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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #200 on: April 23, 2018, 12:32:07 pm »
Hope they bring a ball. Game balls ours, they cant use it.

For those of you watching in Black and White, Liverpool are the team with the ball.
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #201 on: April 23, 2018, 12:34:16 pm »
For those of you watching in Black and White, Liverpool are the team with the ball.

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #202 on: April 23, 2018, 12:35:18 pm »
Buzzing at work today, can’t concentrate. These are the days when you wish you lived in the city to share some of the tension with colleagues :)

I can only imagine mate.  Even I'm excited, because the team is so exciting to watch and Jurgen does genuinely seem like a guy who would be fun to have a few drinks with and talk about the beautiful game.  Whenever Mourinho does well I can only feel sorry for his wife who no doubt has to listen to another tirade about how amazing he is.

I'm going for 4-1 first leg.  Think you'll fly out of the blocks and slaughter them. Oxlade with a brace of assists and Salah with a backheel-volley-reverse-scissors-kick with the kop behind him.

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #203 on: April 23, 2018, 12:39:42 pm »
I can only imagine mate.  Even I'm excited, because the team is so exciting to watch and Jürgen does genuinely seem like a guy who would be fun to have a few drinks with and talk about the beautiful game.  Whenever Mourinho does well I can only feel sorry for his wife who no doubt has to listen to another tirade about how amazing he is.

I'm going for 4-1 first leg.  Think you'll fly out of the blocks and slaughter them. Oxlade with a brace of assists and Salah with a backheel-volley-reverse-scissors-kick with the kop behind him.

4-1 first leg, so how did that go for the Barcelona then eh??


I'll take 2-0 first leg.
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #204 on: April 23, 2018, 12:44:58 pm »
Just watching the highlights of the Barca game again.

Some shambolic defending at times.

With this Roma side I'm worried their midfield might dominate us and the ball over the top which worked well against Barca.

Really feeling the anxiety and excitement already.

Just watched both Barca v Roam games and the defending was terrible  .. Lovren would want to careful about pulling out of Dzeko in the box , always feel he gets away with it alot.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2018, 12:47:18 pm by rocco »

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #205 on: April 23, 2018, 12:51:55 pm »
Lovren would want to careful about pulling out of Dzeko in the box

I would hope he's not up there in the first place. Time and a place fellas  ;D
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #206 on: April 23, 2018, 12:55:24 pm »
What a feeling it is to be involved in a semi final again. Incredible. Going to be absolutely bouncing. We know the crowd will inspire our lads, lets hope it sends 1 or 2 of theirs into their shells like it did to Sane. Doesn't get much better than this when it comes to looking forward to a game does it.

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #207 on: April 23, 2018, 12:56:02 pm »
Nerves have started.

I couldn't see the game on Saturday and having seen the result have watched no highlights either. Therefore the game didn't happen and it has no material impact on Tuesday. We had an almost completely changed back four which seems to have brought back former issues.

No matter.  The A Team returns for this, and we will pick up where we left off with City.

My faith in this team is battling my nerves and it's going to be a long time till kick off.

I think we'll do them 3-1 and then draw over there.

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #208 on: April 23, 2018, 12:56:35 pm »
The atmosphere is more about what it does to our players for me. Some teams do crumble when they come to Anfield (alright blue shite) but I think that in europe it is partly because they realise that our players are on another level with the support behind them. Lampard said as much, it didn't bother him but he could see that every Liverpool player was playing out of their skin because of it. I don't think Roma will 'shit themselves' per se but hopefully there comes a point where they realise that there is nothing they can do to stop Liverpool Football Club and it's destiny in europe. Just like Chelsea, Juventus, Dortmund and everyone else before them came to realise.

Exactly how I feel, I think the atmosphere is for our players more so than to scare the opposition

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #209 on: April 23, 2018, 12:58:52 pm »
Any bus welcome. Lets scare the living hell of them without breaking the glass this time round.
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #210 on: April 23, 2018, 01:01:12 pm »
4-1 first leg, so how did that go for the Barcelona then eh??


I'll take 2-0 first leg.

Am I being whooshed? In what scenario is 2-0 better than 4-1?

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #211 on: April 23, 2018, 01:06:53 pm »
Am I being whooshed? In what scenario is 2-0 better than 4-1?

Away goals

I’d take 2-0 over 4-1 I think just about although happy with either!

They just cane back from 4-1 against Barca and the away goal was crucial

Any result to nil would be great

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #212 on: April 23, 2018, 01:09:24 pm »
0-0 at home.

1-1 away.

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #213 on: April 23, 2018, 01:11:41 pm »
0-0 at home.

1-1 away.



A spike in heart attacks but would take the results!

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #214 on: April 23, 2018, 01:12:25 pm »
Away goals

I’d take 2-0 over 4-1 I think just about although happy with either!

