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Re:Diouf definitely in talks...
« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2002, 05:36:37 pm »
So it's more of a case of him pissing you off than being bad for the side?

Personal oppinion but I couldn't give a flying fuck what he's like as long as he does the business.

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Re:Diouf definitely in talks...
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2002, 05:39:08 pm »
Talk about taking my words out of context of my general argument  ::)

And if you don't give a shit about my opinion, why bother replying?


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Re:Diouf definitely in talks...
« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2002, 05:40:09 pm »
Actually I said I couldn't give a fuck about his previous misdemeanours as long as he does the job.

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Re:Diouf definitely in talks...
« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2002, 05:44:40 pm »

You've seen him once, I've seen him hundreds of times so I don't need to justify my opinion, as it is based over a period of time. He's a good player, there's no doubt, but he's trouble. He's moody because he causes friction within a team. He's a moaner, and although sometimes this can be beneficial contant moaning (like Hasselbaink does) pisses me off.


a hundred games is a lot to have gone to during a year in lens, didnt know they played that many a season.

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Re:Diouf definitely in talks...
« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2002, 05:51:06 pm »
Well, he's played for Lens for 3 seasons, plus the African Nations Cup... 34 games in a French season... got to final of ANC...therefore technically I could have seen him 100 times, although I wouldn't be that pedantic..

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Re:Diouf definitely in talks...
« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2002, 05:52:08 pm »
From the Fiver in my mailbox when I got in this morning:

"Liverpool's attraction to El-Hadji Diouf has been reciprocated.
Minutes after Senegal's 1-0 win against France, he said: "I'm delighted to be joining Liverpool.
I want to become one of the best players in the world and I'm sure that with a great coach like Gerard Houllier I can do that.""
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Re:Diouf definitely in talks...
« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2002, 06:07:33 pm »
Like you say Si if Hadji Diouf makes any gripes, moans and indiscipline on/off the field. You can be sure that Le Boss will show him the exitt door before he says why!.

P.S. On a footnote aftwer watching the opening match of the 2002 World Cup,Diao outplayed Viera in midfield and that's some acheivement!. Also Diouf was impressive, worked really hard for his team, as well as his 1st touch was class.

At times he lost possession a bit easily and he could have passed to his team mates who were in a better postion. But he'll get better with Le Boss's tutorledge!  ;) 8)
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Re:Diouf definitely in talks...
« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2002, 06:47:15 pm »
BEWARE buying players who impress in major tournaments!!! Phil Babb. Kinell.

If GH wants him he will have already decided on the basis of scouting reports, not on a WC performance.

Today showed that he revels in the big occaision, whats he like away to boro on a wednesday night in February?

First time Ive seen him play (well, noticed him, as  watched the ANC but didnt pay attention to him) and he was very impressive in the first half, I must say.

Time wil tell.

PS: the Senegalese Cisse looked very good as well  :D


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Re:Diouf definitely in talks...
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2002, 06:49:09 pm »
He sure was Ste - Diao was outstanding!  :D
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Re:Diouf definitely in talks...
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2002, 07:49:55 pm »
2 Senegalese Dioufs, a French Cisse, a Senegalese Cisse, some linked to LFC, some not; I'm getting confused  ;D  ;)

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Re:Diouf definitely in talks...
« Reply #50 on: June 1, 2002, 01:08:38 am »
the official site really are at pains to point out that nothing has been agreed yet...

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N135214020531-1809.htm
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Re:Diouf definitely in talks...
« Reply #51 on: June 1, 2002, 05:40:04 pm »
But it's official now, the club and the player have confirmed it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/team_pages/senegal/newsid_2020000/2020547.stm

I think he will be a welcome addition to the team. I'm delighted he has signed; let's see what he can do for us now.

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Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #52 on: June 1, 2002, 05:47:48 pm »
Sorry for the repetition folks, but thought it was worth a new thread now that it's official.

The club and the player have confirmed it. Diouf signs 5 year contract.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/team_pages/senegal/newsid_2020000/2020547.stm

I think he will be a welcome addition to the team. I'm delighted he has signed. African Footballer of the Year  :o; that must be something; so he's the big striker GH has been talking about.

I didn't have enough time to see the WC opener, but I saw the goal several times, and how he contributed by confusing the French defence.

