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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1000 on: August 1, 2015, 02:05:38 pm »
Expectations for every season:

- challenging for the title in the last month of the season
- a domestic cup final
- the latter stages of a European cup

Predictions for this season:

- think we'll get fourth (ahead of the Mancs)
- a cup final
- semi's of the Europa
- Rossiter to be a first team player by the end of the season
- Beneteke to score more than 15
- defence will still be leaky but we'll score goals
- I'll listen to over 200 hours of The Anfield Wrap podcast!

Can't wait for it to start again.
My prediction is that none of them things will happen  ;)

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1001 on: August 1, 2015, 02:29:59 pm »
I didn't seen it myself but, perhaps the mods thought it had nothing to do with Benteke?

Hopefully he reposts it there then :P

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1002 on: August 1, 2015, 03:51:12 pm »
Hopefully he reposts it there then :P

I thought it was funny personally - after two years of searching the furthest we got was Birmingham - for effectively, the antithesis of Suarez.

Then he reckoned everyone should be sacked.
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1003 on: August 1, 2015, 04:31:26 pm »
The way I see it, there will be no grey area with our midfield.
 With Henderson and Milner it will either go spectacularly right or will be a disaster. I see it as two players who will chase down the opposition all game high up the pitch but have the energy to get back into position. You have the potential box in teams and not allow them out of their own half. Both also have the legs to arrive late in the box to create a ton of chances and score goals.

 That's the good.

 The bad, however (imho)

 Is if the two of them play in a 1 and a 2 with a defensive midfielder behind them I don't think either have the deftness of touch to break down teams that will park the bus (and most of the league will park the bus against us). And if the pair of them play in a 2 and a 1 with Coutinho in front of them I don't think they have the tactical nous to shield the defence, especially against midfielders that play 'between the lines'.

 As I said, the pair of them may work wonderfully or completely blow up in our face.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1004 on: August 1, 2015, 04:35:48 pm »
The way I see it, there will be no grey area with our midfield.
 With Henderson and Milner it will either go spectacularly right or will be a disaster. I see it as two players who will chase down the opposition all game high up the pitch but have the energy to get back into position. You have the potential box in teams and not allow them out of their own half. Both also have the legs to arrive late in the box to create a ton of chances and score goals.

 That's the good.

 The bad, however (imho)

 Is if the two of them play in a 1 and a 2 with a defensive midfielder behind them I don't think either have the deftness of touch to break down teams that will park the bus (and most of the league will park the bus against us). And if the pair of them play in a 2 and a 1 with Coutinho in front of them I don't think they have the tactical nous to shield the defence, especially against midfielders that play 'between the lines'.

 As I said, the pair of them may work wonderfully or completely blow up in our face.
Interesting thoughts. I'm not a fan of Rodgers' 4231 as its never really worked for him here, but nonetheless it is positive to see him trying Milner and Henderson deeper together as it could be an alternative solution to try against some teams against which we need an additional creative player in front of that pair instead of a more defensive player behind them.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1005 on: August 1, 2015, 05:15:04 pm »

The way I see it, there will be no grey area..
 ..it will either go spectacularly right or will be a disaster.

That's how I see it for the whole team this season.. Brendan's bollocks is on the line..
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1006 on: August 1, 2015, 09:03:49 pm »
Much the same as last season I think. We'll go on a decent run here and there, fail to defend properly, especially when Lucas doesn't play. Benteke will score a few but will still divide Rawk on his role in the team when he isn't scoring.  We will however pip Spurs to 5th largely due to Kanes difficult second album. We'll fail in Europe again pretty early on which will put Brendan under a lot of pressure. People will bemoan the fact he didn't buy a midfield controller. FA cup and league cup semis. We'll be forced to admit that we miss oxide boy more than we thought we would.  :wave


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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1007 on: August 1, 2015, 09:08:22 pm »
Interesting thoughts. I'm not a fan of Rodgers' 4231 as its never really worked for him here, but nonetheless it is positive to see him trying Milner and Henderson deeper together as it could be an alternative solution to try against some teams against which we need an additional creative player in front of that pair instead of a more defensive player behind them.

What you need is a more creative player behind them ;)
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1008 on: August 1, 2015, 10:05:13 pm »
Last season everybody predicted we would finish in the top 4. We didnt. Now nobody is predicting we wont this year. We will.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1009 on: August 1, 2015, 10:06:33 pm »
Last season everybody predicted we would finish in the top 4. We didnt. Now nobody is predicting we wont this year. We will.

