Author Topic: 2013 Six Nations Rugby thread (Read 65527 times)

Snail · « **Reply #1960 on:** March 23, 2013, 12:47:52 am »

Leigh is such a cutie.

Wingman · « **Reply #1961 on:** March 23, 2013, 07:24:54 am »

Quote from: The 5th Benitle on March 21, 2013, 09:45:17 pm

And?

It was a response to the poster that suggested you'd have to go back to 89 to find a weaker 15 than we'll see this year. Keep up

Rob K · « **Reply #1962 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:22:54 am »

Got told last night Wales are the best team in the world. Wasn't a fishing trip either, he truely believed it. Even when his (also Welsh) mate called him on it. Amazing what a win over England does to the memory for some.

Whoppers eh? They get everywhere.

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #1963 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:28:27 am »

Wingman

This is the 6 Nations thread not the Lions thread.
And actually your post was in response to a post about refereeing. You even quoted it.

Keep up.

jason42 · « **Reply #1964 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:30:43 am »

Quote from: Rob K on March 23, 2013, 10:22:54 am

Got told last night Wales are the best team in the world. Wasn't a fishing trip either, he truely believed it. Even when his (also Welsh) mate called him on it. Amazing what a win over England does to the memory for some.

Whoppers eh? They get everywhere.

For those 80 odd minutes last week, Wales possibly were the best side in the world. Had they been playing one of the big SH sides and played like they did, they might have won.

Wales are not the best team in the world, not even close...

Rob K · « **Reply #1965 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:47:22 am »

Quote from: jason23 on March 23, 2013, 10:30:43 am

For those 80 odd minutes last week, Wales possibly were the best side in the world. Had they been playing one of the big SH sides and played like they did, they might have won.

Wales are not the best team in the world, not even close...

This is it, the majority will say the same. Because sport isn't about extremes and teams don't go from the bestest ever to shite and back again. Unless you're 6 years old.
But that is how that guy sees things. Pre-Six Nations Wales were going to smash everyone but because i had the audacity to suggest England had a chance to win it (not a grand slam just to win) it was English arrogance.
I congratulated him on Wales' victory in the World Cup because apparently you'll going breeze through that as well.

Thing is i actually like Wales. But my god he makes it hard for me not to want you to lose now.

Motty · « **Reply #1966 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:57:26 am »

Quote from: Rob K on March 23, 2013, 10:47:22 am

This is it, the majority will say the same. Because sport isn't about extremes and teams don't go from the bestest ever to shite and back again. Unless you're 6 years old.
But that is how that guy sees things. Pre-Six Nations Wales were going to smash everyone but because i had the audacity to suggest England had a chance to win it (not a grand slam just to win) it was English arrogance.
I congratulated him on Wales' victory in the World Cup because apparently you'll going breeze through that as well.

Thing is i actually like Wales. But my god he makes it hard for me not to want you to lose now.

Suppose he thinks our football team is going to lift the trophy in Brazil aswell, after all we have beaten Scotland twice

Bet he's a Man U fan

jason42 · « **Reply #1967 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:00:34 am »

Quote from: Rob K on March 23, 2013, 10:47:22 am

This is it, the majority will say the same. Because sport isn't about extremes and teams don't go from the bestest ever to shite and back again. Unless you're 6 years old.
But that is how that guy sees things. Pre-Six Nations Wales were going to smash everyone but because i had the audacity to suggest England had a chance to win it (not a grand slam just to win) it was English arrogance.
I congratulated him on Wales' victory in the World Cup because apparently you'll going breeze through that as well.

Thing is i actually like Wales. But my god he makes it hard for me not to want you to lose now.

Whoppers do get everywhere....

I know there is a fair bit of banter in here between established posters who 'know' each other but then you'll get the odd newbie in here who will be over the top in his arrogance and that causes friction....

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #1968 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:08:14 am »

I mean every word I say.

jason42 · « **Reply #1969 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:16:28 am »

Quote from: Roxy Nick on March 23, 2013, 11:08:14 am

I mean every word I say.

Point. Proven. Period.

Rob K · « **Reply #1970 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:18:22 am »

Quote from: Shady77 on March 23, 2013, 10:57:26 am

Suppose he thinks our football team is going to lift the trophy in Brazil aswell, after all we have beaten Scotland twice
Bet he's a Man U fan

He actually is. Surprising quite when it comes to Welsh football though....

