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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1720 on: October 1, 2012, 12:59:37 pm »
one thing I would say is its fucking amazing just how obsessed everyone is with this film , it doesn't matter whether you despised it or loved it its being talked about to a massive degree.

In many ways this films a lot like Jedward then....and they made fuck all sense either, they certainly were formed in primordial goo.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1721 on: October 1, 2012, 01:05:28 pm »
Deleted Scene titles from the upcoming DVD/Blueray release:
00:02:31:16 (ARRIVAL OF THE ENGINEERS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:58:05 (T’IS THE SEASON) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:42:08 (OUR FIRST ALIEN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:42:14 (SKIN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:01:22:01 (WE’RE NOT ALONE ANYMORE) (DELETED SCENE)
00:02:57:01 (STRANGE BEDFELLOWS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:01:25:04 (HOLLOWAY HUNGOVER) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:23:12 (DAVID’S OBJECTIVE) (DELETED SCENE)
00:03:27:07 (JANEK FILLS VICKERS IN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:03:40:12 (A KING HAS HIS REIGN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:02:01:24 (FITFIELD ATTACKS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:04:06:06 (THE ENGINEER SPEAKS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:05:30:04 (FINAL BATTLE) (DELETED SCENE)
00:05:05:19 (PARADISE) (DELETED SCENE)

Are they actually going to be in the film or have you got to watch them seperately from the special features menu?

I've just got the blu-ray version from the usual places but there are no new scenes in it.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1722 on: October 1, 2012, 02:08:28 pm »
Are they actually going to be in the film or have you got to watch them seperately from the special features menu?

I've just got the blu-ray version from the usual places but there are no new scenes in it.

seperate to the movie i think, so as a feature off the menu

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1723 on: October 1, 2012, 03:10:36 pm »
one thing I would say is its fucking amazing just how obsessed everyone is with this film , it doesn't matter whether you despised it or loved it its being talked about to a massive degree.

In many ways this films a lot like Jedward then....and they made fuck all sense either, they certainly were formed in primordial goo.

I'm not obsessed with the film just obsessed with winding Andy up about his shite taste in movies.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1724 on: October 1, 2012, 04:31:37 pm »
I'm not obsessed with the film just obsessed with winding Andy up about his shite taste in movies.

I'm obsessed with the fact that Andy has painted himself into a corner with his irrational love of this movie. Now he has to spin to the ends of time, and every corner of the web, and with every tuppenny sub-David Icke theory to justify the plot of Prometheus.

End of the day, I thought it was okay, quite mediocre with some fantastic visuals. For me, the marketing was out of this world good, some of the best in many years. And that is a factor in the disappointment.

And then when you get to the final product, the logic of the film was atrocious, like a straight-to-video slasher with Val Kilmer running around with people like Ruben Blades. 

Had the film been directed by Len Wiseman who made Total Recall and Underworld, there would have been a flood of 3 star reviews and everyone would have moved on, yawning.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1725 on: October 1, 2012, 05:03:21 pm »
I'm obsessed with the fact that Andy has painted himself into a corner with his irrational love of this movie. Now he has to spin to the ends of time, and every corner of the web, and with every tuppenny sub-David Icke theory to justify the plot of Prometheus.

End of the day, I thought it was okay, quite mediocre with some fantastic visuals. For me, the marketing was out of this world good, some of the best in many years. And that is a factor in the disappointment.

And then when you get to the final product, the logic of the film was atrocious, like a straight-to-video slasher with Val Kilmer running around with people like Ruben Blades. 

Had the film been directed by Len Wiseman who made Total Recall and Underworld, there would have been a flood of 3 star reviews and everyone would have moved on, yawning.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1726 on: October 1, 2012, 05:08:52 pm »
I love Ruben Blades as well.

He is boss in Color of Night. He out acts Bruce Willis' penis in fact.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1727 on: October 1, 2012, 05:13:23 pm »
I love Ruben Blades as well.

He is boss in Color of Night. He out acts Bruce Willis' penis in fact.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1728 on: October 1, 2012, 05:20:34 pm »
Do you have a picture of Max Zorin in your avatar?

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1729 on: October 1, 2012, 05:21:42 pm »
Haha, Reuben Blades! Superb.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1730 on: October 1, 2012, 05:25:53 pm »
yeah man

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1731 on: October 1, 2012, 05:30:11 pm »
There's a fine line between Max Storin and Max Shreck.

