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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #640 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:05 pm »
And you can, indeed, keep fucking off. Thanks.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #641 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:09 pm »
Rafa is proven, he's not a pipe dream. FSG should pull out all the stops to get him and ignore Ian Ayre, etc.
He loves it here, his family is here and we know he can make us kings again.

Klopp is unproven in the premier league, he wasn't responsible for the signings in Dortmund, his geggenpressing doesn't suit a lot of our players and how would it fare against the bottom half of the table? 

Klopp is a really good manager, of that i have no doubt. But he is a risk.



Rafa is a bigger risk considering how past it he is. This is not 2004.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #642 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:14 pm »
Rodgers got only himself to blame. He found something that worked for this group of players , abandoned it and will pay the price with his job. Just hope it`s anybody but Klopp. His brand of football is horrible and not compatible to how Lfc should play imo.

I'm genuinely asking this but you were saying the opposite yesterday mate. How has your opinion gone 360?

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #643 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:15 pm »
Indeed. Any new manager will have his work cut out.

Our stars are leaving and the squad is terrible.

Depends how you see it. No doubt we have some weaknesses, but 2-3 players of the right quality could make a real difference. Lots of work to be done though. No question about that. Lots of exits needed.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #644 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:19 pm »
A fitting change of thread title.
My thoughts exactly. At least one good thing came of a terrible day. Well done Stevie and thank you.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #645 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:20 pm »
There is one manager who could be available. Loved living in Merseyside, knows all about following tough acts, would take the job even though he has a job waiting in Spain.
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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #646 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:21 pm »
Aye, obsessing over particular individuals is very odd. Very odd indeed. Odd. Indeed.

What?
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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #647 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:30 pm »
Great squad that underperformed, sadly.

Brendan has the potential to be a top manager - if he can learn from this season
And if he's given the chance...

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #648 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:33 pm »
Well that was surely something.


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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #649 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:40 pm »
Always being the optimist that I am I still think Rodgers will do much better next year were he to stay. Sad seeing those comments from him there.

It'd be hard to do worse than this managerial clusterfuck of a season.
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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #650 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:40 pm »
Rafa is proven, he's not a pipe dream. FSG should pull out all the stops to get him and ignore Ian Ayre, etc.
He loves it here, his family is here and we know he can make us kings again.

Klopp is unproven in the premier league, he wasn't responsible for the signings in Dortmund, his geggenpressing doesn't suit a lot of our players and how would it fare against the bottom half of the table? 

Klopp is a really good manager, of that i have no doubt. But he is a risk.



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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #651 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:40 pm »
Whether people agree with BR being sacked or not, it's abundantly clear he's lost the dressing room and there's only ever one outcome when that happens.....

I want him to go & have for a while but thats no excuse for the players to piss away Stevies last few games.

Alot of the players have been just as lacking as Rodgers this season.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #652 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:40 pm »
And you can, indeed, keep fucking off. Thanks.

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This isn't helpful.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #653 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:50 pm »
which is why he posts loads on rawk.
to be honest, someone like POP is great in small doses, his way of looking at the game can be engaging and stimulating but his condescending nature is too much.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #654 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:56 pm »
We can. He admires us.

Though FSG and Ayre could mess up their speech to him.
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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #655 on: May 24, 2015, 05:33:58 pm »
We have him, de Boer, maybe Benitez and maybe Ancelotti available. Not sure if any of thise would come but we have to take our chance in the summer imo and Klopp is the most likely to come
Benitez would relish it, Ancelotti is taking a year out, if he is indeed leaving. De Boer, I really don't know enough about and Klopp imo is a huge risk, though we would be better than we currently are under his tutelage.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #656 on: May 24, 2015, 05:34:06 pm »
....and finished one place lower in the league than the previous season.

Were you complaining?