Motty · « **Reply #1971 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:30:15 am »

Quote from: Rob K on March 23, 2013, 11:18:22 am

He actually is. Surprising quite when it comes to Welsh football though....

haha fucking knew he'd be a manc

He'd have to be pretty delusional to brag about our football team

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #1972 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:42:22 am »

Quote from: jason23 on March 23, 2013, 11:16:28 am

Point. Proven. Period

Haha I knew it. By the way Jase you should suggest your mate Leigh asks out the actress Tuppence Middleton. Would give her a cracking name if they got married!

jason42 · « **Reply #1973 on:** March 23, 2013, 12:11:23 pm »

Quote from: Roxy Nick on March 23, 2013, 11:42:22 am

Haha I knew it. By the way Jase you should suggest your mate Leigh asks out the actress Tuppence Middleton. Would give her a cracking name if they got married!

Mrs Halfpenny? I don't get it.... $:-\$

Welshred · « **Reply #1974 on:** March 23, 2013, 12:12:16 pm »

Tuppence Halfpenny Jase...keep up

MBL? · « **Reply #1975 on:** March 23, 2013, 03:08:07 pm »

Quote from: Roxy Nick on March 23, 2013, 11:08:14 am

I mean every word I say.

What about all the shite you post on here?

That Kennedy moment · « **Reply #1976 on:** March 23, 2013, 05:09:35 pm »

Quote from: Wingman on March 21, 2013, 09:25:24 pm

Clive Woodward picked the weakest lions 15 I've ever seen

Maybe, but he still had some proven world-class players in that starting 15, and where there weren't world-class players there was huge experience, including some world-cup winners. I'm not a huge fan of Woodward, but his thinking wasn't too far off-beam.

Besides, he could've picked the strongest Lions team you've ever seen, and they would still have lost badly. That ABs side were out of this world in 2005.

jason42 · « **Reply #1977 on:** March 23, 2013, 05:12:55 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on March 23, 2013, 12:12:16 pm

Tuppence Halfpenny Jase...keep up

The whoosh was for Nick.....

That Kennedy moment · « **Reply #1978 on:** March 23, 2013, 05:18:01 pm »

Quote from: jason23 on March 23, 2013, 10:30:43 am

For those 80 odd minutes last week, Wales possibly were the best side in the world. Had they been playing one of the big SH sides and played like they did, they might have won.

Wales are not the best team in the world, not even close...

You're right - if they had played like that against Australia, NZ they might have won. But the suspicion is always there with Wales that they can only really play like that against the English, because it's the English.

Re last week - I can't remember seeing a better Wales performance since the great teams of the late 1970s. Obviously, all of Wales is hoping it wasn't a one-off, and that you can kick on from here. I tend to think you're underestimating England's contribution here… it's the needle factor. And you don't have that motivation against the SH sides.

I also think there's an innate lack of self-belief in the Welsh. Maybe it goes back to those great players of the 1970s being able to beat NZ and SA when they were playing for the Lions (and being the best of the Lions) but never being able to beat NZ even in your heyday. And if those great sides couldn't beat NZ… then cling on to the Andy Haden moment, and suck up second best every autumn/World Cup.

We'll see. But England have got a nightmare pool in the next World Cup.

jason42 · « **Reply #1979 on:** March 23, 2013, 08:58:32 pm »

Quote from: That Kennedy moment on March 23, 2013, 05:18:01 pm

You're right - if they had played like that against Australia, NZ they might have won. But the suspicion is always there with Wales that they can only really play like that against the English, because it's the English.

Re last week - I can't remember seeing a better Wales performance since the great teams of the late 1970s. Obviously, all of Wales is hoping it wasn't a one-off, and that you can kick on from here. I tend to think you're underestimating England's contribution here… it's the needle factor. And you don't have that motivation against the SH sides.

I also think there's an innate lack of self-belief in the Welsh. Maybe it goes back to those great players of the 1970s being able to beat NZ and SA when they were playing for the Lions (and being the best of the Lions) but never being able to beat NZ even in your heyday. And if those great sides couldn't beat NZ… then cling on to the Andy Haden moment, and suck up second best every autumn/World Cup.

We'll see. But England have got a nightmare pool in the next World Cup.

It's always nice to beat England - we've gotten quite used to it lately

The self belief is growing within the Wales boys - 3 Grand Slams and 4 6 Nations in the past 9 years will do that for you. Maybe the fact that there is actually nothing other than pride & bragging rights at stake in the AIs does not help Wales? There are a lot of ifs and buts in this next sentence but if Warburton had not been sent off v France, I think Wales would have won that game and gotten to the World Cup Final. That one game - the final against NZ- would have shown if Wales had a right to be there or not.

