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"LFC is" or "LFC are"?

LFC is...
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LFC are...
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Voting closed: August 15, 2023, 05:26:02 pm

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"LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« on: August 1, 2023, 05:26:02 pm »
Is the club a singular or plural entity? No "it depends", no sitting in the fence, is it....

LFC is...

or

LFC are...
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #1 on: August 1, 2023, 05:29:12 pm »
Quote from: Titi Camara on August  1, 2023, 05:26:02 pm
Is the club a singular or plural entity? No "it depends", no sitting in the fence, is it....

LFC is...

or

LFC are...

In English English, it would be plural.

So, because that doesn't matter in the slightest, what is the rule for Scouse?  :D
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #2 on: August 1, 2023, 05:29:37 pm »
LFC are...

Liverpool Are Magic...  8)
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #3 on: August 1, 2023, 05:31:21 pm »
LFC is the club I support  :P
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #4 on: August 1, 2023, 05:32:14 pm »
Anyone saying Is, is a bad wool ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #5 on: August 1, 2023, 05:33:11 pm »
Quote from: Titi Camara on August  1, 2023, 05:32:14 pm
Anyone saying Is, is a bad wool ;D ;D ;D ;D

Definitely. Or Australian. Probably even worse.

I noticed they put everything in the singular when talking about sports teams. It’s just not right.
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #6 on: August 1, 2023, 05:38:54 pm »
It depends (contextually) on whether LFC is metonymic for the people involved with the club (players, coaches, execs and even the fans sometimes) or the club itself as a singular corporate entity. What people are referring to by LFC can vary, but usually its the former (the example that Dim Glas gave is a good example of where it is the latter).
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« Reply #7 on: August 1, 2023, 05:44:38 pm »
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #8 on: August 1, 2023, 05:45:09 pm »
Liverpool F.C. is hard as hell
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« Reply #9 on: August 1, 2023, 05:46:44 pm »
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #10 on: August 1, 2023, 05:50:16 pm »
Quote from: Titi Camara on August  1, 2023, 05:44:38 pm


I gave you the two discrete circumstances it depends on (and why, with an assessment of which one would usually be more applicable!)

That's not fence sitting!
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #11 on: August 1, 2023, 05:56:53 pm »
Quote from: CowboyKangaroo on August  1, 2023, 05:50:16 pm
I gave you the two discrete circumstances it depends on (and why, with an assessment of which one would usually be more applicable!)

That's not fence sitting!
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #12 on: August 1, 2023, 05:57:42 pm »
The Americans tend to use a club as an impersonal entity hence the 'it' all the time. We tend to refer to football clubs as peopled entities hence 'are' and 'they' etc.
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #13 on: August 1, 2023, 06:09:46 pm »
Liverpool is, was and always will be
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #14 on: August 1, 2023, 06:15:36 pm »
Are!
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #15 on: August 1, 2023, 06:19:50 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: August 1, 2023, 06:28:40 pm »
Are - 1000%!
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #17 on: August 1, 2023, 06:39:36 pm »
Are, most defintitely. Americans say is, even my Irish mate who now lives there has started saying it, for example "Dallas is well tipped for the Super Bowl" etc. To me that always sounds daft as it makes it sound like you're talking about a place not a club/team. To say "Liverpool is" sounds like you're talking about something more than the team, but it's not something thar gets me too wound up, it's just a word after all.
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #18 on: August 1, 2023, 06:42:45 pm »
Quote from: I've been a good boy on August  1, 2023, 06:09:46 pm
Liverpool is, was and always will be
So you're saying Liverpool are.  ;)
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #19 on: August 1, 2023, 06:44:54 pm »
Everton is tragic
Liverpool is magic

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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #20 on: August 1, 2023, 07:30:27 pm »
Is

LFC IS its supporters

LFC IS our club
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #21 on: August 1, 2023, 07:31:49 pm »
Quote from: Son of Spion on August  1, 2023, 06:42:45 pm
So you're saying Liverpool are.  ;)
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« Reply #22 on: August 1, 2023, 08:12:08 pm »
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #23 on: August 1, 2023, 08:24:30 pm »
Are.

LFC are Champions/ cup holders/ winners/ the greatest/ unbeaten/ awesome/ (insert any and all positive words).
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #24 on: August 1, 2023, 09:55:16 pm »
Club is singular and team is plural - or at least that is how I think I tend to speak
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #25 on: August 1, 2023, 09:58:58 pm »
"Liverpool are pleased to announce the signing of..."

Are, always are.
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #26 on: August 1, 2023, 10:11:02 pm »
Quote from: Crosby Nick on August  1, 2023, 05:33:11 pm
Definitely. Or Australian. Probably even worse.

I noticed they put everything in the singular when talking about sports teams. It’s just not right.

Yeah Americans, Australians and probably Canadians all do the singular thing with teams. I've tried pointing out the lack of logic when they say things like 'Blimey the Magpies is having a ripper season' but they don't listen :(
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #27 on: August 1, 2023, 10:20:30 pm »
Didnt Barrow Shaun start a similar thread with the same poll 2 days ago?

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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #28 on: August 1, 2023, 10:25:56 pm »
It depends on the context.

Liverpool, the City, is a wonderful place.

Liverpool, the club, are a wonderful team
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #29 on: August 1, 2023, 10:27:28 pm »
Quote from: ianburns252 on August  1, 2023, 09:55:16 pm
Club is singular and team is plural - or at least that is how I think I tend to speak

That's what I was going to say as well. Hence why LFC sounds better saying "is".
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #30 on: August 1, 2023, 10:29:51 pm »
Good question. I feel stupidly passionate about this. It’s ARE of course. Gets on my wick when the occasional ignoramus does the Yankee thing and goes for ‘is’.
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #31 on: August 1, 2023, 10:36:55 pm »
“We’re gonna win the league” = we are

Who’s saying “we is”, other than Ali G?
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« Reply #32 on: August 1, 2023, 10:40:14 pm »
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« Reply #33 on: August 1, 2023, 10:42:20 pm »
Quote from: Capon Debaser on August  1, 2023, 10:20:30 pm
Didnt Barrow Shaun start a similar thread with the same poll 2 days ago?
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #34 on: August 1, 2023, 10:52:17 pm »
Are

I'm a solicitor, quite pedantic about words, dad a headteacher pedantic too, however pedantry aside, my biggest love since 1987, is LFC and to my mind it's are

LFC are magic 
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« Reply #35 on: August 1, 2023, 10:53:15 pm »
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« Reply #36 on: August 1, 2023, 11:01:41 pm »
Quote from: Reeves on August  1, 2023, 10:52:17 pm
Are

I'm a solicitor, quite pedantic about words, dad a headteacher pedantic too, however pedantry aside, my biggest love since 1987, is LFC and to my mind it's are

LFC are magic 

So do you mean your biggest love *are* LFC? ;)
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #37 on: August 1, 2023, 11:24:44 pm »
Quote from: Capon Debaser on August  1, 2023, 10:20:30 pm
Didnt Barrow Shaun start a similar thread with the same poll 2 days ago?

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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #38 on: August 2, 2023, 12:35:25 am »
The club I support is LFC. LFC are the club I support. ;D
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Re: "LFC is..." or "LFC are..."?
« Reply #39 on: August 2, 2023, 01:18:16 am »
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Anyone saying Is, is a bad wool ;D ;D ;D ;D

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