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« Reply #67160 on: December 23, 2021, 11:12:05 am »
Pretty sure it will be the latter.

We're heading to a time where you won't need to isolate at all unless you have symptoms IMO. Probably still a year or so away from that but that's the only way we can ever properly move on and workforces can cope.
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« Reply #67161 on: December 23, 2021, 11:12:35 am »
It'll be picking up trace elements of the virus in your nose. Very unlikely you are still contagious.

Cheers

Covid can stay inside for about 30 days which is why they say don't test, once you've had it. You are just going to come out being positive. Do you have any symptoms still such as coughing or a sore throat if you do, maybe keep isolating until they have disappeared.

No mate, no symptoms (I had maybe, maybe a bit of a sore throat but that's pretty much gone)

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« Reply #67162 on: December 23, 2021, 11:21:23 am »
Cheers

No mate, no symptoms (I had maybe, maybe a bit of a sore throat but that's pretty much gone)

That's good.
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« Reply #67163 on: December 23, 2021, 11:28:14 am »
NHS website says not to test for 90 days after a positive PCR. I've been adhering to that, assuming you may still get a positive when you're uncontagious. Why I don't understand the government guidelines about being able to leave isolation after seven days and two clear tests. It contradicts their own advice about not doing them.

That’s PCR testing. You can still LFT test. LFT tests pick up the infectious bit. PCR can detect “dead” virus matter. You shed dead bits of virus for weeks after you are no longer infectious - which causes positive PCR tests.

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« Reply #67164 on: December 23, 2021, 11:32:58 am »
So what a few months I’ve had!

Tested positive at the start of October and got quite poorly with it, also lost my sense of smell and taste for weeks.

Then was off to a wedding last weekend so did a PCR just to be sure, tested negative. Then ahead of seeing my 85 year old grandma on Christmas Day did an LFT Tuesday and tested positive. Did a PCR and it confirms I have it again! I have zero symptoms this time but means a Christmas completely on my own which is a bummer. Still glad I did the test though instead of potentially infecting the family

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« Reply #67165 on: December 23, 2021, 11:33:46 am »
The flow-flex self testing kit is good as you only have to do the nostrils now and the waiting time is down to fifteen minutes rather than half an hour. At long last, I can get my booster done now.  :)
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« Reply #67166 on: December 23, 2021, 11:35:49 am »
So what a few months I’ve had!

Tested positive at the start of October and got quite poorly with it, also lost my sense of smell and taste for weeks.

Then was off to a wedding last weekend so did a PCR just to be sure, tested negative. Then ahead of seeing my 85 year old grandma on Christmas Day did an LFT Tuesday and tested positive. Did a PCR and it confirms I have it again! I have zero symptoms this time but means a Christmas completely on my own which is a bummer. Still glad I did the test though instead of potentially infecting the family

Jeez that is such bad luck mate. I wonder if you had the delta once last time and have maybe picked up the new strain which is doing the rounds? Look after yourself, did you have the vaccinations?
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« Reply #67167 on: December 23, 2021, 11:38:15 am »
Our Christmas drinks today, I’ve asked all my staff (only 15) to take a Lateral flow before we meet up, all but two agreed.  The two flat out refused and were offended I asked, despite the fact that I’m paying for the whole lot.  I’ve left it up to my staff whether they worked from home or not, most did, popping into the office perhaps once a week.  I haven’t communicated with these two other than via email, I have no idea about their vaccination status.  I’m half tempted to tell them not to show up, have no idea about the ramifications though.  My missus told me to let it be, but it’s really wound me up.

Am I being out of order here ?

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« Reply #67168 on: December 23, 2021, 11:42:55 am »
Our Christmas drinks today, I’ve asked all my staff (only 15) to take a Lateral flow before we meet up, all but two agreed.  The two flat out refused and were offended I asked, despite the fact that I’m paying for the whole lot.  I’ve left it up to my staff whether they worked from home or not, most did, popping into the office perhaps once a week.  I haven’t communicated with these two other than via email, I have no idea about their vaccination status.  I’m half tempted to tell them not to show up, have no idea about the ramifications though.  My missus told me to let it be, but it’s really wound me up.