They just cane back from 4-1 against Barca and the away goal was crucial

Any result to nil would be great

I don't think we'd be as lethargic as Barca were in Rome, even if we did concede an away goal.
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #215 on: April 23, 2018, 01:12:53 pm »
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Has to be sung properly though like in '65, not like it was against Inter in '08.
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #216 on: April 23, 2018, 01:14:05 pm »
0-0 at home.

1-1 away.

fuck that  :D

blitz them at home and finish the business in the first leg

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #217 on: April 23, 2018, 01:17:11 pm »
I don't think we'd be as lethargic as Barca were in Rome, even if we did concede an away goal.

No I agree but they haven’t conceded at home so an away goal not a given

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #218 on: April 23, 2018, 01:17:20 pm »
Away goals

I’d take 2-0 over 4-1 I think just about although happy with either!

They just cane back from 4-1 against Barca and the away goal was crucial

Any result to nil would be great

There isn't a single second leg scoreline where a 2-0 first leg win would see you through but you'd be knocked out with a 4-1. I think people grossly overestimate the impact of away goals, you can avoid the issue entirely if you score more goals than the other team.

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #219 on: April 23, 2018, 01:18:10 pm »
Has to be sung properly though like in '65, not like it was against Inter in '08.

Nothing will ever be sung properly at a football match involving Liverpool any more.

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #220 on: April 23, 2018, 01:20:23 pm »
A spike in heart attacks but would take the results!

0-0 at home, then relax.

We always win in Rome.
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #221 on: April 23, 2018, 01:20:37 pm »
Away goals

I’d take 2-0 over 4-1 I think just about although happy with either!

They just cane back from 4-1 against Barca and the away goal was crucial

Any result to nil would be great

People still don't understand away goals. 4-1 is a better result than 2-0. With 4-1, a 2-0 loss away takes us through whereas with 2-0, a 2-0 loss away takes us to extra time.

3-0 is better than 4-1 though. 4-0 is also better than 5-1 etc.

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #222 on: April 23, 2018, 01:21:36 pm »
No I agree but they haven’t conceded at home so an away goal not a given

They've conceded quite a few away, though, so we might not need one if we do enough tomorrow night.

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #223 on: April 23, 2018, 01:24:53 pm »
A few stats on the remaining four teams in this seasons champions league. Best attack best defence.

Liverpool: Total Goals 33, Total Goals Against 7.
Bayern Munich: Total Goals 23, Total Goals Against 8.
Real Madrid: Total Goals 26, Total Goals Against 12.
Roma: Total Goals 15, Total Goals Against 12.

And Records...

Most goals scored in a season
45 from 16 games (av. 2.81) FC Barcelona 1999/00
41 from 13 games (av. 3.15) Real Madrid CF 2013/14
36 from 13 games (av. 2.77) Real Madrid CF 2016/17
35 from 12 games (av. 2.92) FC Barcelona 2011/12
35 from 12 games (av. 2.92) Real Madrid CF 2011/12
35 from 16 games (av. 2.19) Real Madrid CF 2000/01
35 from 17 games (av. 2.06) Real Madrid CF 1999/00
35 from 17 games (av. 2.06) Real Madrid CF 2001/02

So Far
33 from 10 games (av. 3.3) Liverpool FC 2017/18

Basically, get the fuck out of our way Roma, we have records to break. 13 goals in 3 matches. Let's fucking go.

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #224 on: April 23, 2018, 01:25:51 pm »
People still don't understand away goals. 4-1 is a better result than 2-0. With 4-1, a 2-0 loss away takes us through whereas with 2-0, a 2-0 loss away takes us to extra time.

3-0 is better than 4-1 though. 4-0 is also better than 5-1 etc.

Haha i understand away goals perfectly well - its not just about black and white scores on paper

If you go away in the second leg not having conceded an away goal the mindset of both teams is entirely different. The away team know a goal and its all over (us at city). the home team are wary and cant pile forward as much.

its all swings and roundabouts and down to mindset and preferences, of which we'll have to agree to disagree on,  but i dont suppose anyone will grumble if we win 4-1!

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #225 on: April 23, 2018, 01:31:05 pm »
Haha i understand away goals perfectly well - its not just about black and white scores on paper

If you go away in the second leg not having conceded an away goal the mindset of both teams is entirely different. The away team know a goal and its all over (us at city). the home team are wary and cant pile forward as much.

its all swings and roundabouts and down to mindset and preferences, of which we'll have to agree to disagree on,  but i dont suppose anyone will grumble if we win 4-1!

With either scoreline, if we score away, Roma would have to score 4.

EDIT: But with a 4-1 first leg, a 4-1 away loss would go to extra time, in the 2-0 scenario we'd be out.
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #226 on: April 23, 2018, 01:32:57 pm »
Just reread Joe Fagan's half time notes from 1984 final. "Don't give free kicks away outside the box". Read reread and reread those wise words. What Joe said 34 years ago needs to be drummed into our boys' heads.

