Ok well that was pretty horrendous. However there is not too much point going into the details of Lovren and Mignolet as these two are beyond help. You can't even form an argument in defense of them.
I think this first quarter of the season is a much needed reality check.
I'm worried for Jurgen because he has unwavering belief in quite honestly bang average players. The honest truth is not one keeper we have is good enough. Tottenham had a good one today, that's tottenham, not liverpool. 18 times league winners, 5 times CL winners etc but Tottenham, the perennial fuck all winners. So what happens now with the Goalkeepers, well i'll tell you...We either drop mignolet for Karius or Ward but the latter is unlikely or we keep him in but the reality is, none of them is good enough. Let's just say we drop Simon, we go to Karius who no doubt will have a similar game at some point once again making us question his credentials. We then possibly fall back on Ward, now i guess he's a bit of an unknown quantity at this level however i doubt he's the next Buffon, Clemence, Shilton and so on. I mean if he was i'm sure Jurgen would of been aware of that in training and threw him in. Because of the above the likelihood is we don't sign another keeper.
On to the defence. One of the issues we have is the belief we'll be better when clyne come's back. Problem solved. Well no get that out of your head though his return would be welcome. Another illusion is that because Lovren is quite frankly an abomination it gives the impression Matip is good. He's alright Matip like but has the odd moment like today where he think he's done enough, doesn't really take responsibility for me, he's one of those defenders who half does his job, it's almost like his mental commitment isn't all there. He's kinda happy with just doing enough, well that's not enough.
Moreno is an interesting one, he's done well this season. Moreno here isn't the problem, it's our manager. I kind of have trouble turning from doubter to believer when you write someone off in favour of a 31 year old midfielder turned left back, sign another left back in preseason and then play the kid who you didn't select for most of the previous year. To me that screams of indecision, either a player is or isn't good enough. It's different from not playing someone for a few games, your talking a whole season. This is why i don't think Jurgen fixes the defense.
Midfield wise, emre is already at Juve. Why play someone who's head isn't here and at the same time isn't contributing anyway. Aside from Coutinho and Lallana nobody else is fit to wear the shirt in terms of talent. That's a blunt fact. Henderson isn't good enough, Milner also and Gini blows hot and cold and is far too inconsistent at top level. We moved for Keita for that exact reason. Hate to harp back to we are liverpool etc etc but take a good look at our midfield players down the years. If you can't deal with raising your game to them levels, you shouldn't be here.
Lastly i appreciate the effort Firmino puts in but i'm more arsed about the ball in the back of the net ultimately, he needs to find himself doing that more, somehow.
Also i don't expect any of the above to be fixed. We have tight owners who have spent 23.4m net per season. We have a manager who as great as he is (i believe he is) overstates the quality of what he has available which suits the owners perfectly yet it's a recipe for disaster on the pitch. I mean he knows a good players when he see's one. There's no comparison between the one's he had at dortmund and the one's he has here. Bar Phil,Mane & Salah.
Jurgen recently said we are in the middle of things right now. If that's the middle how the fuck is it worse than at the start.