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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #53 on: June 1, 2002, 06:20:41 pm »
good thing they agreed fee BEFORE the world cup started.
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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #54 on: June 1, 2002, 06:25:37 pm »
yeah watching the game i was thinking that they should have signed him before the tournament started going to make a big impression not so sure about daio didnt impress me at all

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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #55 on: June 1, 2002, 06:27:35 pm »
Has it sad anywhere how mch we've paid?

All the reports i've seen are the same one wit a quote by him and a quote by someone at the club.

If he can produce what he did yesterday on a regular basis he'll be amazing.

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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #56 on: June 1, 2002, 06:41:58 pm »
Nothing so far on the fee.

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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #57 on: June 1, 2002, 06:58:22 pm »
Having only seen him a couple of times during the African Nations Cup and against France, I was wondering if anyone knows what his finishing is like?
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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #58 on: June 1, 2002, 07:30:28 pm »
Just learned that he was valued at £10 million by the Lens manager; so that would be the maximum we'd pay. So we could expect something around £8-9 million.

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Diouf definitely ...
« Reply #59 on: June 1, 2002, 10:42:57 pm »
from Senegal ;D
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Re:Diouf definitely ...
« Reply #60 on: June 1, 2002, 11:01:04 pm »
There arent already at least 2 topics on this are there?

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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #61 on: June 2, 2002, 12:10:27 am »
Had Sky Sports News on earlier, was scrolling across the bottom that the Lens manager has denied we have signed him, and that negotiations will continue after the 1st stage of the world cup. Looks like they want some more money.
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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #62 on: June 2, 2002, 02:04:19 pm »
I think that everything was agreed before the world cup but since friday lens have had a change of mind and are trying to screw more money out of LFC like Boro were trying to do.
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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #63 on: June 2, 2002, 02:22:22 pm »
they cant go back on their word......breach of contract...

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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #64 on: June 2, 2002, 03:01:27 pm »
yeah, definately sounds like they're after more money. Which they won't get!
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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #65 on: June 2, 2002, 04:12:53 pm »
Radio City yesterday said that we had him for £9.5 million, but the RC Lens website is denying that we have signed him  ???

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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #66 on: June 3, 2002, 02:23:44 pm »
It seems that Lens are denying it but Diouf is saying he will be a red come pre-season and has already signed a contract:

http://www.football365.com/All_News/Premiership_News/story_31984.shtml
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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #67 on: June 3, 2002, 07:37:11 pm »
It seems a bit mysterious, but GH is quoted on the official site site talking about Diouf and it sounds like he believes the deal has been done.

I must admit I was impressed by his performance against France, and am looking forward to seeing him at Anfield next season.
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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #68 on: June 3, 2002, 08:55:11 pm »
If Diouf himself has confirmed it and the club have as well, then there's no reason why he shouldn't come, Lens will not stand in his way but might delay the transaction like others have said here.

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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #69 on: June 4, 2002, 03:16:12 pm »
From LFC Online, we've pulled all the quotes together.

With each contradiction comes another scratch of the head, so many scratces infact that many a Reds' fan currently sports a Zidane like bald patch. So has he or hasn't he?


May

30th

Diouf's agent Stephane Canard tells L'Equipe: "Discussions are taking place. Everything's going well but nothing has been signed yet."

31st

Liverpool spokesman Ian Cotton says: "We have been in talks with both the player and his club but we are yet to reach an agreement."

Later that evening, after helping Senegal to an historic 1-0 over France, Diouf says: "I'm delighted to be joining Liverpool. I want to become one of the best players in the world and I'm sure that at Liverpool and with a great coach like Gerard Houllier I can do that."

June

1st

Lens deny that Liverpool have signed El-Hadji Diouf. A statement on the club's official site reads: "Contrary to the announcement made on Saturday, Lens would like to make it clear that El-Hadji Diouf has not been transferred to Liverpool, and no contract has been signed. The player's representatives and the two clubs agreed on Friday to continue discussions at the end of the first round of the World Cup. Knowing that replacing a player of his potential and ability would be complicated, the Lens president Gervais Martel will continue to think over the matter."

2nd

Diouf reiterates the fact that he'll be joining Liverpool, and that a deal has been agreed. He says: "I agreed a deal with Liverpool before the match against France. I wouldn't have minded staying in Lens but personally I want to play for a big club. What I want to say is that I have already signed and you can be sure that I will play for Liverpool next season."