That's definitely how it works. So get in!
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1010 on: August 1, 2015, 10:08:52 pm »
My prediction is that none of them things will happen  ;)

That's a big shout - I've probably listened to 20 hours of The Anfield Wrap already and we are only in pre-season. 200 hours is going to be a piece of piss!

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1011 on: August 1, 2015, 11:09:49 pm »
I predict a rise in my blood pressure next Sunday at 4pm. Ive had such a relaxing couple of months as well. Oh well. Heart says 4th, head says 5th. Still think were relying on Sturridge to come back to get a sniff of 4th and we all learnt last year that is a shit place to be. I predict we will ship 45 - 50 again as well.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1012 on: August 2, 2015, 12:22:05 am »
Anywhere between 1st and 3rd.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1013 on: August 2, 2015, 01:06:14 am »
The way I see it, there will be no grey area with our midfield.
 With Henderson and Milner it will either go spectacularly right or will be a disaster. I see it as two players who will chase down the opposition all game high up the pitch but have the energy to get back into position. You have the potential box in teams and not allow them out of their own half. Both also have the legs to arrive late in the box to create a ton of chances and score goals.

 That's the good.

 The bad, however (imho)

 Is if the two of them play in a 1 and a 2 with a defensive midfielder behind them I don't think either have the deftness of touch to break down teams that will park the bus (and most of the league will park the bus against us). And if the pair of them play in a 2 and a 1 with Coutinho in front of them I don't think they have the tactical nous to shield the defence, especially against midfielders that play 'between the lines'.

 As I said, the pair of them may work wonderfully or completely blow up in our face.

I spoke to Villa fans about Milner in midfield for them and they said he was very disciplined defensively as it was actually Petrov who was the more walkabout of the two in midfield and had to cover him loads.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1014 on: August 2, 2015, 01:42:53 am »
If Sturridge plays most of the season.

If ibe can put in some assists and goals.

If benteke scores 15.

If we play Llalana all season.

If firmino is 50% of suarez.

If skrtel and Sakho have good seasons.

If Moreno basically totally reinvents himself.

If Mignolet has a very good season.

We have a chance of top4.
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1015 on: August 2, 2015, 02:35:47 am »
I optimistically think we'll finish 3rd, narrowly behind Manchester United (2nd) and way behind Chelsea (1st). I think City, Arsenal and Spurs will battle it out for 4th, and I think Spurs might shockingly pull it off. After the season, both Wenger and Pellegrini will be on their way (if not earlier).

Honestly though I wouldn't be surprised if we miss the top four (if our signings don't gel immediately and if we get off to a bad start), and at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if we challenge for the title, literally anything could happen this season. However the one very unlikely thing that would have to happen for us to be title contenders is that Chelsea need to be way less good than I expect them to be. I think everyone else having a wobbly season is fairly likely, although they may not. But I have a feeling Chelsea will win the league by 10 or more points this season. If they have a bad year, then it's anyone's title. Why not ours.

I think City and Arsenal are massively overrated by many at the moment. I think Van Gaal is the X-Factor at United and that they might surprise people and do well.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1016 on: August 2, 2015, 08:47:21 am »
The closer we get to the start of the season, realism starts to take hold. Hope and expectation say that we have signed a proven striker and replaced Sterling with an exciting Brazilian. However, many serious defensive issues remain unaddressed, yes, we replaced our dodgy right back, but there remains a lack of solidity running from goalkeeper through central defence into midfield.
We may be able to take the game to the opposition with some flair this season, but we may also find ourselves in a position that we lose more games than we should, because we will ship too many goals from defensive mistakes and lack of control in our own half.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1017 on: August 2, 2015, 08:52:12 am »
Interesting thoughts. I'm not a fan of Rodgers' 4231 as its never really worked for him here, but nonetheless it is positive to see him trying Milner and Henderson deeper together as it could be an alternative solution to try against some teams against which we need an additional creative player in front of that pair instead of a more defensive player behind them.
I'm not a fan of his 4231, never seems to work. For me, we've always plsyer better under Rodgers with a front 2. It occupies more defenders than a 1. Also, to use Milner and Henderson as holding midfielders would nullify their physical attributes.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1018 on: August 2, 2015, 08:55:04 am »
I'm not a fan of his 4231, never seems to work. For me, we've always plsyer better under Rodgers with a front 2. It occupies more defenders than a 1. Also, to use Milner and Henderson as holding midfielders would nullify their physical attributes.
When has a front two worked under Rodgers without Suarez and Sturridge playing?
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1019 on: August 2, 2015, 09:37:04 am »
When has a front two worked under Rodgers without Suarez and Sturridge playing?

