Topic: Home atmosphere (Fortress Anfield?)

[aggerdid]

i've stopped going this season apart from CL games. ludogrets was shite in the kop and madrid was worse than a league game in the centenary. think thats my lot cos if you cant rouse an atmosphere for real madrid its gane over. i'll still have some stories to tell my kids like me dad or grandad have told me like the champions league atmospheres under rafa but times have changed since then with the amount of corporates shoved into the ground. i paid 59 for wednesday. 3rd may 05 cl semi i paid 30 and even that was too much back then

[AB LFC]

Someone above said it best, Anfield is now full of customers rather than supporters.

[gregor]

There's nothing wrong with showing your respect, no matter how begrudgingly.

I remember watching us play barca at home in the CL, 11/12 years ago. They played us off the park in a similar manner and also won 0-3 I think. I remember them getting a standing ovation at the end.

Nothing wrong with it at all.

That's the thing though - I've seen plenty of teams applauded off at the end of a game at Anfield when they've given a good account of themselves, from Benfica to Havant and Waterlooville. But at the end of the game. I'm 30 so admittedly I'm not exactly a veteran but I've been going to the match for years and I've never seen all 3 subs applauded off like the Real Madrid ones were. I didn't understand it, it was almost as if people were awed by them. But even at my age I've seen everyone. There isn't a European heavyweight I haven't seen at Anfield with the exception of Bayern Munich. Without being arrogant I'm not awed by anyone, we're Liverpool not Oxford United.

It felt really weird in my opinion.

[Liamski-la]

Sad the amount of people considering dropping out.

I started going when I was taken by an cousin in the early 90's as 16 year old. I'm 40 now with three kids and its fucking expensive going 2/3 times a month but rarely do you get the same buzz that you used to get apart from the big games and some of those are flat if the crowd isn't taken away by the play on the pitch for the entire 90. Last time that happened for me was the zenit game.

Got to admit I'm considering dropping the amount of games I get to. You just don't feel it.

[Nessy76]

Salty much?
He's a great player, in fact, currently the best in the world, who cares if he played for United, he doesn't now.

Would have played for us if Phil Thompson hadn't been too afraid to upset Antony Le Tallec, too.

[MJohnson2]

This may sound drastic but I hope we get relegated this season, that way those corporate twats will fuck off and ticket prices will drop considerably. Plus a few decent aways, I.e Derby, Forrest, Leeds!

[redmen9]

Salty much?
He's a great player, in fact, currently the best in the world, who cares if he played for United, he doesn't now.

Me!!

I dislike him.  Granted, he is the world's best player, I rate him higher than Messi but I dislike him.  And there's no way on God's green earth I would applaud him, even if he'd put on a spectacular performance (which he didn't, he just took a chance really well). 

[jonnypb]

Pretty amazing support from the fans when your team is getting torn apart

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/best-fans-europe-week-are-4491526

[Redman0151]

I booed Ronaldo every time he touched the ball for the entire game to try help take him off his game/intimidate him/wind him up, and then clapped him off as he was subbed as a way of showing respect to his ability and accomplishments, I don't really see any issue with that

[ianburns252]

Wasn't there a big accident?

M62 was a mess that night.

Living over in Leeds these days I expect it to take a while but was absolutely ridiculous. Set off from work at 4 and due to the traffic I didn't actually get to my seat until 8 - nothing I could do about it, would have thought giving myself 3 and a bit hours to get over and get parked would be enough.

[SimplyRed91]

Was sat in lower centenary and it was fine for the first 15/20 minutes until a combination of the steward asking us to sit down & the goal killed it off. Tried to join the kop in most songs but it's hard when only you and a few others in that area are singing.

[jaffod]

Sad the amount of people considering dropping out.

I started going when I was taken by an cousin in the early 90's as 16 year old. I'm 40 now with three kids and its fucking expensive going 2/3 times a month but rarely do you get the same buzz that you used to get apart from the big games and some of those are flat if the crowd isn't taken away by the play on the pitch for the entire 90. Last time that happened for me was the zenit game.

Got to admit I'm considering dropping the amount of games I get to. You just don't feel it.

Pretty much sums it up. Been going for 40 years now and if it wasn't for the fact I take my lad I'm pretty sure I'd have spewed it by now. Give it another season maybe until he's old enough to go on his own and that will be it. Don't think Ill miss it I'm sad to say.
 Woke up today thinking I'll do some of the jobs that needs doing and then thought "fuck, I've got to go the match". That can't be right. No doubt some on here will call me a spoilt c*nt and give it the old "I'd walk across broken glass to be there" stuff but it is what it is, the ground is full of blerts and we're getting royally fleeced so it's no wonder a lot of the older fans feel this way.

[Narwin Dunez]

Spent the last few days glad I'm not going today.

Wake up and now I'm fucking gutted I'm not going.

