Author Topic: The Attack (Read 397620 times)

killer-heels · « **Reply #4440 on:** March 26, 2015, 10:50:56 pm »

At least its not the same injury as last time.

Haggis36 · « **Reply #4441 on:** March 26, 2015, 10:52:16 pm »

I seriously hope that big fat contract we gave him was heavily dependent on his fitness...

At this rate we'll need a new first choice striker nevermind a backup.

spider-neil · « **Reply #4442 on:** March 26, 2015, 10:52:22 pm »

One thing for certain, next season we have to view Sturridge as a luxury rather than the main striker. Sterling has to play through the middle and we have to spend big to bring in a top class forward.

harryc · « **Reply #4443 on:** March 26, 2015, 10:59:19 pm »

Sturridge out with a injury...............nothing new then.

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #4444 on:** March 26, 2015, 11:03:44 pm »

Quote from: holymoly on March 26, 2015, 10:52:16 pm

I seriously hope that big fat contract we gave him was heavily dependent on his fitness...

At this rate we'll need a new first choice striker nevermind a backup.

I think we have enough evidence to suggest we can't rely on him as our main man.

litliper · « **Reply #4445 on:** March 26, 2015, 11:06:17 pm »

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/566611/Liverpool-Daniel-Sturridge-injury-blow-Arsenal-clash

Don't specify how long he'll be out for. Just that he's a doubt for Arsenal.

AnfieldRD19 · « **Reply #4446 on:** March 26, 2015, 11:09:15 pm »

The fucking Derrick Rose of football

Caston · « **Reply #4447 on:** March 26, 2015, 11:09:37 pm »

In other news water is wet

007.lankyguy · « **Reply #4448 on:** March 26, 2015, 11:11:45 pm »

Quote from: harryc on March 26, 2015, 10:59:19 pm

Sturridge out with a injury...............nothing new then.

Precisely sums up the overriding mood - not even annoyed now, just resigned to it.

Red Sea · « **Reply #4449 on:** March 26, 2015, 11:12:31 pm »

Damn, really feel for the guy, must be incredibly stressful and frustrating for him.
But this is life.

Rouge · « **Reply #4450 on:** March 26, 2015, 11:16:57 pm »

Quote from: Red Sea on March 26, 2015, 11:12:31 pm

Damn, really feel for the guy, must be incredibly stressful and frustrating for him.
But this is life.

The best response on the whole page, lets hope he gets better soon

killer-heels · « **Reply #4451 on:** March 26, 2015, 11:16:59 pm »

You would imagine that if we fail to beat Arsenal, Blackburn and Villa that he will just get the rest of the season off. Unless of course we get close to Utd again.

Michel · « **Reply #4452 on:** March 27, 2015, 01:30:38 pm »

We need to sign a top striker in the summer.Unfortunately we can't rely on Sturridge.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #4453 on:** March 27, 2015, 01:40:04 pm »

Top striker needs to come in, simple as that. Sturridge is a luxury extra to have who can play sometimes but not somebody you can build a team around.

Sturridges playing time prior to this season:

@DanKennett: This concerns me: Daniel Sturridge % of #EPL minutes played last 4 seasons:
10/11 33%
11/12 66%
12/13 37%
13/14 67%
Overall 51%
#LFC

God knows what it is now

killer-heels · « **Reply #4454 on:** March 27, 2015, 01:43:05 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on March 27, 2015, 01:40:04 pm

Top striker needs to come in, simple as that. Sturridge is a luxury extra to have who can play sometimes but not somebody you can build a team around.

Sturridges playing time prior to this season:

@DanKennett: This concerns me: Daniel Sturridge % of #EPL minutes played last 4 seasons:
10/11 33%
11/12 66%
12/13 37%
13/14 67%
Overall 51%
#LFC

God knows what it is now

So next year we are due 60+%. Result

12/13 is a bit of a red herring isn't it? Wasnt he on the bench a lot for Chelsea that season?

