Topic: Could LFC be in the Champions League this season?

[bclfc]

Yeah, but we're not in the competition so that's null.

That's what I mean, though, the fact that we are not in the competition with the highest coefficient.  Probably not going to happen, just wanted clarification.

[Anthony]

It seems that UEFA have no precedent and rules for such a scenario. Lets say you are UEFA and presented with a scenario like this. What would you do?

Would you not admit your most highly rated team with the best market appeal? Preferebly one with a winning history and with new owners that have just bought a bunch of players? Or some random team from Belgium or Denmark?

still say this is not the way to go to CL. We dont need charity, too big of a club.

The precedent is there - it's what happens then the Titleholder slot is not used because they have already qualified in the Grooup Stages. This year Switzerland (Basel) benefitted and the next country down is Belgium (Racing Genk)

You are right that the rules do not appear to cover what happens if Qualifying is already under way but I can see one of the two scenarios occurring otherwise

1) A Free Draw of the Losers of the Champions QR4 (given Fenerbahche qualified as Champions

2) The Highest-Ranking loser from the Champions QR4

only then can I see them looking at the non-Champions (Arsenal) and then ourselves...

[swoopy]

I'll be watching the exeter game, regardless of the arsenal result what matters is what uefa say over the next few days ultimately. Very unlikely they would pick us

So who would they pick? Thats the million dollor question

[BobbyDavro]

If it did depend on arsenal loosing what game is everyone gonna be watching tonight? Think I'm gonna have to get some spare batteries for my remote!

Its fucking losing not loosing!

Would be very wrong and very funny if this came off.

[Lenin.]

Getting in to CL after finishing 6th would take the piss, every other team would kick off and I cannot see it happening.

Fuck 'em.

[No Appreciation of Liverpool Opposition]

I believe in Kenny more and more.

How did he know about this last season? Losing to Tottenham at home so we dont get in Europe to instead get an automatic CL place. He really is the king

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the sun probably has this ready for tomorrow's papers

[Number 7]

It would be amazing if we got put in, but because we were the 5th team from England, we weren't separated from the rest in the group draw and hence were drawn in the same group as the Mancs.

Never in a million years, but it would be immense.

We were the 6th team in England

[Paul JH]

It's quite sad that people are getting excited by this.

Cash wise it would be great for the club, but in football terms it's all wrong. Not to mention us not even getting into the Europa League to suddenly be gifted a position in the CL wouldn't sit well with me, sorry.

[cjc9020801Beverly Hills]

So are we the highest coefficient not in the CL this season?

seemingly but rule 2.10 of uefa rules i think says place will be given to next placed team in that countrys league. think thats it. read it somewhere this eve

[Smudgester]

Also possibly involved.

And already playing in the Europa League this season

[swoopy]

seemingly but rule 2.10 of uefa rules i think says place will be given to next placed team in that countrys league. think thats it. read it somewhere this eve

Trabzonspor are in for match fixing too

[Bernard Shakey]

I can't see UEFA letting them stay in if they are knocked out though, now THAT would be embarrassing! 

They let us in in 2006 despite not qualifying. Lucky, lucky Liverpool!

[Fontaine]

I believe in Kenny more and more.

How did he know about this last season? Losing to Tottenham at home so we dont get in Europe to instead get an automatic CL place. He really is the king

We'd have Rafa to thank really.  In this crazy hypothetical situation.

[bclfc]

Seeing as I started this, let's end it for now... (as if)


UEFA may or may not choose us, and we may or may not deserve it.  We've got a match in an hour, time to switch over to the pre-match thread and engage with that particular madness instead of this one!

 

[Mr Dilkington]

Really can't see this happening....

Platini has gone big on the 'giving smaller teams from lesser footballing nations' a chance in the big time. So when a space opens up, mmm let me think.... 'I know give it to Liverpool! England doesn't have nearly enough representation in the competition'.

The only way i could see UEFA giving us the spot is because it would boost the commercial side of the competition.

Nice thought, but i really don't see it happening.

[rowan_d]

This might make people think I'm mad but football wise, no thanks. It would seem like a piss take and also unfair to the team that finished above us.
Money wise I'd take it this season in a heartbeat.

Agreed.

[Redman0151]

 Don't think we have a hope in hell, if Arsenal get knocked out (big if) wouldn't they just put them back in or put Tottenham in CL and us in EL?

[barneystuta]

The precedent is there - it's what happens then the Titleholder slot is not used because they have already qualified in the Grooup Stages. This year Switzerland (Basel) benefitted and the next country down is Belgium (Racing Genk)

You are right that the rules do not appear to cover what happens if Qualifying is already under way but I can see one of the two scenarios occurring otherwise

1) A Free Draw of the Losers of the Champions QR4 (given Fenerbahche qualified as Champions

2) The Highest-Ranking loser from the Champions QR4

only then can I see them looking at the non-Champions (Arsenal) and then ourselves...

