Topic: The Murder of George Floyd and Black Lives Matter.

[rafathegaffa83]

Virgil van Dijk is getting a lot of shit about this on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/VirgilvDijk/status/1267454825538695168
People are pointing to the Suarez shirt protest and there is even a post saying "@LFC a club that only remembers the past when it suits them #alwaythevictims "

Same type of dickheads were complaining that we hadn't said anything about it. You can't win with people like that who just want to complain.

[FlashingBlade]

one day you'll go see the real world. Not a peep from these white liberals and blacks when their kids were drop kicking 80 year old chinese women in bus stops. Did the Chinese riot like these people? We all know teh answer

So how you feel about todays anniversary?

[Harinder]

Hold on a wee second. A turd needs flushed.

Flushed

Back to rewatching this time last year in Madrid

[Lush is the best medicine...]

https://twitter.com/balleralert/status/1267305134205341697?s=21

Not really a shock this from abloh, least it’s more than what’s come from the likes of Kanye and mayweather, even if a binder clip from off white costs double this

[Ray K]

BREAKING: Independent autopsy finds that George Floyd's death "was homicide caused by asphyxia due to neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain."


Wow, I'm absolutely shocked to find out that he didn't die due to a bad case of the hiccups, or whatever the first coroner said.

[12C]

More soothing words from Dear Leader in a time of crisis

Ed O'Keefe@edokeefe
JUST IN: President Trump unloads on the nation's governors on a call, calls on them to step up enforcement: "You have to dominate, if you don’t dominate you’re wasting your time. They’re going to run over you, you’re going to look like a bunch of jerks. You have to dominate."

Kevin Robillard@Robillard
Trump is now telling the governors they should pass laws criminalizing the burning of the American flag. “We have a different court. It’s time to review that again,” Trump said, according to a source. “If you wanted to try a very powerful anti-flag burning law, we’ll back you.”

Wasn’t it the confederate flag that was being burned?

[rafathegaffa83]

More calming words from Members of Congress

Matt Gaetz@mattgaetz
Now that we clearly see Antifa as terrorists, can we hunt them down like we do those in the Middle East?

And members of his cabinet

Meredith Lee@meredithllee
Trump & Defense Sec Esper encouraged govs to ask for more National Guard troops, noting bulk still hasn't been called out.

Esper: "the sooner" states "dominate" "the battle space..the quicker this dissipates."

[Sammy5IsAlive]

Just another point regarding looting. A lot of people are saying what is the looting of small businesses going to achieve in regards to advancing the position of black people in American society, or aiding the cause of Black Lives Matter etc. Obviously nothing.

But we are talking about maybe the most materialistic culture on earth here, with this rampant and frankly obscene consumerism combined with a huge and ever increasing wealth gap. Many countries experience looting in certain instances of civil breakdown, but it seems to be the go to in nearly all instances of US civil breakdown. People looting shops are probably not thinking "How is this going to serve the cause" (in fact seemingly many of them are not even African American in the first place). They are probably thinking (consciously or unconsciously) "what shit can I grab that I normally can't afford or wouldn't buy" or "oh shit if I don't grab it someone else will", after being bombarded by advertisements 24/7 since early childhood and being raised in a culture which relentlessly pushes the belief that material stuff is the route to happiness or satisfaction. The individual is king and dog eat dog is the way of social advancement.

My point being that while looting is not directly related to the cause of Black Lives Matter, nor does it serve it in any way, it is symbolic of another deeply fucked up and sick aspect of US and by-extension Western society and culture. Sitting on the side lines from the outside and saying people should stop looting is as pointless as saying people shouldn't be burning things, because it is not a particularly rational thought process. However it is one following this strain of materialism to its logical conclusion.

Trumps Presidency, and especially these riots, might just symbolise the tipping point in which US soft power is irreversibly damaged and the rest of the world starts to realise that this is not the kind of society or culture that we want to imitate anymore.

Re. looting - I think you're over-thinking it slightly to be honest. I don't think it is a particularly recent or US-centric phenomenon. When the rule of law breaks down for whatever reasons a certain proportion of people will go out to get what they can. 

[Welshred]

More calming words from Members of Congress

Matt Gaetz@mattgaetz
Now that we clearly see Antifa as terrorists, can we hunt them down like we do those in the Middle East?

