Topic: 7he Manches7er Uni7ed 7hread - NO GREENWOOD/ANTONY*

[Elmo!]

Old Trafford now has four stands.

The Mr. Ferguson stand,  The Sir Bobby Charlton stand, The Deep End and The Shallow End.

The players have had to be reminded in training, no diving in the shallow end.

[rob1966]

That's ratpiss.. Yeah... one gets the feeling that roof may collapse (God forbid) at any moment.
If there are rats, they're chewing through everything, AND, if they don't care about the rats, it means there's a lot of rust and rot. That can never be safe.
Does the Prem/FA regularly inspect stadia? Whose job is it?

There's rats all over the place around there (and I'm not talking about the residents of Ordsall, Salford and Eccles ). You've got the wharf and the Quays, the canal running past the ground, the train line, loads of food waste after games, perfect for breeding millions of them.

Used to work in an office overlooking the place and the rust all over the roof trusses could be clearly seen, they swapped loads of them out about 2019 iirc, I remember the cranes being there and the workmen on the roof.. The outside has been painted recently, looked shabby as fuck not long ago.

[Musketeer Gripweed]

The players have had to be reminded in training, no diving in the shallow end.

Wait until the water running down the stands changes colour, the dirty buggers.

[PaulF]

I am quite sad he's cancelled player of the season. That could  have been funny.

[mattD]

That lot have a water feature in their stadium, why can’t we have one?

#FSG Out

[afc tukrish]

I am quite sad he's cancelled player of the season. That could  have been funny.

He thought it was a lot of water under the bridge, perhaps...

[stoa]

I am quite sad he's cancelled player of the season. That could  have been funny.

Just imagine, if it had been someone they sold in January...

[moondog]

4th tallest waterfall in England apparently.

[stewil007]

4th tallest waterfall in England apparently.

are you sure its not the 6th?

[Hestoic]

This guy has zero self awareness.

[rafathegaffa83]

All rivalry aside, this cannot be safe. If that stadium really is falling apart, there will be dodgy wiring getting exposed. Surely, at some point, their safety license needs to be looked at?

Ken Early pointed out the leaking roof predates the Glazers. He said he attended a match at Old Trafford in January 2004 and the roof was leaking then. It's inexcusable for one of the richest teams on the planet to not have done corrective work for more than two decades to fix it

[The North Bank]

Varane is leaving in the summer



Didnt know he was still there

[So… Howard Philips]

See Burnham is still trying his best to get public money to support tax dodging, strike breaking Ratcliffe’s Old Trafford rebuild.

How about getting some houses built in stead?

[DangerScouse]

Surely the self professed "biggest club in the world" (snigger) shouldn't be reliant on tax payers money to assist with stadium costs?

[Peabee]

Surely the self professed "biggest club in the world" (snigger) shouldn't be reliant on tax payers money to assist with stadium costs?

Billionaires have no shame begging for money. They abhor socialism because the money benefits the many not the few billionaires. Ratcliffe is getting hard about public funding as it would immediately increase the value of his 25% stake. But I bet he calls people on benefits, living hand to mouth, scroungers.

[Mister Flip Flop]

Morally repulsive they are looking for taxpayer money to build a stadium when they have that high a revenue.

[Wool]

After Thomas Frank if Ten Hag gets sacked apparently.

[moondog]

Morally repulsive they are looking for taxpayer money to build a stadium when they have that high a revenue.

Shame on any politicians enabling this billionaire to claim public money for building a new vanity dome.

[rafathegaffa83]

After Thomas Frank if Ten Hag gets sacked apparently.

We're in an era in which data and long-term planning are going to influence decision making. I'd have thought flavour of the month Amorim would have been a lead candidate, but going after Frank would go very much against the grain of their recent hirings. When you consider Bayern Munich are struggling to hire anyone and Barcelona pretty much welcomed Xavi coming back, I think it's safe to say the era of big name, iconic managers might be waning.

