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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9000 on: May 16, 2024, 10:16:22 am »
Konate has been first choice for a while and Deschamps sticks with those he trusts. Jota may get games off the bench but he will be first or second sub for them.

Fair dos on Konate. If he is still first choice hopefully he can find some form and confidence.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9001 on: May 16, 2024, 10:18:50 am »
Fair dos on Konate. If he is still first choice hopefully he can find some form and confidence.

Ultimately all teams are going to be affected. We have a new manager to bed in as well and they wont get much time with him until the new season starts.

Arsenal are going to have to have a year like 2019 was for us, where the form in the calendar year was incredible and effectively won us the league in the following season. Going to be tough or impossible to replicate that.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9002 on: May 16, 2024, 10:21:33 am »
Any Arsenal fan might as well stick a grand on City winning, if they don't you can at least console yourself with the title.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9003 on: May 16, 2024, 10:26:13 am »
Arsenal are a very good side, but it’s when the games come in quick succession and they have to play more than once a week they struggle a bit so I think it depends if they can get players in during the summer that are comfortable starting games instead of the more established stars & giving them a bit of a rest

They had a bad run in December towards the end of the group stages when they lost 3 out of 5 league games. Then they were a winning machine after we won the cup game until the knock out stages started again when they suffered defeats to Porto, Villa & Bayern… the villa result probably costing them the league
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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9004 on: May 16, 2024, 12:13:53 pm »
Doesnt Konate start ahead of Saliba for France

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9005 on: May 16, 2024, 01:41:22 pm »
Any Arsenal fan might as well stick a grand on City winning, if they don't you can at least console yourself with the title.

I did something similar-ish to this in 2019, put a decentish bet  [not a grand] on city winning every week from about 4/5 games out I think. Won every time, annoyingly, but the winnings paid for my flight to madrid.
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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9006 on: May 16, 2024, 02:52:11 pm »
I did something similar-ish to this in 2019, put a decentish bet  [not a grand] on city winning every week from about 4/5 games out I think. Won every time, annoyingly, but the winnings paid for my flight to madrid.

Should’ve thought of that, too late now theres no money to be made from a West Ham defeat

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9007 on: May 16, 2024, 03:12:20 pm »
Should’ve thought of that, too late now theres no money to be made from a West Ham defeat
Can you put money on the half time score? If our history of second places is anything to go by, City will taunt you by having a stinker of a first half. You'll get your hopes up as the scoreline seems to work in your favour but as the saying goes, it's the hope that kills you because they'll ramp it up for the last half hour and stroll to victory (possibly aided by a dodgy decision from the ref just to further kick you in the teeth while you're feeling down).

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9008 on: May 16, 2024, 03:14:36 pm »
Can you put money on the half time score? If our history of second places is anything to go by, City will taunt you by having a stinker of a first half. You'll get your hopes up as the scoreline seems to work in your favour but as the saying goes, it's the hope that kills you because they'll ramp it up for the last half hour and stroll to victory (possibly aided by a dodgy decision from the ref just to further kick you in the teeth while you're feeling down).

Even if west ham go 2-0 up,  I genuinely wouldn’t get excited. Seen this horror movie before.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9009 on: May 16, 2024, 03:15:25 pm »
Even if west ham go 2-0 I genuinely wouldn’t get excited. Seen this horror movie before.

Just wait til Calvert-Lewis bundles one in off his arse early doors (genuinely hope this doesn’t happen!).

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9010 on: May 16, 2024, 03:44:06 pm »
This will be the first time Man City "win" the premier league at the expense of someone other than Liverpool or Man Utd
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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9011 on: May 16, 2024, 04:58:35 pm »
Even if west ham go 2-0 up,  I genuinely wouldn’t get excited. Seen this horror movie before.
You's are drawing v the Ev anyway, I reckon.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9012 on: May 16, 2024, 05:01:19 pm »
You's are drawing v the Ev anyway, I reckon.

I've got the same feeling
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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9013 on: May 16, 2024, 05:08:31 pm »
This will be the first time Man City "win" the premier league at the expense of someone other than Liverpool or Man Utd

What about last season

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9014 on: May 16, 2024, 05:13:26 pm »
What about last season

Shit, you're right. I'd erased last season from my mind pretty much.

Makes it worse for you too though
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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9015 on: May 16, 2024, 06:24:17 pm »
Three times in recent years we've reached over 90 points in a season.

