves in the secon half.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #98745 on:** January 24, 2019, 08:37:06 pm »

2-0 to Liverpool, Glenn McAuley the scorer but it was made by Sharif a brilliant run by the young lad, after a lot of Swansea pressure. Duncan on for Markovich, let's see what he can do.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #98746 on:** January 24, 2019, 08:50:04 pm »

Bobby Duncan is just full of running always has a smile on his face.

. Another great run by Sharif there. McAuley has played well tonight.

[new username under construction] · « **Reply #98747 on:** January 26, 2019, 09:07:23 am »

So the U18 game today is again only on LFCTV Go and not the TV. That doesn't make me want to sign up to LFCTV Go, that makes me want to cancel LFCTV for being assholes :/

gjr1 · « **Reply #98748 on:** January 26, 2019, 10:38:16 am »

Quote from: [new username under construction] on January 26, 2019, 09:07:23 am

So the U18 game today is again only on LFCTV Go and not the TV. That doesn't make me want to sign up to LFCTV Go, that makes me want to cancel LFCTV for being assholes :/

Is on mufc tv...

FlashGordon · « **Reply #98749 on:** January 26, 2019, 10:45:02 am »

Quote from: gjr1 on January 26, 2019, 10:38:16 am

Is on mufc tv...

Why would someone have a subscription to that

gjr1 · « **Reply #98750 on:** January 26, 2019, 10:50:28 am »

Quote from: Red85 on January 26, 2019, 10:45:02 am

Why would someone have a subscription to that

Comes with my package free... I was just checking out what’s on lfctv and mutv is the next channel:)

FlashGordon · « **Reply #98751 on:** January 26, 2019, 10:58:17 am »

Any streams knocking about?

ScubaSteve · « **Reply #98752 on:** January 26, 2019, 11:08:51 am »

Quote from: [new username under construction] on January 26, 2019, 09:07:23 am

So the U18 game today is again only on LFCTV Go and not the TV. That doesn't make me want to sign up to LFCTV Go, that makes me want to cancel LFCTV for being assholes :/

Definitely!! Just flicked over to watch it

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #98753 on:** January 26, 2019, 11:15:10 am »

Quote from: [new username under construction] on January 26, 2019, 09:07:23 am

So the U18 game today is again only on LFCTV Go and not the TV. That doesn't make me want to sign up to LFCTV Go, that makes me want to cancel LFCTV for being assholes :/

Agree completely. I saw it was a free month, signed on assuming it was a free trial (I know more fool me) and was then told the first month was free if I signed for a year, so scrubbed it.

I subscribe to LFCTV but Mrs P pays so won't be cancelling just yet.

rawcusk8 · « **Reply #98754 on:** January 26, 2019, 11:30:15 am »

Quote from: Red85 on January 26, 2019, 10:58:17 am

Any streams knocking about?

Anyone?

Yiannis · « **Reply #98755 on:** January 26, 2019, 11:39:59 am »

I'm on the free trial of LFCTV Go. Are all games in the u18's recorded pitch side?

Djimi Smicer34 · « **Reply #98756 on:** January 26, 2019, 12:10:20 pm »

The camera angle they're using is terrible but that's a lovely goal by Liverpool.

2-0, Duncan.

Djimi Smicer34 · « **Reply #98757 on:** January 26, 2019, 12:12:38 pm »

Standard red card in this fixture, Morgan Boyes. We're playing the last half an hour with 10.

And it's 2-1 from the resulting free-kick.

Lee1-6Liv · « **Reply #98758 on:** January 26, 2019, 12:12:55 pm »

Red card Boyes and Utd score from freekick.

KingKolo · « **Reply #98759 on:** January 26, 2019, 12:21:33 pm »

Flicked on the highlights of the most recent U23 game. Really surprised by some of the players turning out.

Matty Virtue, Juanma and Chirivella are into their 20s now. They're never going to play for Liverpool, in fact they'll probably never even be regulars for a top division club. As for Randall and Markovic, they're not even under 23!

The whole competition (the U23 league) seems like a massive waste of time. All of the lads playing in it would be better off playing lower league football in games that actually matter, and trying to create a proper career for themselves before it's too late.

Anyone who Klopp sees as having a slight chance of making the step up (Hoever, Jones, Camacho, Woodburn etc) are whipped straight up to train at Melwood, and even most of them probably won't go on to make much of an impact for the first team if we're realistic.

Nothing personal against any of these lads obviously, they're brilliant footballers with a chance to have careers in the game. But what is the fucking point of the U23 league?