Topic: The Anfield Wrap

[Fitzy.]

It varies for sure. Given that, the previous review with Rob, Neil and Sean, for me, was one of the best I have heard. I like Neil as one of the reviewers myself.

I agree - I guess it is a personnel issue at times. Andy has dropped in as the second contributor at times. Paul Cope isn't being used this season for the Review. That might be about availability or it might be an attempt to freshen up the show to avoid the same voices every week.

[Mr Dilkington]

I presume Sean is suggesting just switching their position rather than making them play wider - so Mane comes from the right and Salah from the left but the shape is identical. I presume Sean thinks this may discombobulate the opposition as it's not our usual approach.

He did say Salah should go on the left and 'get chalk on his boots' which would change things considerably. Average positions show that no matter the game, Salah is always our most advanced player, and pretty much always central. He's advocating a Sane type role for Salah by the sounds of it. Salah has pretty much played his whole career as an inside forward coming off the right, as well as a chunk of time at Roma playing off Dzeko, although he was still taking up similar positions to when he plays from the right.

Even if I disagree with him, I think there is some room for expanding on the idea.

[Fitzy.]

He did say Salah should go on the left and 'get chalk on his boots' which would change things considerably. Average positions show that no matter the game, Salah is always our most advanced player, and pretty much always central. He's advocating a Sane type role for Salah by the sounds of it. Salah has pretty much played his whole career as an inside forward coming off the right, as well as a chunk of time at Roma playing off Dzeko, although he was still taking up similar positions to when he plays from the right.

Even if I disagree with him, I think there is some room for expanding on the idea.

Yeah, would be interesting to explore - the chalk on his boots may just be a figure of speech for going wider rather than sticking him on the wing.

[Kashinoda]

Gutmann is absolutely plastered on the Pink, and he doesn't think we're very good.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Gutmann is absolutely plastered on the Pink, and he doesn't think we're very good.

yeah listening to it now he’s clearly hammered

[kennedy81]

Gutmann is absolutely plastered on the Pink, and he doesn't think we're very good.

He doesn't think Napoli are up to much either.

[Fontaine]

 Last thing you want to hear after a loss is someone with too many gargles on board, being a bit belligerent

[LallanaInPyjamas]

Last thing you want to hear after a loss is someone with too many gargles on board, being a bit belligerent

Don't listen to The Pink then.

[Fontaine]

Wrong answer.  Stick on the reasonably sober lads, there was no need for Guttmans input there, he just made a Mockery of the thing.

Don't listen to The Pink then.

[TepidT2O]

The pink is best when it’s like a chat in the pub after the match, or chatting shit on transport on the way back.

When it sounds like it’s a studio show it doesn’t work as well.  There’s enough of those, the pink adds something different.. and I love that about it.

[Rush 82]

Gutmann is absolutely plastered on the Pink, and he doesn't think we're very good.

Completely plastered

Was having none of the reasons

'they're not that good'

[Rush 82]

Last thing you want to hear after a loss is someone with too many gargles on board, being a bit belligerent

Nah, it was fucking hilarious. A tonic really.

Guttman

[Rush 82]

The pink is best when it’s like a chat in the pub after the match, or chatting shit on transport on the way back.

When it sounds like it’s a studio show it doesn’t work as well.  There’s enough of those, the pink adds something different.. and I love that about it.

This.

Guttman was having none of it - I loved the fact that his was an entirely emotional reaction.

[BobbyDavro]

Last thing you want to hear after a loss is someone with too many gargles on board, being a bit belligerent

Disagree totally.
I thought he was ace and echoed what a lot of us were thinking.
I listen for lots of reasons, but after a loss it’s often therapy.
He was ace last night and made me feel like someone was saying what I was feeling...and gave me a laugh.

[Dench57]

Gutmann

[Millie]

He was so pissed 

He put a smile back on my face after the result anyway 

[Big Bamber]

Disagree totally.
I thought he was ace and echoed what a lot of us were thinking.
I listen for lots of reasons, but after a loss it’s often therapy.
He was ace last night and made me feel like someone was saying what I was feeling...and gave me a laugh.

