Topic: FAC:ManU 4 vs 3 Liv McT 10’ Mac 44’ Salah 45+2’ Antony 87’ Elliot 105’ Rash 113’

[Peabee]

I don't think I've felt this low about football since that 2-1 defeat to them in 1999. Going to take me a long time to get over that.

[n00bert]

Didn't want to lose but having lost, not really feeling particularly upset by it. Like a overwhelming feeling of 'meh-ness'.

Only thing annoying really is that the legendary quad is off, which is a shame and that we'll have to deal with some smug mancs for a bit, but otherwise it was all a bit *shrugs*.

My Manc supporting mate called it an epic - my view was that the scoreline was epic, but the football sure as fuck wasn't. They were decent for the first 20 minutes, but once we found our feet and rhythm we were obviously so much better than they were. Like, there was a literal gulf in class I thought between the two teams and yet, as it transpired, was not enough to do these c*nts.


If anything, I thought we just looked tired, which is in and of itself not suprising given the number of games we've played. Endo in particular looked tired, and he's never looked leggy before.

Do them on the 7th of April and this will be but a memory.

[smicer07]

Thanks.

[jckliew]

I would be more/very disappointed if we lost the Premier League.
The Carabao and FA cup has lost its luster a while back now.
My No.1 wish is for the Premier League title.

[Clint Eastwood]

I don't think I've felt this low about football since that 2-1 defeat to them in 1999. Going to take me a long time to get over that.

It's crazy how different our feelings are about this.

You've experienced Athens, Kiev, Paris. Losing the league title by a point on the final day on two occasions. The Hodgson era. This was an FA Cup quarter final loss in the midst of a season where we're challenging for a title, are favourites for the Europa League and have already had our day at Wembley winning the League Cup. Not ideal giving United - what will be - their highlight of the season at our expense, but it's not like the FA Cup will define our season.

I'm pretty rattled by the tragedy chanting, and the videos surfacing of United fans doing the usual Hillsborough imitations, but I'm over the result already. Bigger fish to fry.

[The Final Third]

I don't think we deserved anything out of that. We seemed mentally checked out and our performance was error-strewn. To their credit (euughh!) United never gave up - I don't think they were jammy and the xG bears that out:

HT: Man Utd (1.86) 1-2 (1.19) Liverpool

After 90 minutes: Man Utd (3.13) 2-2 (1.93) Liverpool

After Extra Time: Man Utd (4.25) 4-3 (2.18) Liverpool


All the same, hate losing to these but we've got bigger fish to fry and with the upcoming recovery period hopefully we have enough fuel to fire us home.

[Avens]

It's crazy how different our feelings are about this.

You've experienced Athens, Kiev, Paris. Losing the league title by a point on the final day on two occasions. The Hodgson era. This was an FA Cup quarter final loss in the midst of a season where we're challenging for a title, are favourites for the Europa League and have already had our day at Wembley winning the League Cup. Not ideal giving United - what will be - their highlight of the season at our expense, but it's not like the FA Cup will define our season.

I'm pretty rattled by the tragedy chanting, and the videos surfacing of United fans doing the usual Hillsborough imitations, but I'm over the result already. Bigger fish to fry.

Yep, it's really strange. This is not an important game relative to the rest of our season, let alone in our lifetimes. Of course we'd have preferred to have won, but I think most of us would be happier with 3 points in our next league game than we would have been with progressing in the Cup.

[whtwht]

Just got back. Absolutely gutting but if we win the league, this wont hurt one bit and today was a valuable lesson in being ruthless when you’re in control.

The game was won in the second half, they had almost given up. But we spurned countless 2 on 1s, 3 on 2s and on one occasion a 5 on 2. This isn’t the first time either. Had several against City last week and home to Arsenal. It’s as if they’re not sure how to fashion the opportunity and it’s something they need to work on as there are some easy goals to be had.

Our corner routines are strangely toothless too. Had a bunch today and against City but Robbo’s delivery was too slow and high and I can’t recall a decent header on goal. Used to be a strength of ours.

I don’t mention either to be negative rather I think they are two areas where we can achieve some material gains in the crucial games to come.

PS Their finishing was insanely good, Macheda levels of spawn. Just wasn’t our day.

I'm hearing an 18 year old bossed our midfield. 

[Lofty Ambitions]

Well that was a bit shite. I guess you can't win without kids. In League cup final, we had the courage to have fresh legs for the extra time. Here we did not.

Onward and forward.

[RedSamba]

we better beat that shower of shite in the prem

[Son of Spion]

Didn't want to lose but having lost, not really feeling particularly upset by it. Like a overwhelming feeling of 'meh-ness'.

