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The incoming Tory Tax Cuts..

Brilliant! With everyone struggling at the moment, a few hundred quid would be most welcome
Maybe a small one, but money should be spent on failing public services
I am an egg and I like cheese and fluffy squirrels called Bob. Bob the Fluffy squirrel is my fave babes.
There shouldn't be a tax cut when public services are already so broken. Keep spending what we are
Far more investment is needed in this country. Spend the money where it's needed now and fuck this stupid Austerity shite.

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« Reply #31600 on: May 21, 2024, 01:29:25 pm »
Another day, another defeat

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-69043611
A victory for common sense.  I'm sure Esther McVey is delighted.

I remember that law coming in off the back of the Just Stop Oil protests last year and it was clear at the time that it was over-reaching and heavy handed.  Wilful obstruction of the highway has been an offence for decades so the police could have moved the protestors under existing laws (and, in most cases, did).  Reclassifying almost anything as "serious disruption" gave the police far too much power and there's not a police force in this country that I'd entrust with that much power.

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« Reply #31601 on: May 21, 2024, 01:41:35 pm »
A victory for common sense.  I'm sure Esther McVey is delighted.

I remember that law coming in off the back of the Just Stop Oil protests last year and it was clear at the time that it was over-reaching and heavy handed.  Wilful obstruction of the highway has been an offence for decades so the police could have moved the protestors under existing laws (and, in most cases, did).  Reclassifying almost anything as "serious disruption" gave the police far too much power and there's not a police force in this country that I'd entrust with that much power.

That was the Police and Crime bill, there was also the public order bill that was rushed through for the Coronation.
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« Reply #31602 on: May 21, 2024, 01:51:50 pm »
That was the Police and Crime bill, there was also the public order bill that was rushed through for the Coronation.
I've lost track  :o

All these new bills and the teenagers around here still terrorise the shop keepers with impunity and the boats still roll up on Kent beaches.  They won't win the Reform UK voters back like this!

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« Reply #31603 on: May 21, 2024, 06:24:10 pm »
Water companies wanting to hike bills between 25 and 91% over the next 5 years.  Sure, fine. As long as the money is matched by shareholders and they dont see a dividend for 20 years.
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« Reply #31604 on: May 21, 2024, 06:26:19 pm »
Water companies wanting to hike bills between 25 and 91% over the next 5 years.  Sure, fine. As long as the money is matched by shareholders and they dont see a dividend for 20 years.

When the time is right, Labour need to make more of this.
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« Reply #31605 on: May 21, 2024, 06:36:59 pm »
Water companies wanting to hike bills between 25 and 91% over the next 5 years.  Sure, fine. As long as the money is matched by shareholders and they dont see a dividend for 20 years.

One thing good about an election year is that the Tories are resisting any of this. Even things like reform of the universal service obligation, apparently Labour have stated they are willing to make changes with Royal Mail but the Tories have blatantly said no.

It will be up to Labour to make sure they resist this going forward.

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« Reply #31606 on: May 21, 2024, 06:45:56 pm »
Water companies wanting to hike bills between 25 and 91% over the next 5 years.  Sure, fine. As long as the money is matched by shareholders and they dont see a dividend for 20 years.

You think you're getting those turds in your fresh water supply for free? In this economy?

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« Reply #31607 on: May 22, 2024, 06:59:37 am »
Not even pretending that voter is isn’t voter suppression now

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« Reply #31608 on: May 22, 2024, 08:04:58 am »
Sunak is probably using his time left before calling a GE to prepare plans to block off London with the police and army when he declares the result null and void.
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« Reply #31609 on: May 22, 2024, 08:09:02 am »
Inflation down to 2.3%. Which is actually less than forecast.   

Now we need above inflation pay rises in order to get wages back to where they should be.

We will be perpetually worse off unless this happens
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« Reply #31610 on: May 22, 2024, 08:17:25 am »
Inflation down to 2.3%. Which is actually less than forecast.   

Too late to help the Tories.

Feels appropriate that while they have had to endure (at least partially self-inflicted) very tough economic conditions, Labour should be inheriting a situation where inflation is back under control and interest rates start to fall.

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« Reply #31611 on: May 22, 2024, 08:18:49 am »
Inflation down to 2.3%. Which is actually less than forecast.   

Now we need above inflation pay rises in order to get wages back to where they should be.

We will be perpetually worse off unless this happens

Posted this in the economy thread.

Inflation down to 2.3%

Tories obviously trying to spin it as their plan working..

But the inflation value is based on the average over the last April-April period. Inflation in March last year was 10.1% so those figures 'dropped off' the calculation meaning there was always going to be a drop.