Am I being out of order here ?

No your not. That's the problem, you use your common sense and one of these high and mighty people object and make you feel the bad one. If you are organising the event it's up to those people to respect the rules. I know it's hard though. Where I work we have a strict mask wearing procedure when we're in the office, but the section downstairs don't wear masks at all. The idiot who runs them loves to come upstairs and cough "for a laugh." It really winds me up.
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« Reply #67169 on: December 23, 2021, 11:49:07 am »
Our Christmas drinks today, I’ve asked all my staff (only 15) to take a Lateral flow before we meet up, all but two agreed.  The two flat out refused and were offended I asked, despite the fact that I’m paying for the whole lot.  I’ve left it up to my staff whether they worked from home or not, most did, popping into the office perhaps once a week.  I haven’t communicated with these two other than via email, I have no idea about their vaccination status.  I’m half tempted to tell them not to show up, have no idea about the ramifications though.  My missus told me to let it be, but it’s really wound me up.

Am I being out of order here ?

Tell them not to show up

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« Reply #67170 on: December 23, 2021, 11:57:07 am »
Tell them they can show up if they like, but they have to pay their own way.
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« Reply #67171 on: December 23, 2021, 12:00:45 pm »
Our Christmas drinks today, I’ve asked all my staff (only 15) to take a Lateral flow before we meet up, all but two agreed.  The two flat out refused and were offended I asked, despite the fact that I’m paying for the whole lot.  I’ve left it up to my staff whether they worked from home or not, most did, popping into the office perhaps once a week.  I haven’t communicated with these two other than via email, I have no idea about their vaccination status.  I’m half tempted to tell them not to show up, have no idea about the ramifications though.  My missus told me to let it be, but it’s really wound me up.

Am I being out of order here ?

No you are not.  If they won't take the test then they should not attend, its that simple.  What about the welfare of your other staff?   If I was one of the staff taking the test and I found out about this I would be furious.
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« Reply #67172 on: December 23, 2021, 12:03:36 pm »
No you are not.  If they won't take the test then they should not attend, its that simple.  What about the welfare of your other staff?   If I was one of the staff taking the test and I found out about this I would be furious.

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« Reply #67173 on: December 23, 2021, 12:07:27 pm »
Our Christmas drinks today, I’ve asked all my staff (only 15) to take a Lateral flow before we meet up, all but two agreed.  The two flat out refused and were offended I asked, despite the fact that I’m paying for the whole lot.  I’ve left it up to my staff whether they worked from home or not, most did, popping into the office perhaps once a week.  I haven’t communicated with these two other than via email, I have no idea about their vaccination status.  I’m half tempted to tell them not to show up, have no idea about the ramifications though.  My missus told me to let it be, but it’s really wound me up.

Am I being out of order here ?

Tell them they can turn up but have to wear a mask. They won't turn up.

Nah to be honest you're well within your right to deny them entry if you've said all are required to take an LFT.

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« Reply #67174 on: December 23, 2021, 12:11:10 pm »
Tell them to turn up at a really swanky restaurant. But not the one you are at.
Or just say the venue is insisting on tests.
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« Reply #67175 on: December 23, 2021, 12:14:49 pm »
One of my friends on social media mentioned getting vaccinated and wearing masks and it's a battleground now with people giving her dogs abuse.

I always think that thick anti-vax shitheaads are fairly rare, but I think that's because I disowned and fucked off every Tory/Brexiter/Conspiracy dickhead I found as I found them, but it seems there are more than a few out there.

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« Reply #67176 on: December 23, 2021, 12:15:42 pm »
Jeez that is such bad luck mate. I wonder if you had the delta once last time and have maybe picked up the new strain which is doing the rounds? Look after yourself, did you have the vaccinations?
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« Reply #67177 on: December 23, 2021, 12:16:51 pm »
Cheers pal,

Yeah been vaccinated twice and was due to have my booster yesterday but obviously can’t now

That's bad luck, but it's happened to a few of us now. You can still book the booster I think but just leave it for 28 days after the negative test.
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« Reply #67178 on: December 23, 2021, 12:19:30 pm »
Are most of them low level anti vax people ( not the ones that profit from it) just attention seekers? And the more you spend time trying to debate with them, the more they soak it up?
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« Reply #67179 on: December 23, 2021, 12:20:26 pm »
Any idea why I might still be testing positive on a LFT despite first testing positive almost 14 days ago? Am I likely to still be contagious? I had two negative PCR tests a week or so ago as well, further compounding my confusion...