Only thing annoying really is that the legendary quad is off, which is a shame and that we'll have to deal with some smug mancs for a bit, but otherwise it was all a bit *shrugs*.

My Manc supporting mate called it an epic - my view was that the scoreline was epic, but the football sure as fuck wasn't. They were decent for the first 20 minutes, but once we found our feet and rhythm we were obviously so much better than they were. Like, there was a literal gulf in class I thought between the two teams and yet, as it transpired, was not enough to do these c*nts.


If anything, I thought we just looked tired, which is in and of itself not suprising given the number of games we've played. Endo in particular looked tired, and he's never looked leggy before.

Do them on the 7th of April and this will be but a memory.

I may be in a minority of one, I don't know, but 'the quad' never crossed my mind. It's little more than a pressure-inducing media construction. I don't really see it as now gone, because I never for a moment thought it was actually on. To me, talk of a 'quad' with months of a very tight season to go, were just fanciful rubbish.

[spider-neil]

Hopefully, it's lessons learned for the league game. And hopefully we have more first team players back.

[ValiantInstance]

Not a wise idea to post immediately after the game. I'm still at a loss over the unneccessary nature of it. I'm struggling to think of any time that's happened since Klopp arrived. The Bournemouth 4-3?

We were over the hills and far away and snatched defeat from the jaws of vicotry. And against that rabble singing their vile shit for 90 minutes.

[spider-neil]

The most annoying thing about the result is Manu are fucking shit. At least when City turn you over they are very good side.

[Caston]

The most annoying thing about the result is Manu are fucking shit. At least when City turn you over they are very good side.

Need to be more ruthless at times. Second half there was a good 30 mins where they had pretty much given up and a 3rd goal would have killed the game off. But we messed up time and time again and let the worst player on the pitch score a flukey goal. We then managed to go ahead again in extra time but then made silly mistakes and game management was non existent.

[AndyMuller]

We need to start being more clinical when we are on the attack like the 5v2.

Time and time again we arse around with the ball in the oppositions box instead of having a pop.

[6BigCups]

Around the 60 minute mark the gulf in class was completely obvious. We appeared complacent in that the players were aware of this, playing it around like a training session with no urgency to put the game to bed. One too many stupid, tired mistakes and too easily countered. You know it’s not your day when the human fidget spinner scores against you ffs.

[HardworkDedication]

I've read a couple of posts saying we were fatigued. This result had nothing to do with fatigue. Non whatsoever. It's down to application. We were far too arrogant in the 2nd half and it cost us. We got what we deserved. I was fuming in the 2nd half the way we were so casual. We were in total control but thought the game was won despite only leading 2-1. No matter how poor we think the opposition are, in these moments you kill the friggin game instead of trying to over do it with extra passes or fancy skills.

I am also not interested in reading about Man Utd's XG being better than ours. It's about the eye test. Any sane person who knows about football will see that we lost this game ourselves by being way too casual. There were moments when the camera panned to Klopp, and you could see how frustrated he was getting at the unnecessary extra passes and bad decision making in the final 3rd.

Play like this again in the league against them when leading and we will be on the end of another bad result.

[Red_Mist]

I may be in a minority of one, I don't know, but 'the quad' never crossed my mind. It's little more than a pressure-inducing media construction. I don't really see it as now gone, because I never for a moment thought it was actually on. To me, talk of a 'quad' with months of a very tight season to go, were just fanciful rubbish.

Agreed. Goes against everything the old boot room philosophy taught us. One game at a time. The next one is Brighton at home and it’s a FAR bigger game than yesterday.

[spider-neil]

Need to be more ruthless at times. Second half there was a good 30 mins where they had pretty much given up and a 3rd goal would have killed the game off. But we messed up time and time again and let the worst player on the pitch score a flukey goal. We then managed to go ahead again in extra time but then made silly mistakes and game management was non existent.

Final minute of extra time and everyone goes up the corner. It worked against Forest but after two halves of extra time it may have have been better to hold a couple back but hindsight is 20/20.

[Red_Mist]

I've read a couple of posts saying we were fatigued. This result had nothing to do with fatigue. Non whatsoever.

Are you sure about that? Look at the games we’ve had and the injuries we’ve been coming back from. Not trying to make excuses, you’re right we were far too casual and complacent (not having arrogant btw, sorry but not this team, we owe them that), but we looked gassed, and it’s understandable.

[Henry Chinaski]

The most annoying thing about the result is Manu are fucking shit. At least when City turn you over they are very good side.

Just that. Although I thought they were the most eager of the sides. It just never felt like this game was going to be ours, especially when we didn't turn that second half dominance into goals. In the end, we looked knackered.   

[Red_Mist]

I don't think I've felt this low about football since that 2-1 defeat to them in 1999. Going to take me a long time to get over that.