[Yorkykopite]

What a fucking shower.

[jillcwhomever]

We're in an era in which data and long-term planning are going to influence decision making. I'd have thought flavour of the month Amorim would have been a lead candidate, but going after Frank would go very much against the grain of their recent hirings. When you consider Bayern Munich are struggling to hire anyone and Barcelona pretty much welcomed Xavi coming back, I think it's safe to say the era of big name, iconic managers might be waning.

I actually think it will perhaps make football more interesting as it's going to be about up and coming managers rather than the old school type of managers. Who are going to be the next big things? I really think once Guardiola goes, City will find it a lot more challenging overall.

[Garlic Red]

After Thomas Frank if Ten Hag gets sacked apparently.

Good manager but I said when we were linked with him that he’d divide the fan base from the off, simply for being such a known quantity and a lot of fans having almost no ability to understand a decision if it doesn’t reek of being the move of a big club. He would struggle to win fans over there and I imagine it’ll be similar at boardroom level. He’d stand just as much a chance of succeeding than any of their other post-Taggart hires, I’d be amazed if they’d give him the type of backing he’d require to fix the future there.

[rafathegaffa83]

I actually think it will perhaps make football more interesting as it's going to be about up and coming managers rather than the old school type of managers. Who are going to be the next big things? I really think once Guardiola goes, City will find it a lot more challenging overall.

Yeah once Guardiola and Ancelotti go, it will be interesting to see how things develop without an iconic old guard

[the_red_pill]

Sir Jimbo has cancelled their end of season player of the season awards and party.

That’ll build up the esprit d’corps for next season.  Call them c*nts, treat them like dirt and they’ll play for you.  It’s the same mentality that makes Everton fans want Drunken back as manager

Beatings will continue...

[Libertine]

Manchester United defender Raphael Varane will leave the club when his contract runs out at the end of the season.

The 31-year-old joined from Real Madrid in July 2021 for an initial fee of about £34m and has made 93 appearances.

The former France international helped United win the League Cup in 2023 when manager Erik ten Hag's side beat Newcastle United in the final.

"Everybody at United thanks Rapha for his service and wishes him well for the future," said a United statement.

Varane won three La Liga titles and four Champions League trophies in his time at Real Madrid before joining United under then-manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

He won the World Cup with France in 2018 before retiring from international football in February 2023.

Safe to say this was a career of two halves....

[the_red_pill]

Good manager but I said when we were linked with him that he’d divide the fan base from the off, simply for being such a known quantity and a lot of fans having almost no ability to understand a decision if it doesn’t reek of being the move of a big club. He would struggle to win fans over there and I imagine it’ll be similar at boardroom level. He’d stand just as much a chance of succeeding than any of their other post-Taggart hires, I’d be amazed if they’d give him the type of backing he’d require to fix the future there.

Personally? I hope they don't go for him.

[HomesickRed]

Safe to say this was a career of two halves....

Retired from football earning an estimated £51m after costing Man Utd around £42m. That's roughly £1m per game for each of his 93 appearances.
Casemiro so far £60m plus £20m salary for the last two years is roughly £1.2m for each of his 81 appearances.

No wonder they can't afford to fix the roof! 

[Kopenhagen]

After Thomas Frank if Ten Hag gets sacked apparently.

Won't be many players queuing up to play for him, meaning they'll continue to pay over the odds on wages to attract talent.

Their prat fans won't stand for the "biggest club in the world" signing players like Bryan Mbeumo.

[BobPaisley3]

What a fucking shower.

Was worse than that, didn’t stop dripping.

[thaddeus]

Retired from football earning an estimated £51m after costing Man Utd around £42m. That's roughly £1m per game for each of his 93 appearances.
Casemiro so far £60m plus £20m salary for the last two years is roughly £1.2m for each of his 81 appearances.

No wonder they can't afford to fix the roof! 