When has 1 up front worked without Suarez playing?  ;D
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« Reply #1020 on: August 2, 2015, 09:40:19 am »
When has 1 up front worked without Suarez playing?  ;D
Worked fairly well with just Sturridge up front while Suarez had his enforced absences.
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1021 on: August 2, 2015, 09:42:59 am »
Anywhere between 1st and 3rd.

I'm confident.

Based on what sorry? Just pure blind faith?


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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1022 on: August 2, 2015, 09:59:35 am »
If skrtel and Sakho have good seasons.

May need to change that to "If Sakho plays"....

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1023 on: August 2, 2015, 10:22:44 am »
Can people please shut the fuck up about who we're goin to play at CB? It's already ruined the pre-season thread. Just get behind the team whoever starts.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1024 on: August 2, 2015, 10:24:47 am »
Can people please shut the fuck up about who we're goin to play at CB? It's already ruined the pre-season thread. Just get behind the team whoever starts.
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1025 on: August 2, 2015, 10:24:57 am »
I reckon next May we should have an 'Expectations for 2016/2017 Pre-Season' thread.
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« Reply #1026 on: August 2, 2015, 10:27:05 am »
I reckon next May we should have an 'Expectations for 2016/2017 Pre-Season' thread.
Why wait until May when we can start one today?  We all know that 95% of posts will be about Lovren anyways  :wave

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1027 on: August 2, 2015, 10:37:52 am »
If Sturridge plays most of the season.

If ibe can put in some assists and goals.

If benteke scores 15.

If we play Llalana all season.

If firmino is 50% of suarez.

If skrtel and Sakho have good seasons.

If Moreno basically totally reinvents himself.

If Mignolet has a very good season.

We have a chance of top4.

We finished 8 points from the 70 point champions league spot and Man United. How on earth do we need all of that to go for us to "have a chance of top 4"?

We were shit last season and still not far off. Think some people are in for a big surprise personally. We will impress.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1028 on: August 2, 2015, 10:41:14 am »
A season of excitement every weekend (and some weekdays). Watching some ridiculously entertaining players pull on the red shirt. Wonderful goals, and hilarious moments. Going in work on the Monday with my mood depending on the results.

That's what I predict.
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1029 on: August 2, 2015, 11:16:18 am »
Has anybody got any information on the state of the pitch?

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1030 on: August 2, 2015, 11:26:55 am »
When Sturridge is back I hope we go back to two up front. With Benteke the main guy and Sturridge Coutinho and Firmino working around him.

Would need a DM for that to work though 
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1031 on: August 2, 2015, 11:28:59 am »
When Sturridge is back I hope we go back to two up front. With Benteke the main guy and Sturridge Coutinho and Firmino working around him.

Would need a DM for that to work though 

Not really. If they play well we wont need a dm.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1032 on: August 2, 2015, 11:32:56 am »
If Sturridge plays most of the season.

If ibe can put in some assists and goals.

If benteke scores 15.


If we play Llalana all season.

If firmino is 50% of suarez.

If skrtel and Sakho have good seasons.

If Moreno basically totally reinvents himself.

If Mignolet has a very good season.

We have a chance of top4.

If Sturridge plays most of the season, Mignolet is decent and Benteke gets at least 15 league goals then we will finish top four.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1033 on: August 2, 2015, 11:36:45 am »
Not really. If they play well we wont need a dm.

Milner Henderson and those 4. Bit ambitious that isn't it  :D

Anyway I think out attack is completely fine now, with the emergence of Ibe.

Still worried about the defensive side of things like.
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« Reply #1034 on: August 2, 2015, 12:21:28 pm »
After the dismal last couple of months of 14/15, culminating in the 6-1, and then the talk was that we'd sign Ings, Benteke and Milner to invigorate us for 15/16, I think it is reasonable to say not many of us were excited by the prospect.  And Ings, Benteke and Milner is what we got, but somehow it doesn't seem quite so dire now, as memories fade and expectations rise.  It's amazing what the start of a new season can bring.  Who knows, if everything gels, we might be able to put a couple of runs together like last season's Dec-March run, of which we are undoubtably capable.  Do that and we're in the mix.

In terms of the players, I anticipate Clyne replacing late period Johnson as being an improvement.  I would also anticipate replacing late period Gerrard with Milner as probably helping things too, in terms of energy and perhaps liberating some of the players from having such a 'legend' in their midst.  I'd also have to hope that Benteke and Ings surely (surely?) have to score more goals than Balotelli and Lambert managed last season.  Like most of us, I have no real idea how Firmino will be, he looks great on the youtube and stats wise, but we'll be very lucky if he proves to be as good as Sterling was.  Anyone dismissing how much of a threat Sterling was to the opposition is re writing history.  So overall, I think we've improved a little player wise.