Just get your head back together for the next game, because if you think yesterday was more important than Brighton at Anfield then you’ve got your bills on the wrong way round.

[Caston]

Extra time it showed the amounts of minutes we have played this season and it finally caught up to us.

Glad this quadruple talk is done now as it adds unnecessary pressure. Won 1 cup this season and a good chance to add 1 or 2 more.

Hopefully we have a few back from injury by our next league game and we can make 1 final push. The boys have done incredibly well this season so let’s get behind them for the final 10-15 games.

[WorldChampions]

Unfortunately much like the City game we didn't take our chances to win the game. Regardless of the opposition quality, if you don't put the game to bed they always have a punchers chance.

[killer-heels]

I may be in a minority of one, I don't know, but 'the quad' never crossed my mind. It's little more than a pressure-inducing media construction. I don't really see it as now gone, because I never for a moment thought it was actually on. To me, talk of a 'quad' with months of a very tight season to go, were just fanciful rubbish.

Yeah its fucking stupid. Its insane to even consider winning 4 trophies in one season and we saw the effect it had on the team in 21/22. That game against Madrid goes a different way if we have more energy and the following season we fell off a cliff as a result.

The trophies are great but there is only one that really, truly matters this season and that is the league. Everything else is a nice to have.

[Red_Mist]

It just never felt like this game was going to be ours

I felt the opposite. Even in that first half at 1-0 I wasn’t worried. Then for 90% of that second half, they looked like they’d given up. I think it fooled us into thinking it was over somehow! They were utterly demoralised and dejected. It was just too easy. Our ball. Like taking sweets off a baby…..except we never scoffed them, casually left them on the side and the baby grabbed them back and it was difficult from that point on.

[spider-neil]

I'm already over this game. Just focus on getting players fit again and Brighton. This international break has actually come at a good time.

[Chris~]

Extra time it showed the amounts of minutes we have played this season and it finally caught up to us.

Glad this quadruple talk is done now as it adds unnecessary pressure. Won 1 cup this season and a good chance to add 1 or 2 more.

Hopefully we have a few back from injury by our next league game and we can make 1 final push. The boys have done incredibly well this season so let’s get behind them for the final 10-15 games.

I don't buy that as an excuse/reason for a lot of the players on the pitch in extra time. Fatigue for some like Nunez probably more tired with just playing nearly 2 hours fair enough, but he has played less total minutes than the likes of Rashford, Garnacho and Fernandes for example. We've played a lot of games but rotated a lot (not always through choice) and so only really Van Dijk has probably played a lot of minutes. We played it badly, it happens. We've had plenty of these kind of end to end games under Klopp, a lot of the time we've come out on top, yesterday we didn't.

[Circa1892]

I may be in a minority of one, I don't know, but 'the quad' never crossed my mind. It's little more than a pressure-inducing media construction. I don't really see it as now gone, because I never for a moment thought it was actually on. To me, talk of a 'quad' with months of a very tight season to go, were just fanciful rubbish.

Yeah - we’re nowhere near good enough for a start (yes we’ve done really well - but we’re not even close to our 2018-2020 side, and I don’t think we come close to our 2021-22 side). I can see us winning the league maybe - but the “quad” involves pipping City twice and I just can’t see it.

[meady1981]

Seems a testament to our position that people just can't compute us actually losing a game. And a difficult tie to Man Utd in a cup match at Old Trafford. And with all the problems we've overcome in the last couple of months.

The team were naive and complacent? Talk of 'they're shite' and 'we'll batter them' is pretty naive and complacent if you ask me. They often beat us when they were shite in the 80's and we often beat them when we were shite in the 90's/2000's. It's not a normal fixture. They still have enough quality to turn it on. Seems the two thrashings have made a lot of people forget that.

Interestingly, Klopp didn't come out and call his team naive & complacent, or bemoan the loss of Alisson, the speed of Gakpo, the breakdown of a 5v2 or the loading of a box in the last corner of the game (you know, the last nervy corner that we've loaded the box and scored form several times). He knows they gave what they could and it just didn't work out this time.

It's a shame, but shit happens. And thank fuck I don't have to hear the word 'quad' for another year. I want the league for Klopp and us, everything else is a bonus.

[Circa1892]

we better beat that shower of shite in the prem

After the behaviour of their disgusting, radicalised, fanbase only another 5-0 would do.

[Garlic Red]

I don't buy that as an excuse/reason for a lot of the players on the pitch in extra time. Fatigue for some like Nunez probably more tired with just playing nearly 2 hours fair enough, but he has played less total minutes than the likes of Rashford, Garnacho and Fernandes for example. We've played a lot of games but rotated a lot (not always through choice) and so only really Van Dijk has probably played a lot of minutes. We played it badly, it happens. We've had plenty of these kind of end to end games under Klopp, a lot of the time we've come out on top, yesterday we didn't.

