Topic: Roberto Firmino

[4pool]

He was very poor today. Lost it many times.

 

Jurgen sees him as integral to our attack because he tries things. He's not supposed to be like Virgil and 95% pass rate.

[MdArshad]

He was very poor today. Lost it many times.

Love him but he is the elephant in the room now. Everytime he plays, his link up play is poor and the amount of time he lose the ball is alarming. The way he plays now, is like getting a legend who have retired to play a match for us.

[Legoland]

Jurgen sees him as integral to our attack because he tries things. He's not supposed to be like Virgil and 95% pass rate.

What are you laughing at? He was poor.

[Ghost Town]

 

Love him but he is the elephant in the room now. Everytime he plays, his link up play is poor and the amount of time he lose the ball is alarming. The way he plays now, is like getting a legend who have retired to play a match for us.

Never any in-between or nuance for you guys is there?

[disgraced cake]

Thought he was poor today. Hope he brings Jota in for Inter and Norwich.

[jonnypb]

He was very poor today. Lost it many times.

As were other players today.

Conditions were awful today against a team that’s hard to play against and who actually have an OK defensive record. We got a win and a clean sheet!!

[Funky_Gibbons]

Jurgen sees him as integral to our attack because he tries things. He's not supposed to be like Virgil and 95% pass rate.

Losing possession trying a through ball or cross is one thing, but he’s not even completing simple passes.

[El Lobo]

He was very poor today. Lost it many times.

Any other players you want to slag off after our win? Donut

[farawayred]

Thought he was poor today. Hope he brings Jota in for Inter and Norwich.

I don't think Bobby was poor. He tried to unlock the defense and kept them confused at the back. He was the better option for this game.Inter is another story though, Jota's game might be more suitable..

[Bread]

I enjoyed Firmino's performance today. Not his best, but I saw the positives. Took up some very good positions that pulled the Burnley players all over the place, and his buildup play was overall very decent. His final ball did let him down on quite a few occasions though, which led to some frustrating moments.

[MonsLibpool]

 

Never any in-between or nuance for you guys is there?

He hasn't been great for a while and rightfully lost his place to Jota. He almost cost us a goal by losing the ball in extra time.

[simplyred84]

Love the guy to bits but how he stayed on for 90mins beggars belief. He stank the place out.

[farawayred]

Love the guy to bits but how he stayed on for 90mins beggars belief. He stank the place out.

This is not the Spurs thread, mate, you posted in the wrong place.

[4pool]

What are you laughing at? He was poor.

Laughing at the usual suspect coming in to post because Bobby gave a few passes away.

Never taking in the conditions. None of the lads had great passing numbers. Hendo gave the ball away for their first attack that Ali made the save on. The ball was in the air all the time.

There are those in the prematch threads always taking Bobby out of the lineup. Obviously Jurgen sees every damn thing Bobby does. Has all the analysis breakdowns after the match. And Jurgen still picks Bobby. Is it possible Jurgen may just know a bit more than those who watch on the telly? Apparently not.

[ac]

Awful today, kept giving the ball away and offered little to no threat in attack. The frequency of these performances is getting more and more - his days of being a first choice attacker are looking increasingly numbered

[simplyred84]

This is not the Spurs thread, mate, you posted in the wrong place.

What?

[Ghost Town]

He hasn't been great for a while and rightfully lost his place to Jota. He almost cost us a goal by losing the ball in extra time.

Has he "lost his place" to Jota? Or does Klopp finally have the luxury of rotating his attacking players and is using that facility to the full?

Only Klopp knows the truth of that, so you'll excuse me if I don't believe you, and all the others, who relentlessly invent your/their own negative scenarios and then propound them.

I notice that another of your write-offs also got 90 mins today. Not a great track record of calling it, have you?

[4pool]

Man City...if you listen to the pundits, they're not as good because they don't have a recognized striker.
Played 25 -- scored 61 goals.

Liverpool.. whigners constantly take Bobby out of the team, we should have a goal scorer as the #9, and post he's poor.
Played 24 -- scored 61 goals.

And let's give it to Chelsea with their recognized #9 in Lukaku leading their line and their abundance of riches in the attacking area. Played 24 -- scored 48.


We're obviously worse off with Bobby in the team leading the line. 

It is like some sort of disconnect between some and what we are doing. It's like when Rafa was in charge and we had all that nonsense about Zonal Marking. All led by pundits on tv who droned on about Man v Man marking is how to go.  Now it's pundits ( and a few ex-players who only remember their day) banging on about a true #9 in the middle. And we get the same in here. Bobby doesn't score enough goals, misplaces passes, is poor, and on and on. Yet, the team succeeds. 2 losses in our last 49. But never good enough for the pedant micro managers.

Glad Jurgen is in charge and does things his way. 

[newterp]

Thought he kept the ball well under pressure many many times - but then just wasn't able to do much otherwise.

