Topic: Luis Suarez

[juan1001]

Ajax - 159 apps 111 goals in all competitions.
Liverpool - 133 apps 82 goals in all competitions.
Barca - 94 games 81 goals in all competitions.

With his next goal for Barca he will equal the goals scored for Liverpool (in 38 fewer games).

[sinnermichael]

Feel genuinely privileged to have watched the guy here. Stupendous footballer.

[Gnurglan]

Ajax - 159 apps 111 goals in all competitions.
Liverpool - 133 apps 82 goals in all competitions.
Barca - 94 games 81 goals in all competitions.

With his next goal for Barca he will equal the goals scored for Liverpool (in 38 fewer games).

Unreal, isn't it?
386 games - 274 goals. 0.71 goals/game. Now consider this, that's ten 38 game league seasons. His average(!) per season is 27 goals.

[redgriffin73]

Ajax - 159 apps 111 goals in all competitions.
Liverpool - 133 apps 82 goals in all competitions.
Barca - 94 games 81 goals in all competitions.

With his next goal for Barca he will equal the goals scored for Liverpool (in 38 fewer games).

Insane.

[GreatEx]

Suarez has played 600 minutes more and Messi hasn't been 100% fit for a lot of the season.

Suarez probably hasn't been 100% fit either but it doesn't matter, he plays anyway and scores anyway.

[Alan_X]

Loved it so much he threatened to sue us to go to Arsenal innit. Wish Studge got the support this guy does.

They aren't mutually exclusive. He loved it here and always gave everything on the pitch. Even though he loved it here he thought he could progress better than he could at Liverpool.

Sturridge has got nothing up do with it.

[muyuu]

Suarez probably hasn't been 100% fit either but it doesn't matter, he plays anyway and scores anyway.

Suarez has been the more prolific scorer this season, but by watching their games I still think Messi is the best player in the world and makes the most difference when fit.

Both Suarez and Messi have been better this season than Cristiano Ronaldo and Neymar, who have had great patches of form but lacked consistency.

[rowan_d]

Only scored 15 in his first 18 months with us as well iirc

Maybe a few more with cup games

[keyo]

Only scored 15 in his first 18 months with us as well iirc

Maybe a few more with cup games

cos he wasn't a natural goalscorer.....and he needed work 

[kcbworth]

Keeping Ronaldo at bay in the golden boot race

[McrRed]

Keeping Ronaldo at bay in the golden boot race

2 excellent finishes there. You can tell he's hungry for that title-winning matchball 

[rscanderlech]

cos he wasn't a natural goalscorer.....and he needed work 

Well his finishing was occasionally pathetic.

People werent wrong to say that he was struggling with his finishing. Even now he misses a lot of great chances.

[kcbworth]

Keeping Ronaldo at bay in the golden boot race

And... Ronaldo has been taken off (presumably rested for the CL final) so that's it... Lusito is the first man to break the Messi/Ronaldo duopoly on the La Liga golden boot crown in 7 years

[TheShanklyGates]

Hattrick to seal the title and the golden boot. Well in Luis.

[Chakan]

40 for the season. Wow

[El Lobo]

Well his finishing was occasionally pathetic.

People werent wrong to say that he was struggling with his finishing. Even now he misses a lot of great chances.

[rscanderlech]

Well he does actually still miss a lot of great chances. Some strikers are pure poachers who are unbelievably dependable once they are through on goal. Suarez is not that type of striker. Even if he scored a hattrick today an 59 for the season the fact is that does quite regularly mess up good chances and he has did so at Liverpool and even at Ajax.

This doesn't mean that he isn't an extraordinary player.

[El Lobo]

Well he does actually still miss a lot of great chances. Some strikers are pure poachers who are unbelievably dependable once they are through on goal. Suarez is not that type of striker. Even if he scored a hattrick today an 59 for the season the fact is that does quite regularly mess up good chances and he has did so at Liverpool and even at Ajax.

This doesn't mean that he isn't an extraordinary player.

I can't think of many, if any, players I'd rather have through on goal than Luis.....

Have you got any stats to back up what you're saying? Chance conversion etc? I don't watch much Barca but he's looked pretty fucking lethal when I have.

[Zlen]

Messi won't like this, not one bit.
Well done Luis, best footballer today.

[BarryCrocker]

40 League Goals
14 goals in last 5 games
8 hat-tricks
League Title
Pichichi Title
European Golden Boot
84 goals in 95 appearances for Barca

The lads doing alright.

[rscanderlech]

I can't think of many, if any, players I'd rather have through on goal than Luis.....

Have you got any stats to back up what you're saying? Chance conversion etc? I don't watch much Barca but he's looked pretty fucking lethal when I have.

Of course he is a lethal striker and atatistically he is very impressive, but if you watch Barcelona regularly you will see that he misses a decent number of good chances. Not in the last five games, though. Back when people were complaining of his finishing in 2010-11 and 2011-12, he used to miss countless chances--usually created by his own genius, and he has obviously imprpved remarkably as a player since then.

I was only pointing out that back in that period it was quite reasonable to say that he was not a good finisher: he really wasn't.

