Author Topic: Half time: Crystal Palace 0-0 Liverpool (Read 4400 times)

TepidT2O · « **Reply #120 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:41:32 pm »

Quote from: jillc on February 25, 2023, 08:38:10 pm

All those having a go at Gomez it's the same whoever is playing at the back, the lacks of legs in the midfield is meaning they are constantly under pressure and that creates more mistakes from players as a result. Something worth remembering the next time people have a go at a player.

Repeat repeat repeat

mainone · « **Reply #121 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:41:43 pm »

yes if you missed it trents free kick was heading for the corner hendo got in the way after blocking the wall figure

naYoRHa2b · « **Reply #122 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:41:48 pm »

Quote from: CS111 on February 25, 2023, 08:38:30 pm

Something badly wrong throughout the team.
You'd nearly swear there is something personal wrong with TAA, he's looked weird all season, or else maybe people were right all along and he can't defend which was masked by the fact that we didn't have to defend much in seasons gone by

I know someone that works at St Mary's College and they (Trent's former teacher) was asked about him just general football chat and him looking off and he said he looks like he hasn't changed since school, sulking etc. Used to refuse to play for the school team if he couldn't get his own way.

Fromola · « **Reply #123 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:41:55 pm »

Quote from: RedBec1993 on February 25, 2023, 08:37:25 pm

We miss nunez massively. I would say he’s our most important player atm (bar Alisson)

It's very much like Forest away.

We can't afford to be without Konate, Thiago, Nunez and Diaz. Palace have been shit but so were Forest when we lost there. Hopefully we can pinch a 1-0 here.

Redric1970 · « **Reply #124 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:41:59 pm »

Quote from: jillc on February 25, 2023, 08:38:10 pm

All those having a go at Gomez it's the same whoever is playing at the back, the lacks of legs in the midfield is meaning they are constantly under pressure and that creates more mistakes from players as a result. Something worth remembering the next time people have a go at a player.

Absolutely spot on jill.

Syntexity · « **Reply #125 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:42:01 pm »

Clowns in defence today really. How shit can you be at passing and defending and still be allowed to play? One outdoing the other out there. Get Matip off, the guy is clearly a liability, get Trent off as well. Keita needs to be subbed as he will be sent off soon. Put Milly at RB, Bacjetic and Fab on. At this point I would give Williams a shot ahead of Matip who seems completely off it.

Maybe its a bit harsh, but at this point we need players who is up for a game and not constantly in fear.

Game is possible to win, but we need to be better in front of goal, make some better decisions. Would be a nice surprise if they came out in the second and improved so that we could get another three points. There have been moments and signs lately that we can create and score goals, win games and play better. We need to continue that. Forget the second half against Real, we were excellent in that first half. Find that intensity and will, that will beat most teams,

Come on Liverpool! YNWA!!!

Samie · « **Reply #126 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:42:02 pm »

Our midfield is a bottom half midfield.

rushyman · « **Reply #127 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:42:10 pm »

Quote from: TALBERT on February 25, 2023, 08:40:50 pm

Even looking at our bench I’m uninspired

Where’s

Ox or Arthur

Jones, Elliott or a low on confidence Fabinho

Bajcetic and Carvalho on Trent and Keita off

Milner at rb

Bend It Like Aurelio · « **Reply #128 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:42:14 pm »

Had really good decent spells in the first bit, then we let Palace dictate the flow of the game by pressing deeper into the left and cutting off Robertson and Milner. Then kept pushing into the space between Trent and Matip. The latter both look absolutely devoid of confidence.

But you can see when our press breaks down up front the whole defence breaks down, just as Klopp predicted. The trouble is Keita has been poor with his pressing, that whole right side is like a sieve at the moment.

The worst is I can’t see any good solutions to the problem at hand. Putting Elliott in would probably have similar results. Fabinho in may help, but that means Henderson has to take Keita’s spot, and I don’t know if that works either. Bajcetic would be the most obvious choice, but you really don’t want to burn him out.