Undeniably a lot of money wasted but I think Varane was their best defender - he covered for the glaring defects in both Maguire and Martinez.  Arguably his motivation dropped a bit after he retired from international football and he had no escape from the turgid but financially enriching life of a Man U player seeing out his contract.

[Kopenhagen]

Tap in reporting that KSA want to bail them out and sign Casemiro’s corpse.

[So… Howard Philips]

What a fucking shower.

I read that in Terry-Thomas voice.

[Statto Red]

What a fucking shower.

Wha the stadium.

[Garlic Red]

Personally? I hope they don't go for him.

I agree to a degree.

I think he’s a good manager, he knows the league, he knows their problems, he would potentially fit well under their new all-conquering structure that I imagine wants to become more data-led. He ticks a lot of boxes for what they need but I can’t help but feel their fans won’t give him a chance and I can’t really blame them, to be honest. They’re consistently told they’re this massive institution, their club’s this valuable, their brand’s the biggest etc and Frank is a huge deviation from that. It’s a mistake they’ve continued to make after Ferguson and Frank would be the first time they’ve tried to make a decision using their brains and not with their ego, which may turn out to be a smart move that actually plays out. It’s a very tall order though, they’re fucked and need someone that can deal with egos at every level of the club. As soon as things go wrong the doubters will be out en masse.

[Mighty_Red]

Apparently they have 'convinced' Fernandes to stay, sounds like he'll be getting a fat new contract that will take him at least 2 years after his legs have gone.

[Yorkykopite]

I read that in Terry-Thomas voice.

It was intended for a Michael Fish voice, but Terry-Thomas is an excellent suggestion. I tried it too. It works!

[Hazell]

Apparently they have 'convinced' Fernandes to stay, sounds like he'll be getting a fat new contract that will take him at least 2 years after his legs have gone.

I thought they were complaining about Old Trafford being rat infested?

[slaphead]

Apparently they have 'convinced' Fernandes to stay, sounds like he'll be getting a fat new contract that will take him at least 2 years after his legs have gone.

He is the worst captain of any team in the league. Doesn't want to know when the going gets tough. Crys off tough games. Biggest moaner in the game. Brilliant news !

[smutchin]

I agree to a degree.

I think he’s a good manager, he knows the league, he knows their problems, he would potentially fit well under their new all-conquering structure that I imagine wants to become more data-led. He ticks a lot of boxes for what they need but I can’t help but feel their fans won’t give him a chance and I can’t really blame them, to be honest. They’re consistently told they’re this massive institution, their club’s this valuable, their brand’s the biggest etc and Frank is a huge deviation from that. It’s a mistake they’ve continued to make after Ferguson and Frank would be the first time they’ve tried to make a decision using their brains and not with their ego, which may turn out to be a smart move that actually plays out. It’s a very tall order though, they’re fucked and need someone that can deal with egos at every level of the club. As soon as things go wrong the doubters will be out en masse.

Surely all this is exactly why we hope they don’t go for him? It would be much more amusing for us if they went for Southgate. Keep the circus going for a few years longer, please. It’s funny.

[Garlic Red]

Surely all this is exactly why we hope they don’t go for him? It would be much more amusing for us if they went for Southgate. Keep the circus going for a few years longer, please. It’s funny.

Yeah I’m not jumping through hoops if they get him, but I think the instant division from their fans will make it a massive task for him. A bit like Rodgers here, loads didn’t think he was good enough from the off and couldn’t wait for him to fuck off so we could get a proper manager in. Regardless of who’s in charge of their footballing operation, there will be people at that club that don’t think he’s good enough and he’s not worthy of being their manager. If Wilcox, Ashworth etc don’t nail this one, the division will start again at boardroom level and they’ll carry on unravelling and making mistakes.

I think he’s a good manager but he’s not elite, I’m happy to see them taking punts on a steady Eddie rather than trying to swing for the fences with a bold appointment. I rate Frank but I do think it’ll be too much for him.