[Raaphael]

Love him.

[MonsLibpool]

Has he "lost his place" to Jota? Or does Klopp finally have the luxury of rotating his attacking players and is using that facility to the full?

Only Klopp knows the truth of that, so you'll excuse me if I don't believe you, and all the others, who relentlessly invent your/their own negative scenarios and then propound them.

I notice that another of your write-offs also got 90 mins today. Not a great track record of calling it, have you?

Lol.

[PoetryInMotion]

Stank the place out? Dreary me!

[Coolie High]

He was alright, nothing noteworthy certainly no complaints here, everybody has a quiet game or two.

[SamLad]

Is it possible Jurgen may just know a bit more than those who watch on the telly?

heretic!

[PoetryInMotion]

He was alright, nothing noteworthy certainly no complaints here, everybody has a quiet game or two.

Exactly. He was alright, that's the point. Nobody said he was great today either, but there are some absolute shockers in this page, just like a few in the Naby thread as well.

I don't think any player had a poor game - some subdued maybe, but poor, nah.. We played plenty of slick passing moves, the final ball didn't come through that often and they picked us off with their runners on to second balls and winning in the air, but most of them were offside anyway, barring one or two chances where we needed Alisson. I thought it was a decent win and Bobby's hold up play was important in game management in the second half.

[farawayred]

What?

You posted about "stinking the place out". Got to be the Spurs thread, not Bobby's.

[Doc Red]

So good at creating space for himself, and clearly has the vision for the pass. It's understandable why some see his future as a midfielder.
It's just his passing isn't as tight as the rest of his game. Or rather, it's not as consistent.
On another day, he might have gotten an assist or so, with an hockey assist to boot. On this day, he gave away possession far too often and Burnley's best (offside)chances were usually the direct consequence.

[Caligula?]

Love the man but I think with the signings of Jota and Diaz we're definitely preparing for life with Firmino being less present in the side than before. A future impact sub perhaps? And that's completely normal, he's been here since 2015 and it's now 2022.

[RedG13]

Love the man but I think with the signings of Jota and Diaz we're definitely preparing for life with Firmino being less present in the side than before. A future impact sub perhaps? And that's completely normal, he's been here since 2015 and it's now 2022.

Yea he brillant but Getting Jota and possible Carvalho it seems they are planning for Life with Firmino being less present in the side. He did his job today. Not sure he starting on Wed after starting last 2 games playing 60 then 90 but it good to not just rely on 3 players. He is very important in games where Liverpool wants to dominate Zone 14. I think he will start vs Chelsea in the League cup final to man mark Jorginho.

[-Willo-]

Happy enough for him to stay around as he's clearly a massive part of the dressing room, it's not like he is first choice anymore, it is quite clear that our new front 3 is Mane-Jota-Salah with Firmino 4th choice, and looking at the way he's playing that'll soon be 5th choice.

If he is happy with that then its not the worst 5th choice is it.

[Joff]

5 more years

[Silverbird]

I find that he seems to have lost that little bit of pace/acceleration that allows him to get away from defenders. He's still got a great touch and control, and when he has the ball at his feet, I am not worried he's going to lose the ball - he seems to lose the ball most when he's trying to dribble away from opponents and then lacks the pace to get away. The vision, the physicality, the technique, they are all still there, but he's just a tad slower than he used to be. Hoping he regains that little bit of pace because I love him and think he still has a role to play even at his age.

[Schmidt]

He's had a few poor games recently for sure, mainly just due to giving the ball away under no real pressure. One issue we've had in recent seasons is the need to play players through their rough patches because we just don't have anyone else to come in for them, now we have the luxury of rotating and allowing other players to be "first choice" for a little while. It's something City have done to great effect, being able to bring the likes of Mahrez in and take Sterling out for a spell, albeit due to operating without any financial restrictions.

Hopefully with Salah and Mane back we can properly rotate our forwards now and give them the rest they need to play at 100%.

[tubby]

He's still doing the Bobby things to a high level; dropping off into space to help knit attacks, pressing like a madman from the front, keeping the ball under pressure, challenging oafish defenders, etc.  That stuff is his bread and butter.

But he's always been an erratic finisher and passer, and that was the issue against Burnley.  And I think the real discussion point is the fact that Mane, Salah and Jota's numbers don't dip when Firmino isn't in the team, so he's just not as crucial as he once was.

[Ghost Town]

Well in Bobby!

One for the armchair managers that

[Red Sky at Night]

His work rate tonight has been astounding 

[Rush 82]

His work rate tonight has been astounding 

Rubbish man. Check the posts on this page - he's off to the knackers he is




/s

[Ghost Town]

Rubbish man. Check the posts on this page - he's off to the knackers he is




/s

You'd hope there'd be one or two feeling a bit abashed, but I doubt it

[JackWard33]

He was so poor … and then pulled off the header of the season - mad bastard

[Hazell]

My word, what a header that was.