TALBERT · « **Reply #129 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:42:20 pm »

Henderson with a block on Trent’s free kick

Fitzy. · « **Reply #130 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:42:21 pm »

Bit like Brighton away. Lucky to be level first half. Let’s hope it’s not a collapse…

Vote For Pedro · « **Reply #131 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:42:36 pm »

Turgid and self-destructive. Apart from that it's been great. Sure we'll pick it up in the second half.

rocco · « **Reply #132 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:42:39 pm »

Trent needs a hair cut

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #133 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:42:43 pm »

Quote from: RK7 on February 25, 2023, 08:40:42 pm

You actually believe that don't you...

I believe the lack of legs is affecting the back line yes, otherwise how come so many mistakes by players are being made. Trent has made two today, Alisson had to take evasive action to get Matip out of trouble. You think everything is fine do you?

mainone · « **Reply #134 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:42:54 pm »

fuck off na yorha 2b

redmark · « **Reply #135 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:42:56 pm »

Quote from: StL-Dono on February 25, 2023, 08:38:57 pm

Is it bad when you can only find one reliable and confident center back? Usually you need at least two in our setup.

Konate? Not playing.

VVD got a bit lucky on the chance when Trent lost the ball inside the area. He was completely static and let Mateta amble off him, reacting only after Trent lost the ball and not in time to get to Mateta.

disgraced cake · « **Reply #136 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:43:04 pm »

Quote from: jillc on February 25, 2023, 08:38:10 pm

All those having a go at Gomez it's the same whoever is playing at the back, the lacks of legs in the midfield is meaning they are constantly under pressure and that creates more mistakes from players as a result. Something worth remembering the next time people have a go at a player.

This x1000

BER · « **Reply #137 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:43:04 pm »

Yep, still shit.

robertobaggio37 · « **Reply #138 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:43:20 pm »

Quote from: CS111 on February 25, 2023, 08:38:30 pm

Something badly wrong throughout the team.
You'd nearly swear there is something personal wrong with TAA, he's looked weird all season, or else maybe people were right all along and he can't defend which was masked by the fact that we didn't have to defend much in seasons gone by

Haven’t seem him smile for ages like, it does look weird I have to say.

mainone · « **Reply #139 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:43:47 pm »

fuck off na yorha 2b

AmanShah21 · « **Reply #140 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:43:55 pm »

Trent needs competition. And serious competition, not a 36 year old or a 19 year old. The fact is he cant be benched right now because we dont have anyone to replace his quality and his performances mean he needs a rocket up his ass. I've defended him for most if the season but at this point I just dont know if he even wants to play right back anymore because he just switches off defensively. You can defend a mistake once in a while but its happening too often now. We can blame circumstances and players around him but he needs to do his bit to help himself which he isnt at the minute.

Nick110581 · « **Reply #141 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:44:16 pm »

Quote from: jillc on February 25, 2023, 08:42:43 pm

I believe the lack of legs is affecting the back line yes, otherwise how come so many mistakes by players are being made. Trent has made two today, Alisson had to take evasive action to get Matip out of trouble. You think everything is fine do you?

The midfield is nothing to do with basic errors

Draex · « **Reply #142 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:44:19 pm »

Quote from: mainone on February 25, 2023, 08:43:47 pm

fuck off na yorha 2b

I agree.

mainone · « **Reply #143 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:44:19 pm »

fuck off na yorha 2b

wampa1 · « **Reply #144 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:44:30 pm »

Quote from: jillc on February 25, 2023, 08:38:10 pm

All those having a go at Gomez it's the same whoever is playing at the back, the lacks of legs in the midfield is meaning they are constantly under pressure and that creates more mistakes from players as a result. Something worth remembering the next time people have a go at a player.

I'd legit prefer Gomez at RB right now.

Reflexivity · « **Reply #145 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:44:31 pm »

Father Trent and Father Joel need to stop that kind of thing. Craggy Island are still in this, maybe need to get Father Jack ready to twat the pair of gobshites.

Paul_h · « **Reply #146 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:44:41 pm »

one goal will do them ..