I will concede that I don't expect us to change manager in the summer and for us to repeat that feat by winning the champions league next season.
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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #657 on: May 24, 2015, 05:34:11 pm »
Bloody hell, lol. Some of you are obsessed.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #658 on: May 24, 2015, 05:34:12 pm »
Fat Sam has just come available. Wonder if we can get him? Think he be going off to Real Madrid but he might be tempted by us.  :P

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #659 on: May 24, 2015, 05:34:44 pm »
Looks like some people here couldn't wait to stick the knife into Rodgers and PoP. Classless.
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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #660 on: May 24, 2015, 05:34:49 pm »
^ That's what you get for posting twitter shite kids.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #661 on: May 24, 2015, 05:34:53 pm »
Who are these people that said we don't need goalscorers? Of course we do, many of us pointed that out in the Summer despite the objections and belief we would challenge for the title again this season.

The point is a fit Sturridge may have papered over some cracks for parts of the season but the final outcome would have been the same, you can not defend like we have done this season and expect to challenge for 4th  let alone top spot.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #662 on: May 24, 2015, 05:35:15 pm »
I'm genuinely asking this but you were saying the opposite yesterday mate. How has your opinion gone 360?
I still don`t want him gone but there`s no coming back after this, he will be sacked probably even tonight. Fsg won`t ignore all the noise. He`s got only himself to blame though for putting himself into this position.

BTW - What you want to say there is 180 not 360. 360 means I`m back where I started.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #663 on: May 24, 2015, 05:35:21 pm »
And you can, indeed, keep fucking off. Thanks.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #664 on: May 24, 2015, 05:35:27 pm »
Rodgers got only himself to blame. He found something that worked for this group of players , abandoned it and will pay the price with his job. Just hope it`s anybody but Klopp. His brand of football is horrible and not compatible to how Lfc should play imo.

Ditching 3 at the back so quickly after it had worked so well was strange, the injuries to key players in that system probably made the decision easier but i didn't understand it.

At this moment i think the club needs shock therapy and someone like Klopp will come in and revitalise the place by the strength of his personality, when you add to that he would also attract some top players that we badly need, if we can get him i think at this point we have to go all out for it.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #665 on: May 24, 2015, 05:35:29 pm »
Gave us our best season in 25 years. Not sure it's possible to carry on. Something rotten happening.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #666 on: May 24, 2015, 05:35:30 pm »
Is Rodgers going to progress us in Europe? No. Thats been my biggest gripe since he's been here. The dossier got him a wonderful run last season but sadly it ends here.

Today is about Gerrard. Good luck and thanks for everything.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #667 on: May 24, 2015, 05:35:31 pm »
I'm genuinely asking this but you were saying the opposite yesterday mate. How has your opinion gone 360?

The 6-1 hit him so hard that it made him go from blaming FSG to blaming Brendan.
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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #668 on: May 24, 2015, 05:35:32 pm »
Great squad that underperformed, sadly.

Brendan has the potential to be a top manager - if he can learn from this season
And if he's given the chance...

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #669 on: May 24, 2015, 05:35:37 pm »
So sad to see Rodgers in that state, have a lot of respect for him, first title challenge since 09, first manager to make us 'believe' since Rafa.

Some of you have been out for him all season, but thats as much as a reflection of you, that it is Rodgers.

If Klopp comes in again, we're back to square one, again.

Another couple years before we challenge for the league title, unless the owners back him and we manage to get this summer pretty much perfect.

Or maybe the knives have come out for him when it became increasingly clear how our entire season was hinged on sturridge staying fit and balotelli not playing to form?

Much of the blame for this season has been down to Rodgers. His comments today just confirm that he has to go. How can he basically put all the blame on the team like that - basically saying "see they r hopeless like I expected them to be!" And if he foresaw it why did he play them then?!

Rodgers is more to blame than any other one person for this debacle and he has to be sacked.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #670 on: May 24, 2015, 05:35:42 pm »
Why would Klopp want to join this circus?

1- Players who don't want to be here.
2- Owners who know f-all about footie.
3- A transfer committee with Ian Ayre in it.
4- Ian Ayre....

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #671 on: May 24, 2015, 05:35:56 pm »
Difficult to see BR hanging on now, especially with the likes of Rafa and Klopp being available. 