It's got me in a bind. I want to give it up but I can't. I hate a lot of the people in the ground, but I want to be there anyway.

[jaffod]

Spent the last few days glad I'm not going today.

Wake up and now I'm fucking gutted I'm not going.

It's got me in a bind. I want to give it up but I can't. I hate a lot of the people in the ground, but I want to be there anyway.

I know mate, and the fans aren't much better.

[Pistolero]

first time i've wished there was an international break....

[BUSHMILLS]

This may sound drastic but I hope we get relegated this season, that way those corporate twats will fuck off and ticket prices will drop considerably. Plus a few decent aways, I.e Derby, Forrest, Leeds!

Nope, it sounds deranged.

[RainbowFlick]

This may sound drastic but I hope we get relegated this season, that way those corporate twats will fuck off and ticket prices will drop considerably. Plus a few decent aways, I.e Derby, Forrest, Leeds!

 

[Fromola]

Someone above said it best, Anfield is now full of customers rather than supporters.

That's how the club want it. It brings more money but it means no atmosphere and takes the soul away so it's whether the collateral damage is worth it. It makes our perpetual transfer market disasters all the more infuriating because fans have to help subsidise it with stupid prices.

[maher]

So is there any suggested solutions ?

[DangerScouse]

Salty much?
He's a great player, in fact, currently the best in the world, who cares if he played for United, he doesn't now.

He'll always be a manc c*nt. Some player though.

[jaffod]

So is there any suggested solutions ?

Been done to death mate, nothing will change until the arse falls out of the game and all the whoppers and beauts fuck off but just can't see that happening any time soon.

[DangerScouse]

Been done to death mate, nothing will change until the arse falls out of the game and all the whoppers and beauts fuck off but just can't see that happening any time soon.

Sadly spot on. Beyond the point of no return.

[Redman0151]

Been done to death mate, nothing will change until the arse falls out of the game and all the whoppers and beauts fuck off but just can't see that happening any time soon.

Or safe standing comes in, the day trippers won't want to be stood up for 2 hours

[KForshaw]

Why the hell are people suggesting just packing in going at all just because the atmosphere is a bit poor (to put it very kindly) at the moment? Its supporters like these that can happily fuck off and I won't be bothered. If everyone stops going because they thing the atmosphere isn't good enough for them then we will be left with a fucking shambles of a support and no one singing at all.

Better to go and sing on your own than not go at all. Stop being such babies and thinking the world owes you a favour and a good atmosphere if you're not even going to stick out the tough years and be a part of the little there is. The club has gone through tough times in recent years and have hit a dead patch in the clubs history with not much to sing for but fans still go and they still sing as best they can even with high ticket prices and a so called invasion of corporates.

Fans who jib off a game because "its only hull" and can't be bothered going when they know the atmosphere will be poor, but go to Real Madrid the week before, are the sort of people I would rather kick out our game and replace with some foreigner who has at least put in the bloody time and effort to get himself there, no matter how much they sing.

People compare our atmosphere last week to those of the old European nights, which is fucking stupid. Firstly its a group game, which half the time used to be reasonably average atmosphere anyway, and secondly "back in the day" we were usually beating these teams or putting up a huge fight so the atmosphere is obviously going to be bouncing. Its as if people expect a 3-0 loss to Real in the group stage to be the same atmosphere to the 1-0 win against Chelsea in the semis in 05.

A good few people on here need a reality check, not all, but a good few.

[swoopy]

All this out of town versus local shit needs to be put to bed. Everyone knows the club belongs to the locals and if you aren't a scouser quite frankly you are a guest in me fucking house so behave. All this I d rather ha e a foreigner shit is bollox.  If we were  on marks who d won fuck all there'd only be locals there. Cheap seats for scouser who have inherited the club and the problem is sorted. All these other blurts who go the game are there for the fame end of. Take a teaspoon of truth 3 times a day and you ll see. This coming from someone who was named in the liverpool squad in 1989.

Yep.. all the die hard locals who ensured that the Middlesborough game was fully sold out, and are doing the same for Swansea on Tuesday 

[Snail]

This coming from someone who was named in the liverpool squad in 1989.

You dictated the play so well, Saddam.

[Liamski-la]

Why the hell are people suggesting just packing in going at all just because the atmosphere is a bit poor (to put it very kindly) at the moment? Its supporters like these that can happily fuck off and I won't be bothered. If everyone stops going because they thing the atmosphere isn't good enough for them then we will be left with a fucking shambles of a support and no one singing at all.

Better to go and sing on your own than not go at all. Stop being such babies and thinking the world owes you a favour and a good atmosphere if you're not even going to stick out the tough years and be a part of the little there is. The club has gone through tough times in recent years and have hit a dead patch in the clubs history with not much to sing for but fans still go and they still sing as best they can even with high ticket prices and a so called invasion of corporates.

