Topic: Get out of our country yer gang of fucking bellends. TORIES OUT!

[Red Beret]

How can the Minister for Common Sense be complaining about a 'pointless job creation scheme'.

The entire Tory Party is a pointless job creation scheme. The electorate will finally show more common sense than the minister.

[oldfordie]

The entire Tory Party is a pointless job creation scheme. The electorate will finally show more common sense than the minister.

Brilliant reply, hope Labour start using it. McVey as well, she's dropped herself in it lots of times.

[So… Howard Philips]

Minister for common sense 

Sounds like a John Cleese role just before he was promoted to Minister for Silly Walks.

[TSC]

‘Lefty lawyers’ at it again?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-69001673

[TepidT2O]

Minister for common sense 

You can’t wear a rainbow lanyard? 
Yeah, good luck enforcing that.  I mean, any disciplinary for that would be laughable

[Kenny's Jacket]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/culture-war-rainbow-lanyard-ban-estger-mcvey-b2544061.html

Whats the stupid c*nt talking about? 

[Jiminy Cricket]

You can’t wear a rainbow lanyard? 
Yeah, good luck enforcing that.  I mean, any disciplinary for that would be laughable

I initially assumed that you were using a joke example. By since this comes from Ester McVey, 'Minister for Common Sense', I thought it best to look it up. McVey is a pitiful, fucking idiot.

[Kenny's Jacket]

I initially assumed that you were using a joke example. By since this comes from Ester McVey, 'Minister for Common Sense', I thought it best to look it up. McVey is a pitiful, fucking idiot.

I did exactly the same, hence my link above. Astonishing

[Kenny's Jacket]

When you consider the £billions they have wasted giving contracts to their mates not giving them to Stonewall is a fucking disgrace.

[Jiminy Cricket]

I did exactly the same, hence my link above. Astonishing

Your post crossed my looking it up and posting my reply. It is totally idiocy. I mean, pick your battles. But some like battles just for the sake of having them. People with personality disorders.

[west_london_red]

Well that's the problem, people will speculate without any proof, if the Torys thought they could publish it in full and damage Labour then they would have done it in a shot. the point is call their bluff, it's about answering their attacks of the country being unsafe in Labours hands.

Like I said, I suspect it’s a lot more damaging to the Tories than Labour.

[PaulF]

Like I said, I suspect it’s a lot more damaging to the Tories than Labour.

Not after it's been through the filter of the Tory media.

[oldfordie]

Like I said, I suspect it’s a lot more damaging to the Tories than Labour.

It has to be damaging for the Torys for many reasons but theres been so many things Labour can use to attack the Torys over the last few yrs, this has been one that's just faded away, I think I heard Chris Bryant demanding them to publish the report a few times. the only reason this is being brought up now is the Torys are trying to scare voters arguing the country's security isn't safe under Labour so they need to be reminded about the Russia Report to shut them up.

[PaulF]

Jrm saying its nit their fault....
https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/13/jacob-rees-mogg-accuses-bank-of-england-of-miserable-incompetence-over-inflation

[Lisan Al Gaib]

They sent out campaign emails today with everyone CC'd in instead of BCC'd so they might have a massive GDPR fine incoming for data breaches soon.

[So… Howard Philips]

If there was ever a need for the Minister of Common Sense to intervene this is it. Esther can don her marigolds, pick up the Fairy Liquid and a scourer and hot tail to Essex to sort this problem out;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjeww0ep89eo

 

[LuverlyRita]

When you consider the £billions they have wasted giving contracts to their mates not giving them to Stonewall is a fucking disgrace.

There's a terrible irony that the Minister For Common Sense has absolutely none of it and I'm sure that there's a splendid business opportunity for flogging rainbow ties and tank-tops 
Having said that, a number of institutions are currently reviewing their relationship with Stonewall and I think it's fair enough that the government do the same. Stonewall appear to have fallen into the trap of being hostile to critical review of their policies and that's always bad news - firstly because it means that you may not achieve your desired objectives but also that you bury your head in the sand re. negative side effects. I've heard some express the opinion that the trans-debate became toxic after Stonewall got involved. The Cass report has been critical of some policies advocated by Stonewall and some members of the gay community also appear to be distancing themselves from the organisation.  So perhaps it is time to ask if the organisation is still a suitable source of advice.

[Riquende]

If there was ever a need for the Minister of Common Sense to intervene this is it. Esther can don her marigolds, pick up the Fairy Liquid and a scourer and hot tail to Essex to sort this problem out;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjeww0ep89eo

 

Typical Tory snowflake trying to cancel people just using their freedom of speech.

Also "Arscott", what a name.

[So… Howard Philips]

Typical Tory snowflake trying to cancel people just using their freedom of speech.

Also "Arscott", what a name.

Call the Bottom Inspectors!

[Kenny's Jacket]

There's a terrible irony that the Minister For Common Sense has absolutely none of it and I'm sure that there's a splendid business opportunity for flogging rainbow ties and tank-tops 
Having said that, a number of institutions are currently reviewing their relationship with Stonewall and I think it's fair enough that the government do the same. Stonewall appear to have fallen into the trap of being hostile to critical review of their policies and that's always bad news - firstly because it means that you may not achieve your desired objectives but also that you bury your head in the sand re. negative side effects. I've heard some express the opinion that the trans-debate became toxic after Stonewall got involved. The Cass report has been critical of some policies advocated by Stonewall and some members of the gay community also appear to be distancing themselves from the organisation.  So perhaps it is time to ask if the organisation is still a suitable source of advice.