And we've only repeated this once, the other two times we had a bit of a shocker. Though one of those was because all our centre-halves got injured at the same time.

So it's not really a given that Arsenal will do as well next season. There's really an awful lot that can go wrong.

This will be the first time Man City "win" the premier league at the expense of someone other than Liverpool or Man Utd

Well it's certainly the first time for quite a while that someone's run them close apart from us.
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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9016 on: May 16, 2024, 06:45:39 pm »
Arsenal's Center-Back Pairings this season:

Community Shield    : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 1           : White - Saliba
Gameweek # 2           : White - Saliba
Gameweek # 3           : White - Saliba
Gameweek # 4           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 5           : Gabriel - Saliba

UCL Group # 1            : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 6           : Gabriel - Saliba
League Cup # 1           : Gabriel - Tomiyasu
Gameweek # 7           : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL Group # 2            : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 8           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 9           : Gabriel - Saliba

UCL Group # 3            : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 10   : Kiwior - Saliba (vs Sheffield Utd.)
League Cup # 2           : Gabriel - Kiwior
Gameweek # 11   : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL Group # 4            : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 12   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 13   : Gabriel - Saliba

UCL Group # 5            : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 14   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 15   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 16   : Gabriel - Saliba

UCL Group # 6            : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 17   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 18   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 19   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 20   : Gabriel - Saliba

FA Cup # 1           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 21   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 22   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 23   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 24   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 25   : Gabriel - Saliba

UCL 2R # 1           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 26   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 27   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 28   : Gabriel - Saliba

UCL 2R # 2           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 29   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 30   : Gabriel - Saliba

UCL QF # 1           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 31   : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL QF # 2           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 32   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 33   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 34   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 35   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 36   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 37   : Gabriel - Saliba


So since Gameweek 11 (4th November), Arteta has not needed to change his center-back pairing! I will be very interested to see if they can keep both Gabriel & Saliba fit through the entire course of next season.

Compared to that, we have had the following combination:

VVD - Konate : 22
VVD - Quansah : 15
Quansah - Konate : 7
VVD - Matip : 7
Quansah - Matip : 3
Gomez - Matip : 2
Quansah - Gomez : 1
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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9017 on: May 16, 2024, 07:00:07 pm »
That’s mad. Even in our pomp, it was Virg plus one with Lovren, Matip and Gomez all having spells alongside.I imagine Rice has started almost every game too. And maybe White and Saka too.

Again at our best we were ‘lucky’ that our key players were generally always available too. Getting the right type of players is imoortant, but there’s still an element of fortune needed to keep them all fit.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9018 on: May 16, 2024, 07:20:35 pm »
That’s mad. Even in our pomp, it was Virg plus one with Lovren, Matip and Gomez all having spells alongside.I imagine Rice has started almost every game too. And maybe White and Saka too.

Again at our best we were ‘lucky’ that our key players were generally always available too. Getting the right type of players is imoortant, but there’s still an element of fortune needed to keep them all fit.

I am very intrigued to see how Arteta will cope with an injury or loss of form with his center-back pairing next season. Arsenal have not needed to deploy Plan-B at any stage of this season with respect to their defense. Their weak point appears to be the left back position, which also happens to be the position that is under the greatest flux this season. Their Plan-A has been great.. boring perhaps, but extremely effective.

I don't subsrcibe to the view that they will be challenging for sure next season. That will depend entirely on the final day (in my opinion). Win the title, and I can see them possibly winning another few trophies in the next few years. Lose on Sunday, and I think the mental wheels may fall off. And once that does, the physical wheels (i.e. injuries) isn't usually far off.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9019 on: May 16, 2024, 07:25:09 pm »
Arsenal's Center-Back Pairings this season:

Community Shield    : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 1           : White - Saliba
Gameweek # 2           : White - Saliba
Gameweek # 3           : White - Saliba
Gameweek # 4           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 5           : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL Group # 1            : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 6           : Gabriel - Saliba
League Cup # 1           : Gabriel - Tomiyasu
Gameweek # 7           : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL Group # 2            : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 8           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 9           : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL Group # 3            : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 10   : Kiwior - Saliba (vs Sheffield Utd.)
League Cup # 2           : Gabriel - Kiwior
Gameweek # 11   : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL Group # 4            : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 12   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 13   : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL Group # 5            : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 14   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 15   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 16   : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL Group # 6            : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 17   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 18   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 19   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 20   : Gabriel - Saliba
FA Cup # 1           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 21   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 22   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 23   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 24   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 25   : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL 2R # 1           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 26   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 27   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 28   : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL 2R # 1           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 29   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 30   : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL QF # 1           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 31   : Gabriel - Saliba
UCL QF # 2           : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 32   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 33   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 34   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 35   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 36   : Gabriel - Saliba
Gameweek # 37   : Gabriel - Saliba