Hear hear!

[Iska]

Was looking forward to hearing this, and Gooters didn’t let me down.  Could practically smell the beer fumes pouring out my car stereo this morning.  Outstanding.

[kennedy81]

Disagree totally.
I thought he was ace and echoed what a lot of us were thinking.
I listen for lots of reasons, but after a loss it’s often therapy.
He was ace last night and made me feel like someone was saying what I was feeling...and gave me a laugh.

+1

[JackBauer]

Why is it necessary for at least one of them to get completely trashed every game? I understand having a couple of pints is part of the matchday experience for a lot of people but it seems on most episodes of the Pink that at least one of them is barely able to speak.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

Why is it necessary for at least one of them to get completely trashed every game? I understand having a couple of pints is part of the matchday experience for a lot of people but it seems on most episodes of the Pink that at least one of them is barely able to speak.

Why is it necessary for you to judge someone's lifestyle choices?

[JackBauer]

Why is it necessary for you to judge someone's lifestyle choices?

Oh, here we go, the super-defensive response to anything that isn't fawning praise. I asked a simple question and you immediately jump on me like I'm some puritan arsehole tut-tutting about someone having a drink.

If someone wants to use going to the match as an excuse to get blasted, go ahead, that's up to them. I am just curious as to why this is. It's a topic for another thread really but now I've been out of the country for a while I'm more of an outsider when it comes to British drinking culture and I find it interesting how a lot of events or occasions simply become an excuse to get drunk.

[thekitkatshuffler]

Why is it necessary for at least one of them to get completely trashed every game? I understand having a couple of pints is part of the matchday experience for a lot of people but it seems on most episodes of the Pink that at least one of them is barely able to speak.

"Necessary" - as if it's in the TAW job description.   

He went to watch the match in the boozer and had some high quality imbibements before providing some rock solid entertainment.  No need for an enquiry, deary.

[Hightown Phil]

Oh, here we go, the super-defensive response to anything that isn't fawning praise. I asked a simple question and you immediately jump on me like I'm some puritan arsehole tut-tutting about someone having a drink.

If someone wants to use going to the match as an excuse to get blasted, go ahead, that's up to them. I am just curious as to why this is. It's a topic for another thread really but now I've been out of the country for a while I'm more of an outsider when it comes to British drinking culture and I find it interesting how a lot of events or occasions simply become an excuse to get drunk.

It's just what happens when people spend a few hours in a pub.

[Dench57]

but it seems on most episodes of the Pink that at least one of them is barely able to speak.

    

[FlashGordon]

Oh, here we go, the super-defensive response to anything that isn't fawning praise. I asked a simple question and you immediately jump on me like I'm some puritan arsehole tut-tutting about someone having a drink.

If someone wants to use going to the match as an excuse to get blasted, go ahead, that's up to them. I am just curious as to why this is. It's a topic for another thread really but now I've been out of the country for a while I'm more of an outsider when it comes to British drinking culture and I find it interesting how a lot of events or occasions simply become an excuse to get drunk.

Some people enjoy getting drunk. Lots of people actually enjoy it, once or twice a week no problem. He's not even that pissed on it 

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

Oh, here we go, the super-defensive response to anything that isn't fawning praise. I asked a simple question and you immediately jump on me like I'm some puritan arsehole tut-tutting about someone having a drink.

If someone wants to use going to the match as an excuse to get blasted, go ahead, that's up to them. I am just curious as to why this is. It's a topic for another thread really but now I've been out of the country for a while I'm more of an outsider when it comes to British drinking culture and I find it interesting how a lot of events or occasions simply become an excuse to get drunk.

Many people, me included, have a different pace of drinking when watching a game. Factor in sometimes doubling up to avoid queuing at peak times and a particularly stressful game and it's easily done.