Michel · « **Reply #4455 on:** March 27, 2015, 01:43:30 pm »

He is 26% this season.

plura · « **Reply #4456 on:** March 27, 2015, 01:44:24 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on March 27, 2015, 01:40:04 pm

Top striker needs to come in, simple as that. Sturridge is a luxury extra to have who can play sometimes but not somebody you can build a team around.

Sturridges playing time prior to this season:

@DanKennett: This concerns me: Daniel Sturridge % of #EPL minutes played last 4 seasons:
10/11 33%
11/12 66%
12/13 37%
13/14 67%
Overall 51%
#LFC

God knows what it is now

Unfortunately you are very correct. It felt a bit before that you could possibly believe a bit at least that he would turn it around. Not completely, but up his game tally to at least 75% or so. Now at best he will play half the games at max. It's very unfortunate considering his talents, but it's our reality and we desperately need one of his talents to come in, one who can actually be fit for larger parts of the season.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #4457 on:** March 27, 2015, 01:46:53 pm »

The seasons before us he would have been on the bench a lot so that's probably slightly misleading. No denying his bad injury record with us but still need to consider it.

killer-heels · « **Reply #4458 on:** March 27, 2015, 01:48:11 pm »

Cue the mass hysteria

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #4459 on:** March 27, 2015, 01:53:49 pm »

It's kind of like having Owen again, great when he's in the team and fully fit, but seems to be either injured or recovering from injuries too often.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #4460 on:** March 27, 2015, 01:56:23 pm »

Quote from: killer_heels on March 27, 2015, 01:43:05 pm

So next year we are due 60+%. Result

12/13 is a bit of a red herring isn't it? Wasnt he on the bench a lot for Chelsea that season?

That's true, but even looking at the injuries since he joined us, there's a very worrying trend:

Hip/Thigh Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2015 March 22nd
Hip/Thigh Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2014 November 18th
Calf/Shin Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2014 October 13th
Thigh Muscle Strain    Liverpool Injuries    2014 September 5th
Hamstring Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2014 July 31st
Hip/Thigh Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2014 June 14th
Hamstring Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2014 April 13th
Ankle/Foot Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2013 November 29th
Hip/Thigh Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2013 November 9th
Hip/Thigh Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2013 September 1st
Ankle/Foot Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2013 May 29th
Hip/Thigh Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2013 March 19th
Hip/Thigh Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2013 February 25th
Hip/Thigh Injury    Liverpool Injuries    2013 February 3rd

Nearly all of them are hip/thigh and most seem to be muscle problems rather than impact injuries. Big summer ahead to find the right striker to take us forward

KiNki · « **Reply #4461 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:00:40 pm »

nothing like waiting for official news.

lionel_messias · « **Reply #4462 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:03:42 pm »

So here's the question then. We need goals this season, like desperately. Sterling (if fit enough) has shown he can operate as a striker, with good pressing and movement etc. But at this stage he is not a natural striker yet (if he ever will be, and if that's to be at LFC)

But Balotelli: what was the point of spending £16 million on him if he is not called into action now? As a starter. Lambert is nowhere, Borini is in a parallel universe playing Fifa and earning lots of money. Unless Mario is ruining every training session, surely now is time to fit him into a formation, even as a partner for Raheem?

spider-neil · « **Reply #4463 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:11:18 pm »

Sterling will play throw the middle again. Frankly, we have created more chances and looked dynamic with Sterling rather than Sturridge through the middle.

harryc · « **Reply #4464 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:15:05 pm »

Quote from: spider-neil on March 27, 2015, 02:11:18 pm

Sterling will play throw the middle again. Frankly, we have created more chances and looked dynamic with Sterling rather than Sturridge through the middle.

Your right since Sturridge has returned we have looked blunt up top. Daniel has just not offered the pace and mobility that our game requires.

Not sure if it's a mental thing with him or the injuries have taken there toll.

Fordy · « **Reply #4465 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:15:33 pm »

Sturridge is injury prone and can't be counted on.

We urgently need 2 quality forwards in the summer.

robgomm · « **Reply #4466 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:18:15 pm »

Quote from: spider-neil on March 27, 2015, 02:11:18 pm

Sterling will play throw the middle again. Frankly, we have created more chances and looked dynamic with Sterling rather than Sturridge through the middle.

