Author Topic: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."? (Read 4395 times)

Historical Fool · « **Reply #40 on:** August 2, 2023, 01:21:08 am »

Quote from: rob1966 on August 1, 2023, 07:30:27 pm

Is

LFC IS its supporters

LFC IS our club

By the way I recall reading through the early covid thread, and I am glad you are ok and made it through the Covid years.

I are glad if that’s more appropriate

newterp · « **Reply #41 on:** August 2, 2023, 02:15:48 am »

LFC be bad.

Alan_X · « **Reply #42 on:** August 2, 2023, 07:17:30 am »

LFC = Liverpool Football CLUB

Club is singular so “is”.

LFC is in negotiations to sign…

The LFC board are in negotiations with…

However, if you drop the FC it could refer to all things Liverpool - club, players, fans etc. eg Liverpool are magic, Everton are…

NarutoReds · « **Reply #43 on:** August 2, 2023, 08:43:05 am »

I voted for ARE.

But but... For someone who is not from UK like me, let say...

- "Liverpool are the only club that I watch / follow".

Seems weird, because usually I am using "is" if there's "ONLY" word, the only one. But I think I will just stick with what the Council of Scouse Elders have proposed here, just "ARE".

I am in the crucial period of my life in the process of establishing myself as an absolute external Scouser actually, to be honest.

Yorkykopite · « **Reply #44 on:** August 2, 2023, 10:25:30 am »

Liverpool is at Goodison this afternoon…,

If you heard someone say that you’d have to shoot them wouldn’t you?

Qston · « **Reply #45 on:** August 2, 2023, 10:37:25 am »

Quote from: Yorkykopite on August 2, 2023, 10:25:30 am

Liverpool is at Goodison this afternoon…,

If you heard someone say that you’d have to shoot them wouldn’t you?

I was about to post something similar Yorky.

Heathens voting for 'is'

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #46 on:** August 2, 2023, 11:51:35 am »

Quote from: Alan_X on August 2, 2023, 07:17:30 am

LFC = Liverpool Football CLUB

Club is singular so “is”.

LFC is in negotiations to sign…

The LFC board are in negotiations with…

However, if you drop the FC it could refer to all things Liverpool - club, players, fans etc. eg Liverpool are magic, Everton are…

This.

Party Phil · « **Reply #47 on:** August 2, 2023, 12:51:37 pm »

Quote from: mattyyt on August 1, 2023, 10:36:55 pm

“We’re gonna win the league” = we are

Who’s saying “we is”, other than Ali G?

"And it's Liverpool, Liverpool FC, it's by far the best team, the world has ever seen."

Barrow Shaun · « **Reply #48 on:** August 2, 2023, 02:41:45 pm »

Quote from: Party Phil on August 2, 2023, 12:51:37 pm

"And it's Liverpool, Liverpool FC, it's by far the best team, the world has ever seen."

Is it not "they're or we're by far the best team...." It's what I've always sung.

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #49 on:** August 2, 2023, 02:48:52 pm »

Quote from: Barrow Shaun on August 2, 2023, 02:41:45 pm

Is it not "they're or we're by far the best team...." It's what I've always sung.

Same.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #50 on:** August 2, 2023, 03:12:16 pm »

Quote from: Barrow Shaun on August 2, 2023, 02:41:45 pm

Is it not "they're or we're by far the best team...." It's what I've always sung.

Think that’s Phil’s point to show how wrong that sounds. Nearly typed it out last night myself!

Party Phil · « **Reply #51 on:** August 2, 2023, 03:13:21 pm »

Quote from: Barrow Shaun on August 2, 2023, 02:41:45 pm

Is it not "they're or we're by far the best team...." It's what I've always sung.

Yes, it is. I was taking the piss.

Party Phil · « **Reply #52 on:** August 2, 2023, 03:15:04 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Nick on August 2, 2023, 03:12:16 pm

Think that’s Phil’s point to show how wrong that sounds. Nearly typed it out last night myself!