(I've had no symptoms at all at any stage)
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« Reply #67180 on: December 23, 2021, 12:26:05 pm »
Are most of them low level anti vax people ( not the ones that profit from it) just attention seekers? And the more you spend time trying to debate with them, the more they soak it up?

This is it in a nutshell. Social media and all the 'causes' it supports simply gives a bunch of sad cases the opportunity to feel important.

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« Reply #67181 on: December 23, 2021, 12:26:51 pm »
NHS website says not to test for 90 days after a positive PCR. I've been adhering to that, assuming you may still get a positive when you're uncontagious. Why I don't understand the government guidelines about being able to leave isolation after seven days and two clear tests. It contradicts their own advice about not doing them.
The 90 days was introduced a long time ago as a very small proportion of people can stay positive for weeks after - like a really small proportion. For the vast majority they’ll give a negative test after 7-10 days via PCR. The proportion that would test positive by LFT 7-10 days after is even smaller.

The 90 day window is overruled with the onset of any new symptoms - you’d test again even within that 90 day window.

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« Reply #67182 on: December 23, 2021, 12:29:58 pm »
Our Christmas drinks today, I’ve asked all my staff (only 15) to take a Lateral flow before we meet up, all but two agreed.  The two flat out refused and were offended I asked, despite the fact that I’m paying for the whole lot.  I’ve left it up to my staff whether they worked from home or not, most did, popping into the office perhaps once a week.  I haven’t communicated with these two other than via email, I have no idea about their vaccination status.  I’m half tempted to tell them not to show up, have no idea about the ramifications though.  My missus told me to let it be, but it’s really wound me up.

Am I being out of order here ?

Is it a work do, and are you their boss? You're responsible for their H&S, and you get to do the risk assessment (aka make up the rules). If you say they need to have a negative LFT, thats it. Tell them they can't come.
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« Reply #67183 on: December 23, 2021, 12:30:58 pm »
Positive Lateral flow test this morning so straight up the test centre to get a PCR done. Have a sore throat and cough as of this morning so pretty certain it will be positive!

Wife not happy as we were supposed to be going to her brothers tomorrow for Christmas and thats all off now.

Fortunately we had been buying stuff to have a meal just in case something went wrong ahead of going tomorrow so should be able to put something decent together for Saturday.

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« Reply #67184 on: December 23, 2021, 12:32:45 pm »
Positive Lateral flow test this morning so straight up the test centre to get a PCR done. Have a sore throat and cough as of this morning so pretty certain it will be positive!

Wife not happy as we were supposed to be going to her brothers tomorrow for Christmas and thats all off now.

Fortunately we had been buying stuff to have a meal just in case something went wrong ahead of going tomorrow so should be able to put something decent together for Saturday.

That's bad luck, take care.
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« Reply #67185 on: December 23, 2021, 12:35:12 pm »
Positive Lateral flow test this morning so straight up the test centre to get a PCR done. Have a sore throat and cough as of this morning so pretty certain it will be positive!

Wife not happy as we were supposed to be going to her brothers tomorrow for Christmas and thats all off now.

Fortunately we had been buying stuff to have a meal just in case something went wrong ahead of going tomorrow so should be able to put something decent together for Saturday.

Ha! Been doing exactly the same as we're due to go to my daughter's on Xmas day but are testing every day at the mo.

The only 'emergency ration' we haven't got are pigs in blankets but well stocked for stuffing and wine

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« Reply #67186 on: December 23, 2021, 12:37:45 pm »
Is the reduction to seven days based on some new science? Or because we can't afford to keep staff out for ten days?

I have seen some figures that suggest Omicron peaks earlier/quicker than previous variants.
But since people wouldnt know which variant they have, and there's still plenty of non-Omicron, I guess it is the latter.