Haggis36 · « **Reply #147 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:44:55 pm »

Christ, what has happened to Matip? From one of the finest and most underrated CBs in the league for a good number of years, to an absolute bombscare. He's looked like this all season. All Palace have to do is keep attacking the right hand side of our defence, they'll get something.

This is the type of performance Keita regularly gets accused of even when he's been quite good, suppose it was only a matter of time before he gave the haters what they wanted. He looks like he's not particularly arsed which might explain why we haven't seen much of him in recent weeks I guess - hopefully we bring him off before he gets a second yellow.

The front three not in the game at all after a bright start, the midfield slow and ponderous, the defence gifting chances through individual errors. Can't quite put my finger on it, but it feels like I've seen this game before.

Motty · « **Reply #148 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:45:02 pm »

Quote from: Nick110581 on February 25, 2023, 08:33:23 pm

Is Trent pissed ?

More like Stoned I'd say.

El Lobo · « **Reply #149 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:45:10 pm »

naYoRHa2b the new ITK. Tell us about Nunez old art and design teacher

Eeyore · « **Reply #150 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:45:20 pm »

Quote from: jillc on February 25, 2023, 08:38:10 pm

All those having a go at Gomez it's the same whoever is playing at the back, the lacks of legs in the midfield is meaning they are constantly under pressure and that creates more mistakes from players as a result. Something worth remembering the next time people have a go at a player.

The hypocrisy of throwing the midfield players under the bus to defend the likes of Gomez is bizarre.

You can make a salient point about the defence not being protected which means the defence has less protection but that doesn't excuse certain players not doing the basics.

mainone · « **Reply #151 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:45:31 pm »

fuck off na yorha 2b

TepidT2O · « **Reply #152 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:45:39 pm »

Quote from: Paul_h on February 25, 2023, 08:44:41 pm

one goal will do them ..

Yes! Agree.. but we need to score it…

There chances are coming from our errors… but I can’t see those stopping really

TALBERT · « **Reply #153 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:45:41 pm »

1. Diaz
2. Alisson
3. Thiago
4. Nunez
5. Konate

Probably our 5 most important players - 4 happen to be out…

Virgil has had a stinker, so has Trent…

Fabinho has dropped so much in form

BornRedSince76 · « **Reply #154 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:45:45 pm »

God we don’t half make it hard for ourselves.

I love Hendo, his leadership and running has been brill over the years, but my word he has to be the least technically gifted captain we have ever seen. Why did he close the space where Trent was putting the ball for the free kick ffs?

KevLFC · « **Reply #155 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:45:46 pm »

Suppose people in the Keita thread will still say he played well. He's a 6 out of 10 player everytime I see him.

Pistolero · « **Reply #156 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:45:49 pm »

Quote from: mainone on February 25, 2023, 08:44:19 pm

fuck off na yorha 2b

This...

CS111 · « **Reply #157 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:46:06 pm »

Quote from: AmanShah21 on February 25, 2023, 08:43:55 pm

Trent needs competition. And serious competition, not a 36 year old or a 19 year old. The fact is he cant be benched right now because we dont have anyone to replace his quality and his performances mean he needs a rocket up his ass. I've defended him for most if the season but at this point I just dont know if he even wants to play right back anymore because he just switches off defensively. You can defend a mistake once in a while but its happening too often now. We can blame circumstances and players around him but he needs to do his bit to help himself which he isnt at the minute.

He looks slow as f aswell , doesn't look like he gives a shit. Don't know if the whole thing has went to his head but looks totally off all season to put it mildly.

Rosario · « **Reply #158 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:46:13 pm »

Quote from: jillc on February 25, 2023, 08:42:43 pm

I believe the lack of legs is affecting the back line yes, otherwise how come so many mistakes by players are being made. Trent has made two today, Alisson had to take evasive action to get Matip out of trouble. You think everything is fine do you?

I don’t think anyone thinks the back line is fine but it might hint that midfield and defence are in for a major rebuild over the next few windows.

Draex · « **Reply #159 on:** February 25, 2023, 08:46:17 pm »

We won 3 tackles that half, can’t say that’s helping!