At least Nick understood. That's why I voted for you in the 'Who is cooler?' poll

Titi Camara · « **Reply #53 on:** August 2, 2023, 03:18:54 pm »

Apparently, I'm a wool, do I have to start saying "LFC is..." now?

rob1966 · « **Reply #54 on:** August 2, 2023, 03:23:16 pm »

Quote from: Yorkykopite on August 2, 2023, 10:25:30 am

Liverpool is at Goodison this afternoon…,

If you heard someone say that you’d have to shoot them wouldn’t you?

Its both in reality, like Alan said, the club is an IS, the staff etc are an ARE

Liverpool is a football club based in Anfield - Liverpool is its fans, Liverpool are playing the other team from Liverpool at their poxy old stadium made of wood.

Yorkykopite · « **Reply #55 on:** August 2, 2023, 03:37:49 pm »

Quote from: rob1966 on August 2, 2023, 03:23:16 pm

Its both in reality, like Alan said, the club is an IS, the staff etc are an ARE

Liverpool is a football club based in Anfield - Liverpool is its fans, Liverpool are playing the other team from Liverpool at their poxy old stadium made of wood.

You see that still sounds odd to me. "Liverpool are a football club" sounds much better.

We don't say "Liverpool is a football. It plays at Anfield" - at least I never do. "Liverpool are a football club. They play at Anfield."

afc tukrish · « **Reply #56 on:** August 2, 2023, 03:54:38 pm »

Quote from: Party Phil on August 2, 2023, 03:15:04 pm

At least Nick understood. That's why I voted for you in the 'Who is cooler?' poll

Nick needed at least the one vote...

Anthony · « **Reply #57 on:** August 2, 2023, 03:54:50 pm »

Quote from: Dim Glas on August 1, 2023, 05:31:21 pm

LFC is the club I support

So is it 'LFC ist' or 'LFC sind'?

rob1966 · « **Reply #58 on:** August 2, 2023, 04:33:22 pm »

Quote from: Yorkykopite on August 2, 2023, 03:37:49 pm

You see that still sounds odd to me. "Liverpool are a football club" sounds much better.

We don't say "Liverpool is a football. It plays at Anfield" - at least I never do. "Liverpool are a football club. They play at Anfield."

No wonder non English speakers have so much trouble learning the language

As an entity, ie The Liverpool Football Club and Athletic Grounds Limited (LFC), than this IS a football club. Once you throw in the staff then it becomes an are.

Its the same with one of my employers, the drivers, planners, warehouse staff, customer care staff etc etc are Eddie Stobart, but Eddie Stobart itself is a company owned by Culina. If you removed all the staff/trucks/trailers/depots etc you're just left with the company, so it can't be an are, it has to be an is.

In you're example, I'd say "Liverpool is a football club, They play at Anfield". I'd also say Liverpool are 19 times champions of England. Its headwrecking

Barrow Shaun · « **Reply #59 on:** August 2, 2023, 04:52:42 pm »

It's easy really. If talking about the game and action on the pitch it's simply 'they' and 'are' all day long. (Read an American match report and it's 'it' and 'is.')

Liverpool are playing in red. (Liverpool is playing in red.)
They are chasing the three points tonight. (It is chasing the three points tonight.)

The only way that changes (sometimes)for us in the UK is if the commentators are referring to a particular section of the team during the game: The defence is very organised here.... the attack is looking dangerous.... the midfield is controlling this.... (and in all of those you could use 'are' with very little difference.)

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #60 on:** August 2, 2023, 04:55:42 pm »

What I find weird is how our media/newspaper pages will say "Sport" whereas I think US ones say "Sports".

Kenny's Jacket · « **Reply #61 on:** August 2, 2023, 05:36:27 pm »

I agree Are sounds much better, but I always hear on the Radio

Company is hiring

company is giving away etc

Are sounds better though

vanoord · « **Reply #62 on:** August 2, 2023, 08:27:58 pm »

Quote from: Alan_X on August 2, 2023, 07:17:30 am

LFC = Liverpool Football CLUB

Club is singular so “is”.

LFC is in negotiations to sign…

The LFC board are in negotiations with…

However, if you drop the FC it could refer to all things Liverpool - club, players, fans etc. eg Liverpool are magic, Everton are…

Yup.

Liverpool are...

Liverpool Football Club is...