They said on ITV this was our 18th game of the calendar year, it was United’s 12th. That’s 50% more games. Whether it works out as more minutes or not, it’s more preparation, more travel, more mental fatigue and tons more pressure to perform.

Being at home was the big advantage for them yesterday. We can’t gas Anfield up like we do for picking the team up when we look flat and not expect them to have a similar type of lift when their season’s on the line against their biggest rivals.

For me, we did look knackered, not just physically, but we looked like we’d lost our control and ability to execute our tactics/gameplan. We just started pumping long balls up for Maguire to head, it’s literally his bread and butter, with very little in terms of players looking to pick up second balls. I thought all of our full backs were pretty poor going both ways and United exploited that.

[Caston]

I don't buy that as an excuse/reason for a lot of the players on the pitch in extra time. Fatigue for some like Nunez probably more tired with just playing nearly 2 hours fair enough, but he has played less total minutes than the likes of Rashford, Garnacho and Fernandes for example. We've played a lot of games but rotated a lot (not always through choice) and so only really Van Dijk has probably played a lot of minutes. We played it badly, it happens. We've had plenty of these kind of end to end games under Klopp, a lot of the time we've come out on top, yesterday we didn't.

Not an excuse but it’s a valid point. We’ve been fighting on 4 fronts, with constant intensive games. Players dropping in and out with injury etc. All we can do is accept the result and go again.

[Red_Mist]

I don't buy that as an excuse/reason for a lot of the players on the pitch in extra time. Fatigue for some like Nunez probably more tired with just playing nearly 2 hours fair enough, but he has played less total minutes than the likes of Rashford, Garnacho and Fernandes for example. We've played a lot of games but rotated a lot (not always through choice) and so only really Van Dijk has probably played a lot of minutes. We played it badly, it happens. We've had plenty of these kind of end to end games under Klopp, a lot of the time we've come out on top, yesterday we didn't.

But if you’re talking about the players on the pitch in extra time, then look at our back four. How often have they played together? They’re all great players but three of them don’t play if Matip, Trent, Ibou are fit, or if Robbo isn’t coming back after a lay off, or Joe hasn’t run himself into the ground. Injuries mean more fatigue and more changes, and we’ve had a dozen players out as of very recently, 9 or 10 of them first team starters. This, combined with the sheer number of games played, will inevitably affect us and I think it showed in extra time yesterday.

Time to reset and get ready for the run in. Get the international break out the way, hopefully get them all back in one piece (and keep any with even the slightest issue at home please!) and then bring it on. Yesterday will soon be forgotten.

[Qston]

That result guarantees one thing and that is when we play them in the league in a few weeks, that will not be allowed to happen again

[Nick110581]

Frustrating result.

Was a bonkers game of football in all honesty. We should have finished them off but got sloppy.

[damomad]

United got fortunate with the draw and which round it’s in. Most other seasons we’d be taking them back to Anfield for a replay. Could be a blessing that didn’t happen with the fixtures coming up.

Still pretty gutted about this one. Maybe it’s that losing has become such an abnormal event this season. Definitely the manner of it anyway, had it finished 1-0 it would be easier to blow off. Gave me real flashbacks of Solskear doing us in 99. Seemed like the norm back then at OT.

There’s a lot to be said for this team, going ahead twice at OT, taking the twats to ET and almost penalties, us still missing 4/5 starters. Not to mention Elliott’s one off the post, absolute bedlam if that goes in.

All in all, a sore one that may take another day to fully digest. Bigger picture though, if you had said this season would be turning out the way it has at the start, I’d take it all day long.

[TSC]

I don't buy that as an excuse/reason for a lot of the players on the pitch in extra time. Fatigue for some like Nunez probably more tired with just playing nearly 2 hours fair enough, but he has played less total minutes than the likes of Rashford, Garnacho and Fernandes for example. We've played a lot of games but rotated a lot (not always through choice) and so only really Van Dijk has probably played a lot of minutes. We played it badly, it happens. We've had plenty of these kind of end to end games under Klopp, a lot of the time we've come out on top, yesterday we didn't.

Agreed.  The game v Prague on Thu was like a training game anyway.  Just a few too many players off the pace yesterday esp with poor decision making up top when Utd was begging to be put to bed in second half. 

Then a couple of basic mistakes to give UTD their last 2 goals.

[gazzalfc]

If there is going to be one game we lose between now and the end of the season then this was going to be close to the top of the list.

League is all important, European games next and the FA cup at the bottom.

Let this one hurt for a bit but there is a league still to be won and players coming back. That's the focus