Gerard Houllier admits he is excited at the signing (?) of El-Hadji Diouf. He says: "A star he may be, even at 21, after making such a contribution to the achievement of Lens but, to me, a real star is one who works for the team, rather than just hanging around the penalty area waiting for others to provide him with the ball, and that is very much the mark of Diouf. A lot was asked of him by Bruno Metsu. Senagal's French coach, who like Roger Lemerre is a friend of mine, got his tactics spot on. He did what you should do against France: 5-4-1, get bodies into midfield. So Diouf was alone up front. He showed not only the skill to keep the ball but a willingness to sacrifice himself for the team. In the modern game you need that sort of player. As for his speed, he illustrated that in making the goal, even though I felt he got past Frank Leboeuf a bit too easily. So what if the commentators felt Diouf got offside too much? In my opinion, that is a good fault. I prefer a front player who goes for it to one who is forever dropping deep, when you do that you tend to stifle the team. You can always teach a player not to get caught offside. What Diouf did was give the game length and got behind defenders. They couldn't cope with him. That is how he plays - with his foot permanently on the gas. He needs to learn to manage his energy. But that will come."

Diouf speaks for the second time of his move (?) to Liverpool. He says: "Coach Gerard Houllier has assured me that he wants me in the team. I spoke to him on the phone and liked the sound of what I heard. I wanted a move to a big club and preferably one with a French coach, although I am keen to do English lessons."




Bare in mind that Lens have already said they won't stand his way if he wants to leave. Diouf will almost certainly be a Liverpool player next year, although the fact that no fee has been announced leads me to believe there may be a 'gentlemans agreement' on the fee or something like that. It doesn't look as if everything has been completed, but that it's just a formality.








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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #70 on: June 4, 2002, 05:43:20 pm »
more on Diao and Diouf! Diao isn't arriving till January now it seems  ???

But Diouf is insistent he's signed a contract subject to a medical.

Report here -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/team_pages/senegal/newsid_2025000/2025353.stm
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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #71 on: June 4, 2002, 06:13:43 pm »
Interesting. If he has already signed the contract, could Lens still ask for more money?

If they can, or terms with Lens haven't been agreed yet, then they might be buying time after seeing him perform against France; his value has now increased, and other clubs might be interested; Lens could possibly be waiting till the end of the WC, or Senegal's exit, in order to re-negotiate a higher fee.

But it now looks certain that he will join. I'd like to see him perform that Senegalese-style dance around a red shirt everytime he scores.  That would be new to Anfield I guess :D

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Re:Diouf Definitely Signs Contract
« Reply #72 on: June 7, 2002, 08:31:37 am »
It will be interesting to see how they play or what sort of dictations they are given by Le Boss. I think, watching how they have fared at the world cup so far that a bit of creative flair will be good news for our midfield, sort of give it an all round ability in terms of technical differences between players. That's if and when they do come/go to Anfield.

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« Reply #73 on: June 8, 2002, 03:09:58 am »
Diouf has the ability, and with GH's teaching can only get better.  GH doesnt shell out 10 mill on anyone.

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« Reply #74 on: June 8, 2002, 05:11:24 am »
True.

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Thoughts on the Diouf Dive?
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2002, 02:59:25 pm »
Nothing short of disgraceful really, I really fail to see why good players like him {Hopefully} and others like Rivaldo need to cheat.

I'm hoping its a one off because if a player gets a reputation for diving it wouldn't be an easy one to shrug off.


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Re:Thoughts on the Diouf Dive?
« Reply #76 on: June 11, 2002, 03:05:26 pm »
Yeah it was bad. Atleast the Argentinian defender touched Michael Owen as he dived to the ground. Ofcourse the Argetine shouldn't have touched him and Mike just used his 'experience'.

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Re:Thoughts on the Diouf Dive?
« Reply #77 on: June 11, 2002, 03:34:31 pm »
it is pretty sickening, but if Diouf wins us points next season by diving I don't want him to get all "Robbie Fowler, Highbury '97" about it.

Diving is pretty inexcusable in any form, but i've always thought that diving for a free-kick or a penno is not as bad as diving (as Rivaldo did) purely to get a fellow pro sent off.

Wouldn't condone it though.  Sort it oud El Hadj.

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Re:Thoughts on the Diouf Dive?
« Reply #78 on: June 11, 2002, 03:45:53 pm »
What ya all on about - clearly got hacked down. :wave

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Re:Thoughts on the Diouf Dive?
« Reply #79 on: June 11, 2002, 03:54:01 pm »
We'll knock it out of him like with Emmy.