The fact is that during the last 10 games we had a great chance to secure 4th spot, and instead our stats are: won 3, lost 5, drawn 2 ... and often with woeful performances as per the first half of the season. 

The question is whether this can be a learning experience for Brendan, enabling us to kick on next time.  Unfortunately I don't think so. 

I'm not a blind Rafa fan, but he'd be my choice.  He's still young enough, would definitely be hungry enough, knows the club and how the fans tick.  Plus, he deserves a shot with better owners than he had to put up with before.  When he left I thought that it was for the wrong reasons and we (as a club) should be careful what we wished for.  For 5 years we'd become a truly feared force in Europe for the first time since the 1980s.  Now we're back to being a joke. 

Klopp did a great job with Dortmund until this season, but I think we're a very different proposition in a much more competitive league, and it would be a massive gamble that I do not think would pay off.  Rafa is the best of the others available, and at the very least we should interview him quickly (Ayre needs to swallow his pride if that is required ... LFC needs to come first and I think there's unfinished business for Rafa and LFC without romanticising the situation) before Real Madrid get him. 

Anyway, back to where we are today ... gratitude to BR for last season, but I can't help but wonder how much of that was a freak season galvanised by a peculiar confluence of circumstances. 

The fact is that our defence if anything has gone backwards from a bad situation, without SaS our attack has been toothless, and we've shown very little spirit.  Ultimately that does come down to the manager, and there are probably better ones available for LFC at this time and for the foreseeable future.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #672 on: May 24, 2015, 05:36:06 pm »
Rafa is proven, he's not a pipe dream. FSG should pull out all the stops to get him and ignore Ian Ayre, etc.
He loves it here, his family is here and we know he can make us kings again.

Klopp is unproven in the premier league, he wasn't responsible for the signings in Dortmund, his geggenpressing doesn't suit a lot of our players and how would it fare against the bottom half of the table? 

Klopp is a really good manager, of that i have no doubt. But he is a risk.


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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #673 on: May 24, 2015, 05:36:16 pm »
This was dreadful and Brendan obviously looks shell shocked by how it's gone, but unless we've got a top drawer manager waiting in the wings, then I'd still keep him.

No changing things for the sake of it.  Either get Klopp or Benitez or Ancelotti or Carver, or don't bother.

Awful today - no other words - playing the season pretty much with no striker hasn't helped and constant changing of formations either.  Not sure getting in a new manager is the answer or if just looking for a quick fix - reality is that the top 4 are a long way financially ahead of us and the gaps getting wider - doesn't help that we really have bought in some terrible players over the last couple of years whilst losing some of our best.

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #674 on: May 24, 2015, 05:36:18 pm »
I've just cracked into the MDMA.

Should take the edge off things.
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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #675 on: May 24, 2015, 05:36:24 pm »
Benitez would relish it, Ancelotti is taking a year out, if he is indeed leaving. De Boer, I really don't know enough about and Klopp imo is a huge risk, though we would be better than we currently are under his tutelage.

What risk? We'd finish 7th at worst in this shite league with any half decent manager. There's really no risk given where we are.
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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #676 on: May 24, 2015, 05:36:26 pm »
Gave us our best season in 25 years. Not sure it's possible to carry on. Something rotten happening.
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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #677 on: May 24, 2015, 05:36:33 pm »
Bloody hell, lol. Some of you are obsessed.

Mad isn't it. They've convinced themselves that you are Rodgers and that therefore you deserve all the bile.
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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #678 on: May 24, 2015, 05:36:35 pm »
Unable to watch the game due to exams due in a couple of days, but how on earth did this happen? :o

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Re: Stoke 6-1 Gerrard
« Reply #679 on: May 24, 2015, 05:36:42 pm »
Everyone's angry...

Let's not all get too over excited.

Let's give time the chance to heal and let bygones be bygones eh?

Right now I count 5 posters with personal attacks so far?

But that seems to be okay apparently, Tepid.
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