Topic: Luis Suarez

[LFCrenaissance]

The committee had to buy according to rodgers philosophy though. They obviously failed to collaborate well enough to buy right. Somewhere down the road there was a lost in translation moment and you cant just blame it on one party.

Well considering they continue to make what appear to be mediocre buys, maybe you can. Or will be able to soon enough.

The variable is the manager. The constant is the front office setup.

[LFCrenaissance]

5 years from now when the next superstar is traded for 120 million, we'll look back at this and think that it's absolutely absurd and demand for FSG's collective heads...

My point is that retrospective re-evaluation players are often farcical when the current circumstances are not taken into account - an above average player now costs 20 - 30 million; they're worth around 10 - 20 million 5 years ago.

Not the point at all.

It was cheap then. 65M for one of the top 3 players in the world (you can argue he's been the best in the world since he moved). A couple years later, an above average midfielder moves for a total outlay of probably close to twice that, all fees included. Raheem Sterling moved for 15M short of what Suarez did?! Crazy cheap, best business Barca has done in years.

What would Ronaldo or Messi have cost? Suarez is outperforming them both.

It was daylight robbery. No reason not to demand the full release clause, which still would have been cheap.

[jooneyisdagod]

You expected the bunch that were so bad at buy were good at selling?

To be fair the World Cup incident really hurt his value because it drove off Real. He would have been the first 100M player if they had got into a bidding war.

Were never going to get full value for him with only one bidder. Not that it matters, would have just bought more shit.

Once you get a rep as a selling club, it's hard to shake it and players expect to get their way. Torres, Mascherano, Alonso set the rep.

Not much to disagree with there. Nonetheless, 64m or 75m, it's an absolute bargain for a player of his quality.

[bird_lfc]

17 goals in 6 games. We were robbed.

I do wonder what with the inflation in the past year or so and the money being thrown about this summer - what he'd go for. If Pogba is worth almost £90m, well...

I really hope Ronald winning the Euro's with Portgual (I know he went off in the final but still) doesn't stop Luis winning player of the year as he deserves it.

[dangerpuss]

I can't see Suarez getting the Ballon D'Or. He deserves it but he wasn't even on the short list last year. Clearly an agenda there.

[King Klopp.]

I do wonder what with the inflation in the past year or so and the money being thrown about this summer - what he'd go for. If Pogba is worth almost £90m, well...

I really hope Ronald winning the Euro's with Portgual (I know he went off in the final but still) doesn't stop Luis winning player of the year as he deserves it.

It was absolute robbery at the time, never mind with inflation. Everyone even then said a world record fee would have been fair.

Still, how we managed to sell him for £10m less than his release clause is incredibly ridiculous. Even by our standards.

[AndyMuller]

Unbelievable player, probably the best I've ever seen in my lifetime.

[RayPhilAlan]

Interesting - is he taking free kicks over there now too?

Maybe just until Neymar comes back?

[rscanderlech]

It was absolute robbery at the time, never mind with inflation. Everyone even then said a world record fee would have been fair.

Still, how we managed to sell him for £10m less than his release clause is incredibly ridiculous. Even by our standards.

David Luiz moved for £50m the same time, give or take a year.

[Spanish Al]

The lad is priceless, no matter what we got for him it wouldn't have been enough.

Best in the world. And has been since 13/14. Its not even debatable anymore. Can he please come back next season?

[del potro]

He's quite ridiculously just getting better with age. We were ripped off. He's a player without a price and for me there's only 4 of those in the world at the moment. Ronaldo, Messi and Iniesta are the others for those wondering.

Iniesta? thats quite hilarious..

[del potro]

I can't see Suarez getting the Ballon D'Or. He deserves it but he wasn't even on the short list last year. Clearly an agenda there.

He wasn't on the shortlist last year because Neymar was better in the treble winning season. He will be on the shortlist this coming year but he won't win it because Ronaldo finally got his hands on a major international tournament.. Ronaldo winning the Champions League probably would have been enough to clinch it in all honesty.