Something we're not really privy to is, what do the players think of the manager, is he held in high regard by them?  My strong suspicion is that last season he probably wasn't, but some have left and some have arrived, so perhaps the atmosphere has changed now?

As the manager says, and we should all probably acknowledge, 5th is 'par' nowadays.    I don't see that anyone who finished below us has improved dramatically over the summer, and I don't think we've improved dramatically enough to overhaul the 'big 4', so logic points to another year of battling Spurs for 5th.

I hope I'm wrong.

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1035 on: August 2, 2015, 12:38:01 pm »
5th, most likely. Maybe we'll do worse than Spurs and finish 6th again. We have a squad that should do better in the long run, but let's see whether they stay together after a disastrous season  :P

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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1036 on: August 2, 2015, 01:07:21 pm »
Worked fairly well with just Sturridge up front while Suarez had his enforced absences.

3 games though. Each one we won 1-0. Don't think that's a big enough sample


After the dismal last couple of months of 14/15, culminating in the 6-1, and then the talk was that we'd sign Ings, Benteke and Milner to invigorate us for 15/16, I think it is reasonable to say not many of us were excited by the prospect.  And Ings, Benteke and Milner is what we got, but somehow it doesn't seem quite so dire now, as memories fade and expectations rise.  It's amazing what the start of a new season can bring.  Who knows, if everything gels, we might be able to put a couple of runs together like last season's Dec-March run, of which we are undoubtably capable.  Do that and we're in the mix.

In terms of the players, I anticipate Clyne replacing late period Johnson as being an improvement.  I would also anticipate replacing late period Gerrard with Milner as probably helping things too, in terms of energy and perhaps liberating some of the players from having such a 'legend' in their midst.  I'd also have to hope that Benteke and Ings surely (surely?) have to score more goals than Balotelli and Lambert managed last season.  Like most of us, I have no real idea how Firmino will be, he looks great on the youtube and stats wise, but we'll be very lucky if he proves to be as good as Sterling was.  Anyone dismissing how much of a threat Sterling was to the opposition is re writing history.  So overall, I think we've improved a little player wise.

Something we're not really privy to is, what do the players think of the manager, is he held in high regard by them?  My strong suspicion is that last season he probably wasn't, but some have left and some have arrived, so perhaps the atmosphere has changed now?

As the manager says, and we should all probably acknowledge, 5th is 'par' nowadays.    I don't see that anyone who finished below us has improved dramatically over the summer, and I don't think we've improved dramatically enough to overhaul the 'big 4', so logic points to another year of battling Spurs for 5th.

I hope I'm wrong.

Pretty much how I see it. Overall we've improved player wise, but not enough for a top 4 challenge. Just don't have the money to do it, I'll be quite happy if we get 7/8 more points than last year. Which would at least mean we won't be too far away from the top 4
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1037 on: August 2, 2015, 01:35:39 pm »
I optimistically think we'll finish 3rd, narrowly behind Manchester United (2nd) and way behind Chelsea (1st). I think City, Arsenal and Spurs will battle it out for 4th, and I think Spurs might shockingly pull it off. After the season, both Wenger and Pellegrini will be on their way (if not earlier).

Honestly though I wouldn't be surprised if we miss the top four (if our signings don't gel immediately and if we get off to a bad start), and at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if we challenge for the title, literally anything could happen this season. However the one very unlikely thing that would have to happen for us to be title contenders is that Chelsea need to be way less good than I expect them to be. I think everyone else having a wobbly season is fairly likely, although they may not. But I have a feeling Chelsea will win the league by 10 or more points this season. If they have a bad year, then it's anyone's title. Why not ours.

I think City and Arsenal are massively overrated by many at the moment. I think Van Gaal is the X-Factor at United and that they might surprise people and do well.

And by the way, hi!

I'm not so sure that United side is that much better than last season. They need more goalscorers, they currently don't have the goalscorers to put away 80 or so goals needed for 2nd place.

City and Arsenal do however, we possibly do but it depends on how our new signings settle. As things stand I'd probably have us ahead of United ur dspends who they bring in, for instance someone like Pedro could add 10-15 goals to their side.
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1038 on: August 2, 2015, 01:38:06 pm »
When does Brentieke speak, I see no smoke from the chimney, we have a week for the prophet to appear before us,

No pressure then
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Re: Expectations For 2015/16 Season (Brenties Crystal-Ball Thread Mk. II)
« Reply #1039 on: August 2, 2015, 01:46:07 pm »
Think we'll end up 5th or 6th.  The attack will be better but we're still going to leak goals and defend like schoolboys.