Those who are distancing themselves tend to be the anti trans lot - the LGBAlliance and the like.  Stonewall isnt perfect, Even Jurgen Klopp fails to live to that standard, but they are a lot more worthy of government contracts than Michelle Mone or Matt Hancocks pub landlord. 

[LuverlyRita]

Those who are distancing themselves tend to be the anti trans lot - the LGBAlliance and the like.  Stonewall isnt perfect, Even Jurgen Klopp fails to live to that standard, but they are a lot more worthy of government contracts than Michelle Mone or Matt Hancocks pub landlord.

Michelle Mone and Matt Hancock's landlord should never have been given government contracts but that is no basis for suggesting Stonewall should. Much of the recent distancing has been prompted by the Cass report which has highlighted some dangerous and ill-thought out practices which Stonewall have supported.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Exactly, yes the anti trans movement.   

My original post was to suggested that given the amount of money wasted by Tory cronyism Stonewall should be nowhere near the top of the "banned" list

As 30p Lee pointed out this is just more culture war shit.

[thaddeus]

Exactly, yes the anti trans movement.   

My original post was to suggested that given the amount of money wasted by Tory cronyism Stonewall should be nowhere near the top of the "banned" list

As 30p Lee pointed out this is just more culture war shit.

Lee Anderson called out culture wars in politics?!  That's his bread and butter.  Maybe being anti-culture wars is the new grift.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Lee Anderson called out culture wars in politics?!  That's his bread and butter.  Maybe being anti-culture wars is the new grift.

You must remember it ?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lee-anderson-tories-election-trans-b2282185.html

[thaddeus]

You must remember it ?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lee-anderson-tories-election-trans-b2282185.html

Ahhh.  He was advocating for culture wars nonsense in politics.

Sorry, I completely misread your previous message.  In some ways it's quite reassuring to know that he's as one dimensional as I'd always pictured him.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Ahhh.  He was advocating for culture wars nonsense in politics.

Sorry, I completely misread your previous message.  In some ways it's quite reassuring to know that he's as one dimensional as I'd always pictured him.

Looking back it was badly phased on my behalf. Should have called upon, not called out

[So… Howard Philips]

Looking back it was badly phased on my behalf. Should have called upon, not called out

Confused me too.

Thought Lee had enjoyed an Elphickesque conversion for a mo.

[TepidT2O]

Confused me too.

Thought Lee had enjoyed an Elphickesque conversion for a mo.

Anderson is a former labour party member who worked for his local labour mp for some time.

His damascene conversion might not be as drastic as you imagine!

[Jiminy Cricket]

Anderson is a former labour party member who worked for his local labour mp for some time.

His damascene conversion might not be as drastic as you imagine!

Hang on. Is there serious talk of Anderson crossing The Floor, again!? Or is this idle speculation at RAWK? Churchill, he is not!

[So… Howard Philips]

Anderson is a former labour party member who worked for his local labour mp for some time.

His damascene conversion might not be as drastic as you imagine!

He’s a prime candidate for conversion therapy.

Or exorcism.

[west_london_red]

Another win for the Tories, average length of a first time mortgage now up to 32 years, combined with people now buying a home at a later age means that 42% of mortgages at the end of 2023 run past the homeowner’s retirement age (which will only increase). What they have done to my generation (to be fair there’s not many they have spared) is absolutely unforgivable, not only have they fucked most of our working lives, their legacy will continue to fuck us into retirement.

[reddebs]

Another win for the Tories, average length of a first time mortgage now up to 32 years, combined with people now buying a home at a later age means that 42% of mortgages at the end of 2023 run past the homeowner’s retirement age (which will only increase). What they have done to my generation (to be fair there’s not many they have spared) is absolutely unforgivable, not only have they fucked most of our working lives, their legacy will continue to fuck us into retirement.

When my son and his partner bought their current home 3yrs ago they had to show proof of pension provision as the mortgage extended beyond their retirement age. 

[west_london_red]

When my son and his partner bought their current home 3yrs ago they had to show proof of pension provision as the mortgage extended beyond their retirement age. 

It seems to have become the norm now unfortunately, I guess it explains the push to make sure everyone has a workplace pension… got keep those property prices inflated.

[reddebs]

It seems to have become the norm now unfortunately, I guess it explains the push to make sure everyone has a workplace pension… got keep those property prices inflated.

Yeah it's crazy mate, I'd never saddle myself with that amount of debt especially when you'll most likely be dead before you've paid for it.

[Red-Soldier]

When my son and his partner bought their current home 3yrs ago they had to show proof of pension provision as the mortgage extended beyond their retirement age.

Arseholes.

[TepidT2O]

I mean good luck to them. Mine is so complex that I literally have no idea how much I might earn when I retire. It’s like reading a 321 clue

[TepidT2O]

Serious malfunction of the Rishibot on Loose Women today.

Who THE FUCK thought it was a good idea to put him on that? His campaign team must be absolutely insane.

[Red-Soldier]

Serious malfunction of the Rishibot on Loose Women today.

Who THE FUCK thought it was a good idea to put him on that? His campaign team must be absolutely insane.

The Daily Mail get their main headlines from there, and vice versa.  It's a right-wing mouthpiece.

[west_london_red]

The Daily Mail get their main headlines from there, and vice versa.  It's a right-wing mouthpiece.

How would one know that without watching it?

[Lusty]

Serious malfunction of the Rishibot on Loose Women today.

Who THE FUCK thought it was a good idea to put him on that? His campaign team must be absolutely insane.

He's going to be amazing on the campaign trail.  Will make Ed Milliband look normal.