So since Gameweek 11 (4th November), Arteta has not needed to change his center-back pairing! I will be very interested to see if they can keep both Gabriel & Saliba fit through the entire course of next season.

Compared to that, we have had the following combination:

VVD - Konate : 22
VVD - Quansah : 15
Quansah - Konate : 7
VVD - Matip : 7
Quansah - Matip : 3
Gomez - Matip : 2
Quansah - Gomez : 1
Maybe Arteta has Ped’s magic juice recipe.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9020 on: May 16, 2024, 09:49:14 pm »
The 5 year old that fell out of a 15 story tower block and died was an arsenal fan.  RIP little lad.
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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9021 on: May 16, 2024, 11:59:06 pm »
The 5 year old that fell out of a 15 story tower block and died was an arsenal fan.  RIP little lad.


So sad, his poor family, devastating.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9022 on: May 17, 2024, 02:52:02 am »
This will be the first time Man City "win" the premier league at the expense of someone other than Liverpool or Man Utd

Youve already forgot last year then?

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9023 on: May 17, 2024, 04:22:43 am »
Arsenal alchemy. Better points total than City for both  the first 18 games and the last 18 games of  the season and still miss out assuming both win on Sunday.

First 18 games:
Arsenal 40 points
City 37

Last 18 games:
Arsenal 49 points
City 48

But,er, it’s a 38 game season and you’ve missed out the 2 games in the middle of the season:
Arsenal 0 points
Ciity 6 points

Those 2 defeats at the end of December have cost you dearly. In fact the 5 game run in December of 1 win, 1 draw and 3 losses was the killer.



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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9024 on: May 17, 2024, 07:01:24 am »
So blinkered, they're discounting us and I think they're in for a rude awakening

I certainly wouldn't discount anyone, certainly not Liverpool. I think most perhaps discounted you this season, an that very nearly backfired.

I also don't take it as a given there won't be a slight drop off from us. I already tried to say to BBA that football is a weird game, that just when you think you have it sussed, it can mite you right in the arse.

I get why we should be here, and that's the triangle of Gabriel, Saliba and Rice. We've been built on solid foundations, not only least goals conceded, but every metric like xg conceded, chances created against, shots faced etc has us a team very difficult to play against.

Of course, as has been pointed out, we've not had to deal with any injuries to those 3 in last season. Thankfully we know they are robust, and don't have a history of struggling to stay fit, like someone like Konate might have. But all it takes is an awkward fall, a horror tackle to derail that (look at Timber first game of the season this season, he's missed the full campaign consequently.)

So yeah, let's see what the summer brings. We have a few areas w need in terms of obvious improvement, left back being a weakness but Timber was meant to address that, a long term partner for Rice, and at least 1 more forward. I don't want to disrupt things too much though, as City have made it perfectly obvious you can't start slow, as well as you can't finish slow, and as @Achilles Heel's analysis shows, you can't afford any sort of slight dip in the season now whatsoever. It's feckin difficult to break that 90 point barrier needed, we've remained unbeaten against the 'big 6' this season and still not managed it, I'll certainly be surprised if we manage that for a 2nd successive season. Yeah, City have made the league very fun, basically removing all the twists and turns out it that helped make the league so exciting in the first place. Good times indeed.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9025 on: May 17, 2024, 07:32:46 am »
Arsenal alchemy. Better points total than City for both  the first 18 games and the last 18 games of  the season and still miss out assuming both win on Sunday.

First 18 games:
Arsenal 40 points
City 37

Last 18 games:
Arsenal 49 points
City 48

But,er, it’s a 38 game season and you’ve missed out the 2 games in the middle of the season:
Arsenal 0 points
Ciity 6 points

Those 2 defeats at the end of December have cost you dearly. In fact the 5 game run in December of 1 win, 1 draw and 3 losses was the killer.