Just to check, do you mean because Barcelona won the title, but also their league, they are already in the groups? Meaning Basel and Genk bumped up?

[NuncaCaminarásSolo]

Its fucking losing not loosing!

Would be very wrong and very funny if this came off.

no need to loose your head

[Paul JH]

They let us in in 2006 despite not qualifying. Lucky, lucky Liverpool!

We were the champions of the competition though, which they'd never even thought about until then. Quite rightly the holders should defend the trophy they won.

[bclfc]

They let us in in 2006 despite not qualifying. Lucky, lucky Liverpool!

True, but we didn't play first, lose, and then get let back in.

[Number 7]

It's quite sad that people are getting excited by this.

Cash wise it would be great for the club, but in football terms it's all wrong. Not to mention us not even getting into the Europa League to suddenly be gifted a position in the CL wouldn't sit well with me, sorry.

Yeah. It's been blown out of proportion. In any case they would have to consider spurs over us.

[-Willo-]

People saying they do not want it, I'm sure you'll change your tune on say a Wednesday an hour before kick off against the big boys in Europe.

[Gnurglan]

It's quite sad that people are getting excited by this.

Cash wise it would be great for the club, but in football terms it's all wrong. Not to mention us not even getting into the Europa League to suddenly be gifted a position in the CL wouldn't sit well with me, sorry.

No chance, but I wonder what the odds are on LFC as CL winners in May 2012?

[Dr Manhattan]

NINE pages in an hour based on a wafer-thin story or rumour with little to no chance of it happening?

Awesomeness.

[BobbyDavro]

no need to loose your head

Aggggghhhhhhhhh!

[bclfc]

NINE pages in an hour based on a wafer-thin story or rumour with little to no chance of it happening?

Awesomeness.

RAWKSOMENESS!   

[thelinnen]

Don't think we have a hope in hell, if Arsenal get knocked out (big if) wouldn't they just put them back in or put Tottenham in CL and us in EL?

I don't see how spuds can go into the cl when they've already started playing el

[TepidT2O]

seemingly but rule 2.10 of uefa rules i think says place will be given to next placed team in that countrys league. think thats it. read it somewhere this eve

But if the team is withdrawn then the place cannot go to a team in the same FA......

So the next placed team in turkey can't have it.

[1021]

NINE pages in an hour based on a wafer-thin story or rumour with little to no chance of it happening?

Awesomeness.

Shade embarrasing as well.

[koppitekop11]

It's quite sad that people are getting excited by this.

Cash wise it would be great for the club, but in football terms it's all wrong. Not to mention us not even getting into the Europa League to suddenly be gifted a position in the CL wouldn't sit well with me, sorry.

Once again you continue to be the pessimist of RAWK. Lighten up Paul!

[Chakan]

NINE pages in an hour based on a wafer-thin story or rumour with little to no chance of it happening?

Awesomeness.

If RAWK had 400 members it would be half a page.

[Captain Relief]

It would surely be the most 'co-efficient' (or highest ranked) club that is not playing in Europe at all, not just the CL. This would mean that Arsenal's result today shouldn't matter on the decision, since even if they lose they'd be in the EL. I don't think there is a rule that over 4 teams of a country aren't allowed in the competition; UEFA could definitely make an exception as they did in 2005/06.

[drpepe]

They let us in in 2006 despite not qualifying. Lucky, lucky Liverpool!

We were the champions of the competition though, which they'd never even thought about until then. Quite rightly the holders should defend the trophy they won.

pedant

2005?

/pedant

[PhilAnderer]

NINE pages in an hour based on a wafer-thin story or rumour with little to no chance of it happening?

Awesomeness.

Fucking rediculous, eh? Get real people!
You'll never catch me posting in this thread

[Loco74]

Only on RAWK     

[thechulloran]

can't believe this thread hasn't been locked

[johnjohn]

Ok, it sounds like a very very long shot so I am not even going to get excited about this (yet), and yes there are probably lots of teams in other leagues who 'deserve' it more because of where they finished etc.

BUT if it is offered to us by Uefa then we should bite their flipping hand off!

Sure we are probably not equipped to sustain a top 4 place (our minimum target) and a CL campaign but it would mean, what, an extra £20m in revenue?  I imagine our deadline day transfers would be quite different!

[Gobias Industries]

We were the 6th team in England

Are you dim?

[No Appreciation of Liverpool Opposition]

if spurs end up with it we will be kicking ourselves that we let them have fifth.  i think we will get an el place though