Which country do you think feels better right now - the English for having beaten the ABs in the Autumn but missed out on a Grand Slam or Wales who were shocking in the AIs but have just won back to back 6 Nations titles with a World Cup semi final in between?

archie · « **Reply #1980 on:** March 23, 2013, 09:13:19 pm »

Quote from: jason23 on March 23, 2013, 08:58:32 pm

It's always nice to beat England - we've gotten quite used to it lately

The self belief is growing within the Wales boys - 3 Grand Slams and 4 6 Nations in the past 9 years will do that for you. Maybe the fact that there is actually nothing other than pride & bragging rights at stake in the AIs does not help Wales? There are a lot of ifs and buts in this next sentence but if Warburton had not been sent off v France, I think Wales would have won that game and gotten to the World Cup Final. That one game - the final against NZ- would have shown if Wales had a right to be there or not.

Which country do you think feels better right now - the English for having beaten the ABs in the Autumn but missed out on a Grand Slam or Wales who were shocking in the AIs but have just won back to back 6 Nations titles with a World Cup semi final in between?

Surely most rugby fans realise that England are a team in progress and WAles are undoubtedly the better side? Of course, Rugby, more than it likes to admit has gone done the football road of: win a game and everyone's brilliant, lose and everyone's a disgrace.

Shouldn't your reference point be Woodward's England up to 2003?
A dominant team at home and able to compete against SH sides home and away.

jason42 · « **Reply #1981 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:01:33 pm »

Quote from: archie on March 23, 2013, 09:13:19 pm

Surely most rugby fans realise that England are a team in progress and WAles are undoubtedly the better side? Of course, Rugby, more than it likes to admit has gone done the football road of: win a game and everyone's brilliant, lose and everyone's a disgrace.

Shouldn't your reference point be Woodward's England up to 2003?
A dominant team at home and able to compete against SH sides home and away.

Not really. England were so far ahead of all the Home Nations in the Early Noughties. They were the first country to introduce SAG with Allan Pearson and that made their forwards stronger, more agile and quicker and that was borne out by your best ever year in 2003.
Yes, Wales had the 70s and bits of the 80s but England were the standard bearers but now the playing field is more level.

I do think the Aviva Premiership needs to reduce the foreigners playing as does the Top 14 as that is not helping either national team.

I would take being competitive against the SH teams, with the odd win here and there and to be in the mix for the 6 Nations.

Again, I'll ask would you swap your win against NZ for the win against Wales? Would Wales swap their win v England for a win against NZ, SA or Australia? I don't think Wales would swap....

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #1982 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:14:22 pm »

'Your win'

Awaits archie's response...

archie · « **Reply #1983 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:15:28 pm »

Quote from: jason23 on March 23, 2013, 10:01:33 pm

Again, I'll ask would you swap your win against NZ for the win against Wales? Would Wales swap their win v England for a win against NZ, SA or Australia? I don't think Wales would swap....

You're either implying that I am english (you'll be calling me George next)

Or just laughing at Ireland's outstandingly consistent record against NZ.

Halfpenny is shite btw, most overrated player of all time. Fact.

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #1984 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:17:38 pm »

Wales were obliterated by Ireland.

Such a shame the rest of the teams they encountered were trash.

Mutton Geoff · « **Reply #1985 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:27:08 pm »

We had too much strength and experience for a dam good young England side to cope with, simple as that happy with the win and the cup but take nothing away from the potential in the England Squad. As for Leigh I think it was the right choice but Mike Philips controlled most of the game behind a brilliant pack.

Mutton Geoff · « **Reply #1986 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:29:27 pm »

Quote from: Anywhichwayucan on March 23, 2013, 10:17:38 pm

Wales were obliterated by Ireland.

Such a shame the rest of the teams they encountered were trash.

Nice try watch they were in command in the first half but not after that. Only just stayed ahead given their massive first half lead, oh and what position did Ireland finish in?

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #1987 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:08:52 pm »

Ireland finished exactly where any nation with a dozen injuries would have finished.

jason42 · « **Reply #1988 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:29:38 pm »

Quote from: archie on March 23, 2013, 10:15:28 pm

You're either implying that I am english (you'll be calling me George next)
Or just laughing at Ireland's outstandingly consistent record against NZ.

Halfpenny is shite btw, most overrated player of all time. Fact.

I'm tired and posting while watching TV.....

jason42 · « **Reply #1989 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:30:25 pm »

Quote from: Anywhichwayucan on March 23, 2013, 10:17:38 pm

Wales were obliterated by Ireland.

Such a shame the rest of the teams they encountered were trash.

You're gonna need a bigger bait.....

jason42 · « **Reply #1990 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:31:35 pm »

Quote from: Anywhichwayucan on March 23, 2013, 11:08:52 pm

Ireland finished exactly where any nation with a dozen injuries would have finished.