CHOPPER · « **Reply #63 on:** August 2, 2023, 08:47:05 pm »

Its MY! LFC

Henry Kissinger · « **Reply #64 on:** August 2, 2023, 09:25:08 pm »

Quote from: Kenny's Jacket on August 2, 2023, 05:36:27 pm

I agree Are sounds much better, but I always hear on the Radio

Company is hiring

company is giving away etc

Are sounds better though

That's because 'company' is a singular noun. 'Companies are hiring', etc, plural noun.
'The crowd is getting bigger' = singular noun. 'The crowds are getting bigger' = plural noun.

Liverpool Football Club is a singular noun. The city of Liverpool is a singular noun.

When we talk about a group of footballers (plural) it's 'are'.

While we're on the subject of grammar, can you yobbos stop using past verbs in place of past participles. It's very annoying.

Titi Camara · « **Reply #65 on:** August 2, 2023, 10:41:30 pm »

Avens · « **Reply #66 on:** August 2, 2023, 11:02:44 pm »

The same applied for countries.

'Japan are experiencing the effects of an ageing population.' vs 'Japan is experiencing the effects of an ageing population.'

If you pick the latter, what happens when Japan is/are playing football? 'Japan are playing well here with their young side despite the fact that it has an ageing population.' 😳

Historical Fool · « **Reply #67 on:** August 3, 2023, 01:38:22 am »

The Japanese are playing well here with their young side despite the fact that Japan is a country with an ageist population …

scalatore · « **Reply #68 on:** August 3, 2023, 01:54:34 am »

British English would have it be 'are' and US English would have it be 'is.' I voted are, but both make sense contextually - Liverpool are playing Chelsea tomorrow, Liverpool is my club. It was actually one of the jarring things when I moved to the US and had to digest their (it's) sport(s) media.

ian1204 · « **Reply #69 on:** August 3, 2023, 08:55:12 am »

We are....is all you need

Mighty_Red · « **Reply #70 on:** August 4, 2023, 01:53:55 am »

Liverpool ARE is nearing completion?

jepovic · « **Reply #71 on:** August 4, 2023, 12:07:27 pm »

Its reassuring to know that I a good chunk of people will be annoyed either way

afc tukrish · « **Reply #72 on:** August 4, 2023, 12:41:17 pm »

Quote from: jepovic on August 4, 2023, 12:07:27 pm

Its reassuring to know that I a good chunk of people will be annoyed either way

the chunk is annoyed?

a chunk are annoyed?

Barrow Shaun · « **Reply #73 on:** August 4, 2023, 01:03:16 pm »

Quote from: afc tukrish on August 4, 2023, 12:41:17 pm

the chunk is annoyed?

a chunk are annoyed?

Some people don't know their 'are/is' from their elbow.

jambutty · « **Reply #74 on:** August 4, 2023, 03:58:57 pm »

Boss.

Fuck the chunk.

But never, ever, ever, chuck the Funk.

Titi Camara · « **Reply #75 on:** August 4, 2023, 08:07:58 pm »

It's "are" time!

Medellin · « **Reply #76 on:** August 4, 2023, 09:45:00 pm »

LFC are boss.

Titi Camara · « **Reply #77 on:** August 11, 2023, 03:21:09 am »

4 days left to vote

The "Is" weirdos are getting pummelled*

*no, not like that!

SportBilly · « **Reply #78 on:** August 11, 2023, 04:14:48 am »

Quote from: Titi Camara on August 11, 2023, 03:21:09 am

...
The "Is" weirdos are getting pummelled*
...

Oh they is!

I voted 'are'. I see Liverpool as a name as 'is'. Liverpool FC being more possessive & consisting of a team: 'are' (though for the pedants, I'm well aware that the city of Liverpool is made up of many people

)

Liverpool (city) is bracing itself for some unseasonably warm weather. Liverpool (FC) are making a statement with this signing.

As another exiled Scouser in the US, the is/are thing over here really irks me. Hearing punters ask something like "Is Liverpool capable of winning the title this year?" sounds absolutely bloody ridiculous. And please don't get me started on Sport(s) and Math(s). There's more than one of each.

Espresso Bar · « **Reply #79 on:** August 12, 2023, 01:14:15 am »

We are

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