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« Reply #67187 on: December 23, 2021, 12:45:53 pm »
The 90 days was introduced a long time ago as a very small proportion of people can stay positive for weeks after - like a really small proportion. For the vast majority they’ll give a negative test after 7-10 days via PCR. The proportion that would test positive by LFT 7-10 days after is even smaller.

The 90 day window is overruled with the onset of any new symptoms - you’d test again even within that 90 day window.

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« Reply #67188 on: December 23, 2021, 12:47:06 pm »
Is the reduction to seven days based on some new science? Or because we can't afford to keep staff out for ten days?

TBF it's not just a straight reduction, you still have to show two neg tests before you don't have to do the full 10. Seems sensible to me.

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« Reply #67189 on: December 23, 2021, 01:39:41 pm »
The NHS is under stress, say nothing of the fact that they have been at the forefront of this covid fight for the last couple of years. People need to open their eyes and understand the stress that these people operate under. They get abused, they have people comparing them to the ruddy Nazi's. They then have to watch as these people who have been conned into believing the vaccines are "bad for you" die in front of them, while people beg for a vaccine and they can do nothing about it. People take these (not saying you do) people for granted over and over and it's just wrong. I know a lot of people do not like social media, but try following some of the accounts of doctors and nurses and what they have to now put up with, as they do their job. It's harrowing.
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« Reply #67190 on: December 23, 2021, 02:30:23 pm »
fuck me. the booster has absolutely flattened me. didn't feel like this with my two Novavax jabs.  :butt
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« Reply #67191 on: December 23, 2021, 02:31:26 pm »
fuck me. the booster has absolutely flattened me. didn't feel like this with my two Novavax jabs.  :butt

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« Reply #67192 on: December 23, 2021, 03:16:38 pm »
Is it a work do, and are you their boss? You're responsible for their H&S, and you get to do the risk assessment (aka make up the rules). If you say they need to have a negative LFT, thats it. Tell them they can't come.

10000%

As you say what about being responsible for the other staff members who are taking precautions so that everyone can have a nice meet up without infecting anyone or risking putting people in isolation over Christmas.

If I had a boss and found out he had allowed people to attend a meet up without being tested when I had been asked to be tested I would be fuming.

So yeah another tick in the column of telling them to stay at home from me.

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« Reply #67193 on: December 23, 2021, 03:16:44 pm »
Great post.

Really is

So thankful my mum has retired from being an intensive care nurse. The strain people must be under, even without the abuse, is enormous.

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« Reply #67194 on: December 23, 2021, 03:18:45 pm »
10000%

As you say what about being responsible for the other staff members who are taking precautions so that everyone can have a nice meet up without infecting anyone or risking putting people in isolation over Christmas.

If I had a boss and found out he had allowed people to attend a meet up without being tested when I had been asked to be tested I would be fuming.

So yeah another tick in the column of telling them to stay at home from me.

yeah have to confess to knowing nothing about employment law, so I'm no use there, but looking out for your staff should take precedent over keeping things squared away/avoiding conflict with the two who are unwilling to look out for their colleagues.

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« Reply #67195 on: December 23, 2021, 03:42:05 pm »
Anyone know the rules on Covid my 10 days are up tomorrow.

Do I need to test negative on two LFTs before I can go out again ?

I know you do on day 6/7 on the new rules but im going by 10 day rule

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« Reply #67196 on: December 23, 2021, 03:45:31 pm »
Anyone know the rules on Covid my 10 days are up tomorrow.

Do I need to test negative on two LFTs before I can go out again ?

I know you do on day 6/7 on the new rules but im going by 10 day rule
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« Reply #67197 on: December 23, 2021, 03:49:54 pm »
You’re  free after 10 days whatever

Awesome.

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« Reply #67198 on: December 23, 2021, 03:50:17 pm »
Off for my booster at last. I hope everyone is doing okay.
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« Reply #67199 on: December 23, 2021, 03:51:05 pm »
When did you have it?

yesterday around 1.30pm. no issues other than a sore arm until today morning.
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