Name 'em.....

Mutton Geoff · « **Reply #1991 on:** March 24, 2013, 12:49:35 am »

Quote from: Anywhichwayucan on March 23, 2013, 11:08:52 pm

Ireland finished exactly where any nation with a dozen injuries would have finished.

Funny enough check how many Welsh lads didn't play against Ireland through injury, in the end as the song goes its not how you start it's how you finish.

Ray K · « **Reply #1992 on:** March 24, 2013, 12:00:12 pm »

Quote from: Anywhichwayucan on March 23, 2013, 11:08:52 pm

Ireland finished exactly where any nation ~~with a dozen injuries would~~ who would pick Paddy Jackson over Ian Madigan deserve to have finished.

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #1993 on:** March 24, 2013, 12:09:02 pm »

Quote from: geoffstrong on March 24, 2013, 12:49:35 am

Funny enough check how many Welsh lads didn't play against Ireland through injury, in the end as the song goes its not how you start it's how you finish.

Strangely enough, as we got more injuries, we got worse.

We destroyed Wales, then injury after injury arrived.

Motty · « **Reply #1994 on:** March 24, 2013, 01:10:42 pm »

Quote from: Anywhichwayucan on March 24, 2013, 12:09:02 pm

Strangely enough, as we got more injuries, we got worse.

We destroyed Wales, then injury after injury arrived.

destroyed Wales hahahahaha, more like a mixture of you played well first half and we fumbled every single play we had, then we took control 2nd half

Red_Isle_Chap · « **Reply #1995 on:** March 24, 2013, 01:19:47 pm »

Quote from: Anywhichwayucan on March 24, 2013, 12:09:02 pm

Strangely enough, as we got more injuries, we got worse.

We destroyed Wales, then injury after injury arrived.

Or, to put it another way you were very good for 50 mins, and we were dogshit. Then, after you got to 30 points due far more to our abysmal play and lack of confidence from our awful 7 game losing streak going into it, we didn't concede another try all tournament and were utterly the best , despite having injuries and ireland finished where you deserved to because you were woeful in every game after it.

You're just lucky that france were even shitter than you.

And while were at it, i want to give a lot of credit to ROb Howley who I've fucking slaughtered on here at times. Fair play to him and i'm delighted that he showed me to be wrong, not just wrong, but very wrong.

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #1996 on:** March 24, 2013, 01:21:45 pm »

Completely destroyed Wales. 30-3 up after 40 odd minutes, complete demolition job, game was over. 30-3 up, perfectly natural for a team to take a breather, with plenty of tough games on the horizon.

Mutton Geoff · « **Reply #1997 on:** March 24, 2013, 02:12:33 pm »

Quote from: Anywhichwayucan on March 24, 2013, 01:21:45 pm

Completely destroyed Wales. 30-3 up after 40 odd minutes, complete demolition job, game was over. 30-3 up, perfectly natural for a team to take a breather, with plenty of tough games on the horizon.

shame is they seem to have taken a breather for the rest of the six nations,

Juan Loco · « **Reply #1998 on:** March 24, 2013, 02:31:56 pm »

Permatroll (noun) [plural: Permantrolls]

1. A person whose permanent state of attempting to rile a reaction has consumed all other facets of their being, and now they're nothing more than a series of hopeful, rarely humorous stabs in the dark aimed at garnering attention.

Anywhichwayyoucan was a permatroll who had spent so long at it that no one believed there was anything else to him any more.

Hope you've caught your breath now.

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #1999 on:** March 24, 2013, 02:44:08 pm »

Quote from: geoffstrong on March 24, 2013, 02:12:33 pm

shame is they seem to have taken a breather for the rest of the six nations,

You'll get no argument from me there.

Against Wales though, it was an impressive display.

Quote from: Juan Loco on March 24, 2013, 02:31:56 pm

Permatroll (noun) [plural: Permantrolls]

1. A person whose permanent state of attempting to rile a reaction has consumed all other facets of their being, and now they're nothing more than a series of hopeful, rarely humorous stabs in the dark aimed at garnering attention.

Anywhichwayyoucan was a permatroll who had spent so long at it that no one believed there was anything else to him any more.

Hope you've caught your breath now.

Not really trolling, at all.

I've already said numerous times Ireland were pretty horrendous throughout the tournament and I've already said I think we're in for a tough decade, but against Wales we were excellent, and totally dominant.

Wales beat England 30-3, after 80 minutes. We were beating Wales by that scoreline, after 40 odd minutes. The difference being Ireland had another 4 games to follow and took their foot off the gas, whereas Wales had the feel good factor of winning a Championship.

Not one element of trolling to that.