And the standard 'Inflation doesn't mean things are getting cheaper, it just means prices are not rising as fast.'

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« Reply #31612 on: May 22, 2024, 10:06:26 am »
I know it's more a human interest story than a political one, but seeing what this Tory/UKIPper has been through, getting sepsis and losing parts of all four limbs, is just horrific.  I hope he can recover to the best possible state, but I guess it pushed me to think a little bit of the actual person behind the policies, and how I wouldn't wish things like this on anyone despite despising some of the views they hold.

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« Reply #31613 on: May 22, 2024, 10:13:07 am »
I know it's more a human interest story than a political one, but seeing what this Tory/UKIPper has been through, getting sepsis and losing parts of all four limbs, is just horrific.  I hope he can recover to the best possible state, but I guess it pushed me to think a little bit of the actual person behind the policies, and how I wouldn't wish things like this on anyone despite despising some of the views they hold.

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Horrible thing to happen - imagine what would have happened to him if we didn't have the NHS..........
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« Reply #31614 on: May 22, 2024, 10:14:13 am »
Horrible thing to happen - imagine what would have happened to him if we didn't have the NHS..........
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« Reply #31615 on: May 22, 2024, 10:23:11 am »
I know it's more a human interest story than a political one, but seeing what this Tory/UKIPper has been through, getting sepsis and losing parts of all four limbs, is just horrific.  I hope he can recover to the best possible state, but I guess it pushed me to think a little bit of the actual person behind the policies, and how I wouldn't wish things like this on anyone despite despising some of the views they hold.

My limbs were amputated after sepsis, says MP Craig Mackinlay

The worrying thing is that sepsis seems so difficult to trace. With other bacterial or viral infections the source is usually traced but with sepsis just seems to be viewed as ‘one if those things’.

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« Reply #31616 on: May 22, 2024, 10:23:57 am »
I'm finding it hard to muster up any sympathy or empathy for a man that has continually voted to make life harder for disabled people, the poor and the country in general.  Perhaps this will open his eyes to his failings in the past, if so then I'm glad and hope he enjoys his new found humanity.

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« Reply #31617 on: May 22, 2024, 10:27:10 am »
I'm finding it hard to muster up any sympathy or empathy for a man that has continually voted to make life harder for disabled people, the poor and the country in general.  Perhaps this will open his eyes to his failings in the past, if so then I'm glad and hope he enjoys his new found humanity.

Agree.

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« Reply #31618 on: May 22, 2024, 11:59:02 am »
I'm finding it hard to muster up any sympathy or empathy for a man that has continually voted to make life harder for disabled people, the poor and the country in general.  Perhaps this will open his eyes to his failings in the past, if so then I'm glad and hope he enjoys his new found humanity.

I doubt it mate when one of the first things he did was replace his NHS prosthetics for high tech bionic ones.

I have a client who had amniotic band syndrome whilst pregnant with her first child so her son was born with part of his right arm missing.

Having set up an amazing charity to help other limb different kids, they still had to raise over £25k to pay for a similar bionic arm for him.  They massively exceeded that amount meaning another 3 kids have also been fitted with one.

This prick's got enough cash to never need to or have to think about the hardships anyone else might be going through in similar circumstances.  Losing a few limbs won't make a jot of difference to his thoughts processes.


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« Reply #31619 on: May 22, 2024, 01:09:22 pm »
Agree.

Not holding my breath on him learning any humility and empathy from all this.

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« Reply #31620 on: May 22, 2024, 01:13:26 pm »
Inflation down to 2.3%. Which is actually less than forecast. 

Now we need above inflation pay rises in order to get wages back to where they should be.

We will be perpetually worse off unless this happens

It's higher than forecasted, it was forecast to come in at 2.1%.

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« Reply #31621 on: May 22, 2024, 01:39:12 pm »
Sunaks reaction to Zarah Sultanas question in PMQs today was fucking vile. Honestly, it's so blatantly obvious who the arseholes are in life. Yet idiots vote for them.

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« Reply #31622 on: May 22, 2024, 01:48:26 pm »
what did he say?
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« Reply #31623 on: May 22, 2024, 01:49:45 pm »
It's higher than forecasted, it was forecast to come in at 2.1%.

Source: https://www.ft.com/content/c17be87f-c7ff-426c-9679-18eedb1bdeb6
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« Reply #31624 on: May 22, 2024, 02:02:08 pm »
what did he say?

When she explained the atrocities and asked him if he'd stop selling arms, he quipped "nice to see the labour party has changed".