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #227 on: April 23, 2018, 01:33:49 pm »
No I agree but they haven’t conceded at home so an away goal not a given

But we haven't failed to score away from home in the CL. In fact, the only CL game this season where we didn't score was the dead-rubber 2nd leg against Porto when we were already 5-0 up.
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #228 on: April 23, 2018, 01:42:13 pm »
Any win without us conceding I will take right now. Shittiing it into overdrive

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #229 on: April 23, 2018, 01:54:56 pm »
4-1 is a better result than 2-0.

This is similar to a conversation that I had with my 7 year old son a while back.

He was under the impression that away goals counted as double under any circumstance. Not quite sure how long he was under this impression! In his eyes that 4-1 was actually 4-2. In that scenario 2-0 is better than 4-1 (2). Outside the world of a 7 year old, 4-1 is always better than 2-0.

I'd snap your arm for 4-1 tomorrow night. To be fair, I'd do the same for 2-0!
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #230 on: April 23, 2018, 01:56:11 pm »
The ref's a doctor.

I don't know what of, but he is a doctor.

Anyhow, he sent a Klopp player off in 2007 for Mainz - I proper reckon Herr Klopp asked for a consult there.
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #231 on: April 23, 2018, 01:58:16 pm »
I was raging as I was supposed to be out coaching  tomorrow night but the team manager just called and said that the players need a night off as they have been flat out for the last few weeks. Happy days I said to myself!!!  Pub, pints and lots of shouting are now on the agenda!!!

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #232 on: April 23, 2018, 02:01:09 pm »

I'd snap your arm for 4-1 tomorrow night. To be fair, I'd do the same for 2-0!

can all agree on that

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #233 on: April 23, 2018, 02:03:09 pm »
Excited but really, really apprehensive about this. Think it's because they are something of an unknown to me. We knew City were very, very good but we knew why - we had watched them all season but Roma are a different proposition and they are obviously a very good side as they have dispatched Barcelona and had some really strong results in other CL games this season.

Another home win to nil would be a dream but think it's important we continue this trend of building from a solid foundation at the back and not to get involved in one of those end-to-end, mad games. Granted we seem to be involved in a lot less of them but when something so big is at stake and emotions are high, I fear we could revert to that.

After City, I think all of our players will be massively up for this and all of them will want to see a repeat of the scenes after City - I think they have a real feel for it now. Hopefully they can see it through.

I think the team picks itself with Henderson in for Wijnaldum from the City game.


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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #234 on: April 23, 2018, 02:03:09 pm »
Nothing will ever be sung properly at a football match involving Liverpool any more.

Sadly this is true - was butchered in that '08 Inter game.
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #235 on: April 23, 2018, 02:06:45 pm »
I was just reading about their semi final second leg in 84 against Dundee United.  Lost the first leg at Tannodice 2-0 and paid off the ref to win 3-0 in Rome.  Forgot all about that, forgot how good that Dundee United team was and how they should have played us in the Final.

A lot harder to pay off the ref these day, but I'm sure those dirty bastards will give it a go.
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #236 on: April 23, 2018, 02:07:19 pm »
Sadly this is true - was butchered in that '08 Inter game.

It was quite good against Roma in 2001.
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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #237 on: April 23, 2018, 02:22:06 pm »
Excited for this now. Maybe a bit nervous but it's only natural. A good sort of nervous.

We could all have a stress free time if we weren't in the semi finals of the European Cup, but who'd want that? Best way to avoid stress is to avoid ever playing in games that mean something.  That sounds like the typical season of those that like to mock. That like to accuse us of living in the past. That like to come to Anfield and ask about the atmosphere.

It's funny though, how come we keep doing it? How come we keep being involved in these big games in Europe, when its still light as they are kicking off? Despite a self inflicted wound that has ended up costing us anything from 5-10 years of progress, this century alone has seen us in 7 European semi-finals. This is our 4th European Cup semi-final in 14 years. We know the course and distance and as fans we know whats expected of us.

As others have said, it's not necessarily about the opposition, anyone that gets even slightly put off is a bonus, it's about what it does to the lads in red. I haven't got a clue what the 180 minutes will bring, it may even bring a further 30 minutes, but what I do know is that Roma and their fans will be wary of us. Whatever they may say about revenge for 84, about plans for handling Salah they will be wary. Whatever happens at Anfield, they will be wary of what we can do in Rome. I don't care about their defensive record, I just know we'll be able to score over there and they'll know that too.

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Re: Liverpool vs AS Roma, Uefa Champions League Sem-Final 1st leg
« Reply #238 on: April 23, 2018, 02:22:36 pm »
Am I being whooshed? In what scenario is 2-0 better than 4-1?

3-0 on either equation dumps us out. Any goal for us in the 2nd leg with 3 to them sees us through.
Bottom line- we need to score away from home but first a clean sheet at home would be good.

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« Reply #239 on: April 23, 2018, 02:23:41 pm »
Watching highlights of Romas two home games against Barca and Chelsea, and both teams didnt press or disrupt the flow of Roma, essentially making it rather easy for Roma. I trust Jurgen to go full blazing like usual and honestly Roma will not be able to live with it!