And members of his cabinet

So they'll be sending the airforce in to bomb the shit out of their own cities?

[Elmo!]

So they'll be sending the airforce in to bomb the shit out of their own cities?

Well there are protests going on around the White House right? With any luck.....

[Port_vale_lad]

Absolutely nothing will be achieved.
Absolutely nothing will change.

[rafathegaffa83]

So they'll be sending the airforce in to bomb the shit out of their own cities?

At least one Senator would like to see something like that

Tom Cotton@TomCottonAR
Anarchy, rioting, and looting needs to end tonight. If local law enforcement is overwhelmed and needs backup, let's see how tough these Antifa terrorists are when they're facing off with the 101st Airborne Division. We need to have zero tolerance for this destruction

Tom Cotton@TomCottonAR
And, if necessary, the 10th Mountain, 82nd Airborne, 1st Cav, 3rd Infantry—whatever it takes to restore order. No quarter for insurrectionists, anarchists, rioters, and looters.

[gallden]

The police are having a fucking ball out there. They can't wait for their shift to start.

My wife's brother is a homicide detective right outside of Washington DC.

He has to work tonight from 4pm to 12am. 

 I can tell you he is not having a "fucking ball out there"

[Welshred]

Fuck-ing-hell that's all kinds of fucked up

[Gnurglan]

Absolutely nothing will be achieved.
Absolutely nothing will change.

We'll see. Remember there were lots of protests around the world before the virus. It's widespread even if we think it's all about recent events. The spark was the killing of Floyd, but I think this runs a lot deeper and as such this could be the time when change takes place.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

On another note, the turd that was on here earlier, needs to find a different club to support.

[FlashGordon]

BREAKING: Independent autopsy finds that George Floyd's death "was homicide caused by asphyxia due to neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain."


Wow, I'm absolutely shocked to find out that he didn't die due to a bad case of the hiccups, or whatever the first coroner said.

Whoever filed the initial autopsy needs to be named and shamed. Then he/she needs to be fired and face criminal charges. Anyone else associated with it needs to meet the same fate.

[Macphisto80]

Flushed

Back to rewatching this time last year in Madrid

Cheers for that. That one got through the cracks somehow.

[Buggy Eyes Alfredo]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but this is amazing in so many different ways.

https://twitter.com/NicsMonique/status/1267387845469245440?s=20

It is brilliant. I had posted and then subsequently deleted it after finding out this event was a year ago.

[The North Bank]

This crisis is exposing so many American politicians as right wing racist war mongering mad men.

[RobbieRedman]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1267550007386832896

"Right now. #Atlanta Police kneeling with protesters in solidarity"

[Kashinoda]

Well, if there's one thing the two issues have in common, it's how colonial imperialism has fucked up another part of the world. The thing is, what I often see being neglected with the Hong Kong problem whenever people argue for it, is that Hong Kong is Chinese. It was never sovereign. The gobshites doing the rioting over there need to accept that.

Might be the worst take of this entire thread.

[killer-heels]

This crisis is exposing so many American politicians as right wing racist war mongering mad men.

I think we all knew that is what the Republicans and their voters were.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

I think we all knew that is what the Republicans and their voters were.

yup, many of their stances on Iran is a good example

[Macphisto80]

It is brilliant. I had posted and then subsequently deleted it after finding out this event was a year ago.

It was? Well, either way, it's still relevant.

Might be the worst take of this entire thread.

That's not a take on anything. That's a fact. Hong Kong got handed back to the Chinese 23 years ago.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

It was? Well, either way, it's still relevant.
That's not a take on anything. That's a fact. Hong Kong got handed back to the Chinese 23 years ago.

Calling them gobshites? Did they have a choice in the matter ?

[Kashinoda]

That's not a take on anything. That's a fact. Hong Kong got handed back to the Chinese 23 years ago.

It is a take, the situation in Hong Kong is complicated as hell. It's a special autonomous region governed by the 'one country, two systems' principle.

We gave Hong Kong back and signed a treaty with China stipulate the sovereign and administrative arrangement of the region for the next 50 years - this is built into their constitution (Basid Law). This basic law includes things like universal suffrage.