Fans who jib off a game because "its only hull" and can't be bothered going when they know the atmosphere will be poor, but go to Real Madrid the week before, are the sort of people I would rather kick out our game and replace with some foreigner who has at least put in the bloody time and effort to get himself there, no matter how much they sing.

People compare our atmosphere last week to those of the old European nights, which is fucking stupid. Firstly its a group game, which half the time used to be reasonably average atmosphere anyway, and secondly "back in the day" we were usually beating these teams or putting up a huge fight so the atmosphere is obviously going to be bouncing. Its as if people expect a 3-0 loss to Real in the group stage to be the same atmosphere to the 1-0 win against Chelsea in the semis in 05.

A good few people on here need a reality check, not all, but a good few.

It's not just the shite atmosphere. You can stand that for the one time in 3 months it is any good. It's a mixture of that and the cost. As the banner on the upper tier of the kemlyn pointed out, we're supporters not customers, but you don't feel that. Everything is geared up to wringing every last penny from us. I love the club but I hate what it has become.

I've got kids. I don't drink or smoke, In fact I do jack shit other than go to the football but I'm on the cusp of saying job done. It's to much. One more price rise and I can see myself turning my back on going to Anfield.

[Redman0151]

ticket price Banners were great today.

Saw some cockney twat moaning that they were getting in his way of taking pictures though hilariously enough, often wonder why these people get tickets on the kop though, it's like going to KFC and complaining about there being too much chicken

[sirKennyDaggers]

Atmosphere will be a lot better Tuesday.
More scousers for a start,especially young local kids who can afford to go to this game.

[Upinsmoke]

What do the back flags represent? I know there part of the protest, but I mean historically?

[Redman0151]

Atmosphere will be a lot better Tuesday.
More scousers for a start,especially young local kids who can afford to go to this game.

It won't be, there's a culture where many just don't go the game now, you can't just expect them to be happy to show up for a couple league cup games every year, and then told to fuck off for every other game and be happy with that

[AB LFC]

What do the back flags represent? I know there part of the protest, but I mean historically?

Anarchists have employed certain symbols for their cause, including most prominently the circle-A and the black flag, although anarchists have historically largely denied the importance of symbols to political movement.[1] Since the revival of anarchism around the start of the 21st-century concurrent with the rise of the anti-globalization movement, anarchist cultural symbols are widely present

[Maggie May]

It won't be, there's a culture where many just don't go the game now, you can't just expect them to be happy to show up for a couple league cup games every year, and then told to fuck off for every other game and be happy with that

Can see both sides of this Crosby.  On the one hand being able to see the reds at a reduced rate   and on the other being treated like cannon fodder and flung the crumbs. 

But what you say initially is more disrturbing.  Not wishing to appear a wise old owl, but a few years ago I said that my sister simply could not afford her lads to go to matches on a regular basis and they were not alone amongst their mates.  So instead of it being a must do to go to matches, as natural as breathing, it became a what the fuck let's do something else instead.  But clearly, from what you say, going to the match never figures with a lot of scouse youth.  And that is heartbreakingly sad.

[Maggie May]

Anarchists have employed certain symbols for their cause, including most prominently the circle-A and the black flag, although anarchists have historically largely denied the importance of symbols to political movement.[1] Since the revival of anarchism around the start of the 21st-century concurrent with the rise of the anti-globalization movement, anarchist cultural symbols are widely present

Well yeah.  Obviously.  I mean everyone knows that.  But what exactly were they for at Anfield? 

[Liamski-la]

Well yeah.  Obviously.  I mean everyone knows that.  But what exactly were they for at Anfield? 

Pretty much that the are a part of the atmosphere with the bright flags they normally wave. They take part. They are a supporter, not one of fsg's customers.

As part of the protest, they wave plain black, non colourful flags.

I'm not good with words, but you get the point.

[RainbowFlick]

Atmosphere will be a lot better Tuesday.
More scousers for a start,especially young local kids who can afford to go to this game.

We all know this won't be happening.

[Trev20]

We all know this won't be happening.

Yes. It'll be worse. Not that I mean to be too pessimistic but that's what it's come to.

[jaffod]

Wish they'd fuck off with the half-time 'entertainment' too, I'd rather watch blokes sticking pitchforks into the turf.

[Maggie May]

Pretty much that the are a part of the atmosphere with the bright flags they normally wave. They take part. They are a supporter, not one of fsg's customers.
 
As part of the protest, they wave plain black, non colourful flags.

I'm not good with words, but you get the point.

Oh yes you are very, very  good.  Don't take it like that.  I was just messing about and I can be clumsy at times.  Apologies.

That is a magnificent concept.  Black flag says : We are supporters not customers.  How fucking excellent. 

[Maggie May]

Wish they'd fuck off with the half-time 'entertainment' too, I'd rather watch blokes sticking pitchforks into the turf.

Oh Christ.  Not something else now for fuckksakes.