[B0151?]

Lad is a fantastic finisher and misses his fair share of chances like any striker. Load of shite that he's not a very good finisher in my opinion. You give him chances, he'll get you goals. First season and a half here, we gave him fuck all chances.

[Redinho]

Nice one Luis, deserves it.

[rscanderlech]

I remember people on rawk mentioning back in the day that even in his 49-goal season at Ajax, he had been super-frustrating for missing the easiest chances, only to score harder ones, and that e shouls have had far more than 49 goals that year.

It's alright to say that he used to be an erratic finisher, capable of sublime moments and hilarious ones at the same time. Now he is a brilliant finisher but still famously missed an open goal, penalties and he nad Neymar had a spell of competing to miss chances Messi was creating for them not too long ago.

There are some top strikers who dont really miss those chances as often. Overall they are inferior to Suarez since finishing when through on goal is only one of many parts of being a goalscorer.

[El Lobo]

I literally have no idea why you'd choose the day he wins La Liga, scores a hat-trick in the title clincher and wins goodness knows how many goalscoring awards and sets goodness knows how many goalscoring records to question his goalscoring ability

[SlowRap]

We can tell our children we've seen him wearing red of Liverpool.

[seal75]

I remember people on rawk mentioning back in the day that even in his 49-goal season at Ajax, he had been super-frustrating for missing the easiest chances, only to score harder ones, and that e shouls have had far more than 49 goals that year.

It's alright to say that he used to be an erratic finisher, capable of sublime moments and hilarious ones at the same time. Now he is a brilliant finisher but still famously missed an open goal, penalties and he nad Neymar had a spell of competing to miss chances Messi was creating for them not too long ago.

There are some top strikers who dont really miss those chances as often. Overall they are inferior to Suarez since finishing when through on goal is only one of many parts of being a goalscorer.

The guy is the best finisher on the planet right now. What are you on about exactly? 

[gazzalfc]

Meh he's alright

He just needs to do that on a wet Wednesday night in Stoke

Just please dont let it be for Man City

[rowan_d]

Lad is a fantastic finisher and misses his fair share of chances like any striker. Load of shite that he's not a very good finisher in my opinion. You give him chances, he'll get you goals. First season and a half here, we gave him fuck all chances.

Don't agree with this at all

He missed great chances constantly in 2011/12


What a player though, and an elite goalscorer. Kinda wish he still had freedom to shoot from all areas, and dribble through players.

[lindylou100]

What a player. Congratulations Luisito

[10 years on]

Messi won't like this, not one bit.
Well done Luis, best footballer today.

why woudnt he?

[Alan_X]

I literally have no idea why you'd choose the day he wins La Liga, scores a hat-trick in the title clincher and wins goodness knows how many goalscoring awards and sets goodness knows how many goalscoring records to question his goalscoring ability

Bizarre isn't it?

[Red Beret]

Luis Suarez is the footballing equivalent of John Wick.  A man of focus, commitment and sheer will.

[TomDcs]

What a player, amazing.

[riismeister]

His goal contribution (goals + assists) to minutes played ratio over the last three seasons has been practically level with Messi and Ronaldo. A goal or assist every 61 minutes over that time, Messi also at 61, Ronaldo at 59.
Difference is the other two have been their teams' main penalty takers during that time, while Luis has not.

Still there are people who think he's not on the same level as the other two. Those people are fools.

[El Lobo]

His goal contribution (goals + assists) to minutes played ratio over the last three seasons has been practically level with Messi and Ronaldo. A goal or assist every 61 minutes over that time, Messi also at 61, Ronaldo at 59.
Difference is the other two have been their teams' main penalty takers during that time, while Luis has not.

Still there are people who think he's not on the same level as the other two. Those people are fools.

This season he's not been on the same level as those two....

[Lawnmowerman]

Better than Messi. That's how i voted once upon a time. I know my grapes

[Youb]

Now get your ass home Luis.

[Shaved Crossbar]

I remember people on rawk mentioning back in the day that even in his 49-goal season at Ajax, he had been super-frustrating for missing the easiest chances, only to score harder ones, and that e shouls have had far more than 49 goals that year.

It's alright to say that he used to be an erratic finisher, capable of sublime moments and hilarious ones at the same time. Now he is a brilliant finisher but still famously missed an open goal, penalties and he nad Neymar had a spell of competing to miss chances Messi was creating for them not too long ago.

There are some top strikers who dont really miss those chances as often. Overall they are inferior to Suarez since finishing when through on goal is only one of many parts of being a goalscorer.

I agree with you that he's not 100% perfect when through on goal. But he has a 30% conversion rate this year, and that doubles both Messi and Ronaldo's. He used to be much more erratic, I completely agree with that.

But if you're talking about now, to call him erratic/not as good as the best when given a super easy chances, the only reason you might think he's worse is because it's a bigger deal when he misses. It's a bit of confirmation bias left over from when he missed chances for us. I remember Suarez missing a chance in a 2-2 draw at Sevilla last year and forget half the amazing goals he scored around that time.

[juan1001]

14 goals from the last 17 shots.