They are now violating this treaty to such an extent that home office is now offering the right to abode in the UK for half the population of Hong Kong, this has all happened within the last week or so.

China like to think they own everything, Taiwan, Tibet, Xinjiang, you name it. Sticking in flag in the ground the same way the British Empire did. If you keep going back in time most countries can make a claim on anything.

[B0151?]

Okay I'm not sure I want to read this thread if the first thing I see is calling Hong Kong protestors gobshites  What

[Mumm-Ra]

It is brilliant. I had posted and then subsequently deleted it after finding out this event was a year ago.

I fucking hate it when people post old stuff on Twitter as though it just happened

[Gerry Attrick]

It was? Well, either way, it's still relevant.
That's not a take on anything. That's a fact. Hong Kong got handed back to the Chinese 23 years ago.

This is genuinely a mental post. You're talking about Hong Kong as if it's just a commodity that was involved in a transaction. Maybe people in Hong Kong don't want to live under a totally oppressive regime? Loads of the world was once ruled by Britain. Should they have just accepted it in perpetuity? I always thought self determination was a good thing, maybe you're making me see the error of my ways. I might acquiesce to whatever the Government in Britain wishes.

[rafathegaffa83]

At least one Senator would like to see something like that

Tom Cotton@TomCottonAR
Anarchy, rioting, and looting needs to end tonight. If local law enforcement is overwhelmed and needs backup, let's see how tough these Antifa terrorists are when they're facing off with the 101st Airborne Division. We need to have zero tolerance for this destruction

Tom Cotton@TomCottonAR
And, if necessary, the 10th Mountain, 82nd Airborne, 1st Cav, 3rd Infantry—whatever it takes to restore order. No quarter for insurrectionists, anarchists, rioters, and looters.

Now endorsed by Dear Leader

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
100% Correct. Thank you Tom!

[Gnurglan]

Military police arriving at the White House. Lots of people protest near the WH. Let's hope people can avoid doing some bad stuff.

[Red Viper]

How about we keep on topic eh?

Anyone wanting to help out in any way they can with the BLM cause can start here.

https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/

I've signed a few petitions and made a donation. Feels about as much as I can do from over here.

[OOS]

Military police arriving at the White House. Lots of people protest near the WH. Let's hope people police can avoid doing some bad stuff.

Fixed it.

[RedSince86]

Flatmate’s just told me that 40% of police officers in the US have a history of domestic violence. That is grim. That’s self-reported too.

Whats the percentage of those in the Police who served during the War On Terror.

Watching the footage of them dealing with protesters, gives me flashbacks to seeing footage while the USA occupied Iraq.

[Kekule]

More calming words from Members of Congress

Matt Gaetz@mattgaetz
Now that we clearly see Antifa as terrorists, can we hunt them down like we do those in the Middle East?

 

Seeing as Antifa isn’t an organisation, so no-one strictly speaking can belong to it, doesn’t this mean that he just wants to have the government to hunt down citizens that have a different view, and who might want to act on it? Now where have we heard that before?

I know he’s not the brightest spark, but by saying that out loud/on Twitter, he’s kind of making Antifa’s point for them, isn’t he?

[24/7]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-52876899/george-floyd-death-tanker-driven-at-us-protesters-in-minneapolis

Tanker driven at high speed towards protesters. Driver stops. Must be on a suicide mission - or too young to remember 1992.......

Amazed he got out of there alive - even more amazed he didn't mow down dozens.

Someone else posted on the Il Douche thread that five years ago he'd have laughed at the idea of Civil War in the US - now I'm thinking I'll be astounded if it DOESN'T happen should that fuckin fat orange turd be re-elected.

[24/7]

Now endorsed by Dear Leader

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
100% Correct. Thank you Tom!

How wonderfully encouraging that the so-called greatest democracy on earth is preparing to send it's own troops against its citizens on home soil.

Fascism.

No two ways about it.

[Gnurglan]

Fixed it.

In this case both sides will need to stay civilized. It would be incredibly stupid to try any kind of attack on the police outside the WH. Fortunately people seem to be alright. Even the police.

[Gnurglan]

How wonderfully encouraging that the so-called greatest democracy on earth is preparing to send it's own troops against its citizens on home soil.

Fascism.

No two ways about it.

Agree. I hope they're not that stupid.