Our total for the last 18 games is ridiculous. Thats what we need to do over the whole season to beat city

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9026 on: May 17, 2024, 07:36:01 am »
I only dont think Liverpool will challenge for the title because im expecting a drop off with the upheaval of Klopp and his entire team leaving and a new team coming in. Id expect the same at city and arsenal if pep or arteta were leaving this summer. I think its natural to expect that.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9027 on: May 17, 2024, 07:38:11 am »
I only dont think Liverpool will challenge for the title because im expecting a drop off with the upheaval of Klopp and his entire team leaving and a new team coming in. Id expect the same at city and arsenal if pep or arteta were leaving this summer. I think its natural to expect that.
Basically saying our new manager will be shit?
That’s low even for you.

I’ll give you this, you do try very hard to get digs in without it seeming too obvious.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9028 on: May 17, 2024, 08:01:29 am »
Basically saying our new manager will be shit?
That’s low even for you.

I’ll give you this, you do try very hard to get digs in without it seeming too obvious.

You read what he said and that's your take away from it? Something the majority of Liverpool fans on the forum already has said?

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9029 on: May 17, 2024, 08:13:51 am »
Basically saying our new manager will be shit?
That’s low even for you.

I’ll give you this, you do try very hard to get digs in without it seeming too obvious.

You have an effortless way of looking both snide and stupid at the same time
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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9030 on: May 17, 2024, 08:29:35 am »
I only dont think Liverpool will challenge for the title because im expecting a drop off with the upheaval of Klopp and his entire team leaving and a new team coming in. Id expect the same at city and arsenal if pep or arteta were leaving this summer. I think its natural to expect that.

Slot does seem to have been a target because he can bring continuity.  We nearly always see 'poor' results with a manager once the new manager bounce is done.  As they bring in their new team and new style, teams have to adapt. The square pegs are shipped out.  Normally though, managers leave because they are deemed no longer good enough. (Although I guess there's a void to be filled when they do move, so a decent number of teams are filling a vaccancy in a 'good' team).
I think any sane fan would want us to be competing for top 4 in his first season. If he could bag a trophy and doesn't come across as a tosser we'd  be satisfied (as always, if he starts with half a dozen 8-0 wins, then anything less than a title tilt would seem disappointing).  I think many of us didn't really see us challenging for the title when the underlying stats and the performances looked shaky , even when we were top, were likely to come back and bite us, so to expect a new coach to would be silly.
--edit-- has Slot actually been confirmed?
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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9031 on: May 17, 2024, 08:37:20 am »
Slot does seem to have been a target because he can bring continuity.  We nearly always see 'poor' results with a manager once the new manager bounce is done.  As they bring in their new team and new style, teams have to adapt. The square pegs are shipped out.  Normally though, managers leave because they are deemed no longer good enough. (Although I guess there's a void to be filled when they do move, so a decent number of teams are filling a vaccancy in a 'good' team).
I think any sane fan would want us to be competing for top 4 in his first season. If he could bag a trophy and doesn't come across as a tosser we'd  be satisfied (as always, if he starts with half a dozen 8-0 wins, then anything less than a title tilt would seem disappointing).  I think many of us didn't really see us challenging for the title when the underlying stats and the performances looked shaky , even when we were top, were likely to come back and bite us, so to expect a new coach to would be silly.
--edit-- has Slot actually been confirmed?
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You're right Paul, and no-one should right Liverpool off. At the same time, people shouldn't complain when people call Klopp the best manager in the world, and think that means there could be a slight drop off from the performances and wins that he can extract out of players.

It's not even the on the field stuff that will need adjustment, it's the pure presence that a giant like Klopp has within a club, especially an emotional club like Liverpool where successful managers are treated like gods.

However, he has left a very good squad, and perhaps done the hardest part of the rebuild last summer. You can now see a side where you slot 2 or 3 pieces in, are ready to go again. That's the big thing, that your still on the pitch a better footballing side than nearly every side in the division.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9032 on: May 17, 2024, 08:39:27 am »
Basically saying our new manager will be shit?
That’s low even for you.

I’ll give you this, you do try very hard to get digs in without it seeming too obvious.

That’s not what he’s said is it? And there are plenty of Liverpool fans who think it’s inevitable we’ll see some kind of drop off. I’m a bit more optimistic because I think some of our current issues can be fixed if everyone buys into the new man.