Who says that after hearing about the deaths of thousands?

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« Reply #31625 on: May 22, 2024, 02:10:50 pm »
The fall is less than forecast. Poor use of English on my part!

I regularly butcher the English language  ;D
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« Reply #31626 on: May 22, 2024, 02:30:30 pm »
maybe the wrong thread but anyhow ....

after seeing many headlines but glossing over them, last night I caught up with the Royal Mail - Mr Bates stuff.

wow.  holy shit. what a disgusting bunch of "human beings".

Bates is from Liverpool originally.  anyone know whereabouts?

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« Reply #31627 on: May 22, 2024, 06:25:17 pm »
maybe the wrong thread but anyhow ....

after seeing many headlines but glossing over them, last night I caught up with the Royal Mail - Mr Bates stuff.

wow.  holy shit. what a disgusting bunch of "human beings".

Bates is from Liverpool originally.  anyone know whereabouts?

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« Reply #31628 on: May 22, 2024, 11:00:46 pm »
When she explained the atrocities and asked him if he'd stop selling arms, he quipped "nice to see the labour party has changed".

Who says that after hearing about the deaths of thousands?

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« Reply #31629 on: May 23, 2024, 10:05:02 am »
a sociopath

As I said. So simple for me to see who the evil is. Yet...people still vote for them.

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« Reply #31630 on: May 24, 2024, 02:38:10 pm »
Quote from: Grant Shapps when asked about 75 Tory MPs standing down
You often get this illusion that there are more standing down from the governing side and of course the good reason for that is there are by definition more MPs on the governing side.
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Tory: 346 MPs.  75 standing down.  22%.
Labour: 205 MPs.  21 standing down (including the two recent defections from the Tories).  10%.

22 and 10 are the same number and if you think otherwise then you've fallen victim to the illusion.

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« Reply #31631 on: May 25, 2024, 09:29:17 am »
I'm still waiting for some interviewer to ask a Tory after 19 years of being told repeatedly, every.....single.....year....they put record amounts of money into the NHS and School and Police how come they are such a shittip now?

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« Reply #31632 on: May 25, 2024, 10:38:36 am »
I'm still waiting for some interviewer to ask a Tory after 19 years of being told repeatedly, every.....single.....year....they put record amounts of money into the NHS and School and Police how come they are such a shittip now?

Jeremy C*nt in the Telegraph saying inheritance tax is against Conservative values.

Well, if that is the case, your lit have had 14 years to replace or reform it.

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« Reply #31633 on: May 25, 2024, 12:58:45 pm »
Just read that the home office want to deport a one year old child, who was born in the UK, because her parents took her on a short holiday before having her visa status confirmed. The parents are both in the UK legally, but their one year old child is about to be deported.

The election can't come soon enough. Absolute fucking scumbags the lot of them.
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« Reply #31634 on: May 25, 2024, 01:11:18 pm »
Just read that the home office want to deport a one year old child, who was born in the UK, because her parents took her on a short holiday before having her visa status confirmed. The parents are both in the UK legally, but their one year old child is about to be deported.

The election can't come soon enough. Absolute fucking scumbags the lot of them.

Sounds like an idiotic case of box ticking rather than using a bit of common fucking sense. Sounds like they need a minister for that...
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« Reply #31635 on: May 25, 2024, 01:47:54 pm »
Sounds like an idiotic case of box ticking rather than using a bit of common fucking sense. Sounds like they need a minister for that...

So who is the Shadow Minister for Common Fucking Sense then?

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« Reply #31636 on: May 25, 2024, 02:33:57 pm »
So who is the Shadow Minister for Common Fucking Sense then?

The opposition are probably too sensible to need one tbf
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« Reply #31638 on: May 30, 2024, 09:29:35 am »
She needs booting that one. So desperate for attention she'll say or do almost anything now. Doesn't help that she has a dangerous lack of self awareness. I don't think she's mentally or emotionally competent to serve.
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« Reply #31639 on: May 30, 2024, 12:19:15 pm »
The former PM

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/liz-truss-rishi-sunak-lotus-eaters-jess-phillips-b2553613.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/sunak-urged-deselect-liz-truss-appearance-controversial-podcast/
I was arguing with someone over how tory the telegraph is 😁.  In its favour this story pops up in there with minimal searching. They could easily have not reported it.  Maybe even they arent fully behind the tories!
"All the lads have been talking about is walking out in front of the Kop, with 40,000 singing 'You'll Never Walk Alone'," Collins told BBC Radio Solent. "All the money in the world couldn't buy that feeling," he added.