[SwordInYourGut]

I can't see Suarez getting the Ballon D'Or. He deserves it but he wasn't even on the short list last year. Clearly an agenda there.

The lad is priceless, no matter what we got for him it wouldn't have been enough.

Best in the world. And has been since 13/14. Its not even debatable anymore. Can he please come back next season?

Come on, Messi is clearly better. Suarez would probably say the same thing if asked about it. Messi does way more in the build up phase, sets up most of Suarez and Barcelona's goals, and still posts ridiculous numbers.  I'd say Ronaldo and Suarez are at about the same level atm, but Ronaldo deserves the Ballon D'Or because he was central to Real winning the CL (The Wolfsburg hat-trick being the standout) and Portugal winning the Euros (Hungary and Wales games in particular). Having said all of that, come back home Luis, you mad mad bastard   

[Rush 82]

We wuz fucking robbed I tell ya!

[Corkboy]

Luis Suarez has a higher combined total of goals and assists in his first 100 appearances for Barcelona than Cristiano Ronaldo managed in his first 100 games for Real Madrid.

source

[Spanish Al]

88 goals and 43 assists in 100 games, yet he isn't considered the best in the world and is never in contention for the honour.

He has been the best since his last season with us. Only now he has left us he is, rather predictably, starting to get plaudits from the wider media.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

88 goals and 43 assists in 100 games, yet he isn't considered the best in the world and is never in contention for the honour.

He has been the best since his last season with us. Only now he has left us he is, rather predictably, starting to get plaudits from the wider media.

People are stuck in the cycle of only really looking at Messi & Ronaldo. Given he's won the CL and Euro's, Ronaldo will (just about) rightly win it this year but I honestly felt last year it should have gone to Suarez.

Of course he wasn't even in the top three.

[CraigDS]

Yeah nobody in the wider media thought he was any good when he was with us right? 

He's hardly ever, even now, put in with Messi or Ronaldo, even Neymar. He's always an after thought to mention it seems whenever anyone writes about the best player in the world.

[Chalky Boots]

88 goals and 43 assists in 100 games, yet he isn't considered the best in the world and is never in contention for the honour.

He has been the best since his last season with us. Only now he has left us he is, rather predictably, starting to get plaudits from the wider media.

To be fair he was getting plaudits his last season with us with most saying he was in the top 10 players in world football. I do agree though as far as discussing THE best player in the world he's never mentioned when for the past year he's undoubtedly been the best about.

People are caught in the rut of mentioning Messi or Ronaldo even though Ronaldo as an overall player hasn't truly been worthy of those claims for about 5 years now; yes he's still a phenomenal athlete and finisher but there's a lot of stat padding with him or being the player to get the 3rd,4th, 5th in a 6-1 rout. Contrast that to Luis who is usually the one who breaks the deadlock or gets them level as well as being a better all round player and it's impossible not to now say that-given his numbers- he's the best about, or at least par with Messi.

Personally love the chemistry him and Messi have as well, even down to the friendly one-upmanship that goes on between them.

[wah00ey]

To be fair he was getting plaudits his last season with us with most saying he was in the top 10 players in world football. I do agree though as far as discussing THE best player in the world he's never mentioned when for the past year he's undoubtedly been the best about.

People are caught in the rut of mentioning Messi or Ronaldo even though Ronaldo as an overall player hasn't truly been worthy of those claims for about 5 years now; yes he's still a phenomenal athlete and finisher but there's a lot of stat padding with him or being the player to get the 3rd,4th, 5th in a 6-1 rout. Contrast that to Luis who is usually the one who breaks the deadlock or gets them level as well as being a better all round player and it's impossible not to now say that-given his numbers- he's the best about, or at least par with Messi.

Personally love the chemistry him and Messi have as well, even down to the friendly one-upmanship that goes on between them.

I prefer the chemistry between him and Sturridge.

[SenorGarcia]

From Brendan's Champs League presser today:

 “First of all, when you speak about Luis Suarez you have to speak about the man. Luis Suarez is one of the most beautiful men you could come across."