It's not obligatory to get twatted, and many people don't, it's certainly not an "excuse to get drunk", but many people watch games with groups of mates. It's part of their social time and as I touched on above, sometimes getting drunk is the outcome, but not necessarily the intention.

[JackBauer]

Some people enjoy getting drunk. Lots of people actually enjoy it, once or twice a week no problem. He's not even that pissed on it 

Yes, that's my point, really - that this is so prevalent things like going to a football match become less about the football and more about boozing before, during or after it. I guess I'm making more of an observation about British society than I am about Rob Gutmann.
 

[Grobbelrevell]

No need to justify or apologise to anyone with regards the choices that you make. If you want to have a few drinks at the game, with whatever intentions, that's up to you. If you don't, likewise.

I used to drive to games solo for a number of years, and so I wouldn't drink in and around the game at all. In recent years I've been going with mates and having a few drinks pre and occasionally post match, and sometimes that results in me being in the kind of state that would make Rob look sober but y'know what, I've mostly enjoyed myself in doing so. These are very contrasting match-going experiences, both with their positives and negatives. There is no right or wrong way to do it.

[JackBauer]

No need to justify or apologise to anyone with regards the choices that you make. If you want to have a few drinks at the game, with whatever intentions, that's up to you. If you don't, likewise.[\quote]

I used to drive to games solo for a number of years, and so I wouldn't drink in and around the game at all. In recent years I've been going with mates and having a few drinks pre and occasionally post match, and sometimes that results in me being in the kind of state that would make Rob look sober but y'know what, I've mostly enjoyed myself in doing so. These are very contrasting match-going experiences, both with their positives and negatives. There is no right or wrong way to do it.

All fair enough.

When I was in my 20s I was firmly in the "get lashed every weekend" camp because that's what my mates and I liked doing and that was generally what British people in their 20s did. And I had a lot of fun doing it. Coincidentally or not, I went to the match more often in those days too. As I got older I learned the hard way that being hung over was, firstly, an infinitely worse experience in a warmer climate and, secondly, wholly incompatible with having young children. As a result of these factors I drink much less now than I did in those days, and that plus having been out of the UK for so long have led to an appreciation that other cultures have different relationships with alcohol than the British do.

But as you say, everyone's choices are their own to make.

[Fitzy.]

The best thing about the Pink was the fact that at no point was Rob's inebriation mentioned or used against him. They included him and Neil was excellent at challenging him in a totally measured way.

[Rush 82]

The best thing about the Pink was the fact that at no point was Rob's inebriation mentioned or used against him. They included him and Neil was excellent at challenging him in a totally measured way.

Well, dunno if talking over him can be classified as 'measured' but it made for good listening

[Fitzy.]

Defo the best ‘defeat’ Pink I’ve heard.

[Raaphael]

Sober or drunk- I can listen to Gutmann all day.

[Slick_Beef]

Don't agree at all with Gutmann's opinion at all but not really the point, it was a good listen as ever!

[thekitkatshuffler]

Don't agree at all with Gutmann's opinion at all but not really the point, it was a good listen as ever!

I don't imagine Gutmann will agree with all of Gutmann's opinions either, when he sobers up. 

There'll be a kernel of truth to maintain there though.

[bradders1011]

I like Steve Armstrong as he's normally very measured. His contribution to this week's Friday Show was a very enjoyable listen.

 

[Iska]

I like Steve Armstrong as he's normally very measured. His contribution to this week's Friday Show was a very enjoyable listen.

 

Yes, nice to hear him so nearly there, to admitting that Mourinho’s had their pants down the last two-and-a-half years.  Get him back on in a month or so and he should be just the right amount of meek for my liking.

[sinnermichael]

The start of today's Talking Reds 

[red_Mark1980]

I don't imagine Gutmann will agree with all of Gutmann's opinions either, when he sobers up. 

There'll be a kernel of truth to maintain there though.

We'll have to see when he does sober up.

Look forward to that in June 2020 😂