True, can maybe play him with Balotelli too.

Rojo O Muerto · « **Reply #4467 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:20:43 pm »

Quote from: Fordy on March 27, 2015, 02:15:33 pm

Sturridge is injury prone and can't be counted on.

We urgently need 2 quality forwards in the summer.

Ings and Charlie Austin then?

Vinay · « **Reply #4468 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:23:04 pm »

Quote from: Rojo O Muerto on March 27, 2015, 02:20:43 pm

Ings and Charlie Austin then?

spider-neil · « **Reply #4469 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:31:42 pm »

Liverpool may as well hold Sturridge back until next season. He his body right and give him a good pre season. Liverpool's number priority in the summer needs to be getting a top class striker. I personally would go for Lacazette. Pace, power and can work the channels. Sturridge is being more a luxury and less someone you can rely on.

Mamadou · « **Reply #4470 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:34:48 pm »

it was very stupid from the club to give him that 150k a week deal, knowing his injury record

spider-neil · « **Reply #4471 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:36:40 pm »

Quote from: Mamadou on March 27, 2015, 02:34:48 pm

it was very stupid from the club to give him that 150k a week deal, knowing his injury record

The deal is for several years not just one season. They need to get to the root of the problems, though.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #4472 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:37:04 pm »

Quote from: Mamadou on March 27, 2015, 02:34:48 pm

it was very stupid from the club to give him that 150k a week deal, knowing his injury record

I get the feeling much of it is performance/appearance based. Surely the club isn't crazy enough to give a player with such an injury record a flat wage

killer-heels · « **Reply #4473 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:38:47 pm »

Hopefully a nice summer with no football gives his muscles some good time to rest. Its too early to write him off though sometimes players have seasons like this. He was out for a long time and then thrust back into a very hectic and important period for us.

Mamadou · « **Reply #4474 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:41:08 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on March 27, 2015, 02:37:04 pm

I get the feeling much of it is performance/appearance based. Surely the club isn't crazy enough to give a player with such an injury record a flat wage

i wouldn't be surprised...the club has done crazy things

spider-neil · « **Reply #4475 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:42:15 pm »

Quote from: killer_heels on March 27, 2015, 02:38:47 pm

He was out for a long time and then thrust back into a very hectic and important period for us.

Yep. I think if we had strikers who were scoring he would have been eased in rather than dropped into the deep end. You could tell he wasn't moving completely freely.

killer-heels · « **Reply #4476 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:43:42 pm »

Hopefully we have used all our bad luck charms this season. Injuries, lack of form throughout, no strikers.

wemmick · « **Reply #4477 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:45:22 pm »

Quote from: spider-neil on March 27, 2015, 02:31:42 pm

Liverpool may as well hold Sturridge back until next season. He his body right and give him a good pre season.

Agreed. Time to shut him down for the season, and let the physios work with him for three or four months leading into the pre-season. They've got to figure something out or the club may need to sell him after next season. Wonderful player, but he can't contribute much to the team if he never reaches peak fitness for a sustained period.

GregCharrua · « **Reply #4478 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:45:39 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on March 27, 2015, 02:37:04 pm

I get the feeling much of it is performance/appearance based. Surely the club isn't crazy enough to give a player with such an injury record a flat wage

Surely it is tied to performance and appearance.

But yes. You get the feeling we need to step out of our usual way of doing things and pay for quality. We were willing to do it with Suarez. But what top striker who is high odds to come in and do a job in our side would move to Liverpool? I can't think of many besides Benzema, and I can't imagine him leaving Madrid for Liverpool, much as I wish I could.

Really puts into perspective Suarez and how unimportant his bans were. What he miss, 8-10 games a season, all because of bans? That's nothing! Fit for every fucking match... damn his wife.

spider-neil · « **Reply #4479 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:48:49 pm »

You could argue it would almost be worth blowing the entire budget on a quality forward and using our kids to pad out the squad, rather than several so so signings. Our striker signings this season, heck the last two seasons, have been nothing short of a disaster.