“Very humble guy, who works tirelessly at his profession. He is super-professional, a family man who gives everything for his life as a footballer and his family. I had the pleasure of working with him for two years and he was incredible and as a footballer, he is the best in the world."

“The biggest compliment you can give Luis is that he came to an already world-class team and he made them even better. And when I see them play now, Barcelona would not be the same team without Luis Suarez."

[Gnurglan]

From Brendan's Champs League presser today:

 “First of all, when you speak about Luis Suarez you have to speak about the man. Luis Suarez is one of the most beautiful men you could come across."

“Very humble guy, who works tirelessly at his profession. He is super-professional, a family man who gives everything for his life as a footballer and his family. I had the pleasure of working with him for two years and he was incredible and as a footballer, he is the best in the world."

“The biggest compliment you can give Luis is that he came to an already world-class team and he made them even better. And when I see them play now, Barcelona would not be the same team without Luis Suarez."

Like those words from Rodgers. It's a good point that he made Barca better. One of my all time favourites due to his goals, assists and because it's such a joy to watch him in action.

[_00_deathscar]

I prefer the chemistry between him and Sturridge.

I don't recall Messi and Sturridge playing together...

[LallanaInPyjamas]

Love the Brodge and Suarez bromance.

[Advil]

From Brendan's Champs League presser today:

 “First of all, when you speak about Luis Suarez you have to speak about the man. Luis Suarez is one of the most beautiful men you could come across."

“Very humble guy, who works tirelessly at his profession. He is super-professional, a family man who gives everything for his life as a footballer and his family. I had the pleasure of working with him for two years and he was incredible and as a footballer, he is the best in the world."

“The biggest compliment you can give Luis is that he came to an already world-class team and he made them even better. And when I see them play now, Barcelona would not be the same team without Luis Suarez."

The last part absolutely nailed it but i cannot read the first two paragraphs without thinking of that Farley guy.  Haha.

[Red-Dread]

His first goal tonight.....

[Keith Lard]

The last part absolutely nailed it but i cannot read the first two paragraphs without thinking of that Farley guy.  Haha.

lol me too ... beautiful man ... a wonderful human being ... such character

[Big Red Richie]

Those stats are positively obscene, 

[Gerrard#1]

He deserves the Ballon D'Or.

[Alanslad]

Wish we could get him back

[sinnermichael]

68 goals in his last 58 games.

[King Klopp.]

Another goal and two assists today already and it's only half time.

What a fucking player.

[redgriffin73]

68 goals in his last 58 games.

Insane.

[Fiasco]

£70 odd million. A swindle of epic proportion.

[Keith Lard]

Felt at the time we got a shit fee.

These days I feel we were fucking ripped off.

Starting to prefer we forget the fella - honestly don't give a shit about him anymore.

Honestly, He doesn't fall into that category of ex red I genuinely care about. Daniel Agger for example - he's an ex red I still have affection for.

Great player mind. No denying it.

[BarryCrocker]

Felt at the time we got a shit fee.

These days I feel we were fucking ripped off.

Starting to prefer we forget the fella - honestly don't give a shit about him anymore.

Honestly, He doesn't fall into that category of ex red I genuinely care about. Daniel Agger for example - he's an ex red I still have affection for.

Great player mind. No denying it.

Not sure if serious.

[Keith Lard]

Not sure if serious.

I'm serious. Maybe I'm just feeling bitter tonight. All the goals he is scoring for Barcelona hurts a bit.

[BarryCrocker]

I'm serious. Maybe I'm just feeling bitter tonight. All the goals he is scoring for Barcelona hurts a bit.

Think its a bit bloody childish. Do you feel the same about Alonso?

[Keith Lard]

Think its a bit bloody childish. Do you feel the same about Alonso?

Sorry Dad

[farawayred]

The only thing that's wrong with Suarez is that he didn't get the chance to lift the title in the Red shirt. But he graced it, and I'm glad for that.