That stat about Arsenal being the best over the first 18 and las 18 is brutal. Again reminds me of 13/14when we lost two in a row over Christmas (the hardest two fixtures of the season).And Los the league by 2 points? Oh good, that’s made me remember the disallowed Sterling goal at City and the non red card that Chelsea player should have had.



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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9033 on: May 17, 2024, 08:42:13 am »
You have an effortless way of looking both snide and stupid at the same time
And you’re a prick coming on a Liverpool forum saying they won’t challenge for the title!!!

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9034 on: May 17, 2024, 09:09:02 am »
Slot does seem to have been a target because he can bring continuity.  We nearly always see 'poor' results with a manager once the new manager bounce is done.  As they bring in their new team and new style, teams have to adapt. The square pegs are shipped out.  Normally though, managers leave because they are deemed no longer good enough. (Although I guess there's a void to be filled when they do move, so a decent number of teams are filling a vaccancy in a 'good' team).
I think any sane fan would want us to be competing for top 4 in his first season. If he could bag a trophy and doesn't come across as a tosser we'd  be satisfied (as always, if he starts with half a dozen 8-0 wins, then anything less than a title tilt would seem disappointing).  I think many of us didn't really see us challenging for the title when the underlying stats and the performances looked shaky , even when we were top, were likely to come back and bite us, so to expect a new coach to would be silly.
--edit-- has Slot actually been confirmed?
--edit2-- is this an Arsenal piss take thread? Is there a serious one?  I think we have a serious Man Utd one, but I've never ventured in there.

You can get continuity in terms of style and tactics which will help, and no doubt Slot wasnt a random selection in the way united choose managers. But Klopp had that x factor and an emotional bond with the players and the city that takes a lot of time to build so I think therell be bumps along the way early on.
You could win every game and be even better than this season, ange won like 10 in a row when he started at spurs . Just giving my expectations.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9035 on: May 17, 2024, 09:10:45 am »
That’s not what he’s said is it? And there are plenty of Liverpool fans who think it’s inevitable we’ll see some kind of drop off. I’m a bit more optimistic because I think some of our current issues can be fixed if everyone buys into the new man.

That stat about Arsenal being the best over the first 18 and las 18 is brutal. Again reminds me of 13/14when we lost two in a row over Christmas (the hardest two fixtures of the season).And Los the league by 2 points? Oh good, that’s made me remember the disallowed Sterling goal at City and the non red card that Chelsea player should have had.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9036 on: May 17, 2024, 12:09:28 pm »
I’m in the office today and it’s very quiet. There’s an Arsenal fan on a call loudly bemoaning the relentless of Man City. Might go and give him a very patronising hug.

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9037 on: May 17, 2024, 01:07:20 pm »
That’s not what he’s said is it? And there are plenty of Liverpool fans who think it’s inevitable we’ll see some kind of drop off. I’m a bit more optimistic because I think some of our current issues can be fixed if everyone buys into the new man.

That stat about Arsenal being the best over the first 18 and las 18 is brutal. Again reminds me of 13/14when we lost two in a row over Christmas (the hardest two fixtures of the season).And Los the league by 2 points? Oh good, that’s made me remember the disallowed Sterling goal at City and the non red card that Chelsea player should have had.
Just something I’ve noticed in his comments lately. Like when he ‘felt sad for Jurgen when watching him  waving to three empty stands after his last ever European game at Anfield’

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9038 on: May 17, 2024, 01:12:42 pm »
Just something I’ve noticed in his comments lately. Like when he ‘felt sad for Jurgen when watching him  waving to three empty stands after his last ever European game at Anfield’

Yeah that was bollocks and rightfully called out. :D

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Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Reply #9039 on: May 17, 2024, 01:51:35 pm »
City and Arsenal are the only two teams guaranteed top 4 next season.

Now I personally think Liverpool and Chelsea will be the other two (mainly because Spurs and United are too far back and Spurs will have Europe next season), but Chelsea are still a basket-case for now, and we have no idea at all how Liverpool will look next season. We've lost two of our most experienced (although injury prone) players today, and a full bus load of backroom staff and our manager are all leaving. There is 100% no guarantee we will even have another 80-point season let alone challenge for the title and I would personally take 3rd and another domestic cup now so long as it was clear to see Slot was settling and we were making progress.

One thing I will say despite how pointless it is, if we had Rice or Rodri in our team we would have won the league this season. We badly need a player like that and I just don't see one out there.