I try not the cross that line, it leads to Tim Burton-ness.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1732 on: October 1, 2012, 05:56:06 pm »
seperate to the movie i think, so as a feature off the menu
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1733 on: October 1, 2012, 06:04:29 pm »
I'm not obsessed with the film just obsessed with winding Andy up about his shite taste in movies.

Movies?!! Schoolboy error, son.

We're not in the fucking US of A now!

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1734 on: October 1, 2012, 06:40:42 pm »
seperate to the movie i think, so as a feature off the menu

All new alternate ending and beginning that you can't even watch with the rest of the film!

Completely false advertising IMO.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1735 on: October 1, 2012, 06:44:25 pm »
All new alternate ending and beginning that you can't even watch with the rest of the film!

Completely false advertising IMO.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1736 on: October 1, 2012, 07:51:58 pm »
All new alternate ending and beginning that you can't even watch with the rest of the film!

Completely false advertising IMO.

It's all just so unfair :(
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1737 on: October 1, 2012, 09:47:51 pm »
I am pretty annoyed that the new footage isn't included in a different cut of the film, as a fan I would have enjoyed it.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1738 on: October 1, 2012, 10:09:51 pm »
I am pretty annoyed that the new footage isn't included in a different cut of the film, as a fan I would have enjoyed it.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1739 on: October 1, 2012, 10:12:07 pm »
You misunderstand your role in all this. You're not an audience to be satisfied. You're a cash cow. There will e a complete version in the 10-disc metal box special edition. In the meantime get your card out and buy what you're told. Ridley needs the cash.



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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1740 on: October 1, 2012, 10:13:27 pm »
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1741 on: October 1, 2012, 10:45:14 pm »
Life size?

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1743 on: October 2, 2012, 03:05:47 am »
I enjoyed it.  And Andy's right. :)

There, that ought to keep this thread going for another 15 or 16 pages.  :lickin

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1745 on: October 2, 2012, 11:15:47 am »

Errr... Gave up after five minutes.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1746 on: October 2, 2012, 12:17:07 pm »
Too complicated for you? :D

Too boring... 28 fucking minutes!... They also seem to have a strange conception of what an 'answer' is.

Q1 - Is Linelof a bad writer? - the 'answer' is that he wasn't the original writer and also wrote Lost. That's not an answer.

Q2 - What is a plot hole? - their answer refers to Wiki which defines a plot hole as amongst other things:

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A plot hole, or plothole, is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot, or constitutes a blatant omission of relevant information regarding the plot. These include such things as unlikely behaviour or actions of characters, illogical or impossible events, events happening for no apparent reason, or statements/events that contradict earlier events in the storyline.

That seems to cover most of Prometheus...

Next few questions are particularly uninteresting... but typical is "How did the archaeologists find the cave paintings in Scotland so easily? - answer starts "for all we know..." then ..."maybe they..." and concludes with "you don't know..." again, that's not an answer.

Next question refers to a viral marketing campaign... I didn't watch it so the answer is irrelevant.

yawn... fast forward...

Q - What was the purpose of the scene where Vickers is revealed to be Weylands daughter? - some rambling bollocks of an answer that makes no sense. She wants him to die but he gets angry when she nuzzles his hand?... Err... you what?... It's cardboard cutout characterisation.

Q - Why isn't Vickers last name "Weyland" - some more utter shite. If it's Weylands who disowns Vickers how did he make her change her name?... The correct answer is this is a poorly telegraphed set up for the lame 'father' line that has no meaning at all.

Q - the male medpod shit? - answer?... not an answer - it's a movie plotpoint and makes no sense.

Yawn... fast fast forward.... and we get to the fucking doozy! I'll put it in bold:

If we share the same DNA with the Engineers, why don't other lifeforms on Earth do the same? Why were there dinosaurs if the Aliens made us?

OK... now wait for the answer... seriously... this is a fucking belter...

As far as we know, people are still looking for the "missing link" between chimps and humans. This is the question the movie is asking you. Is there even a link, or were we created separately?

And there you have it. As I keep pointing out it's anti-science, intelligent-design bullshit.

Missing link? Jesus wept! Are they living in the nineteenth century?...

And at that point I stopped watching...
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1748 on: October 2, 2012, 01:11:44 pm »
I can answer the most sacred and profound question in Prometheus:

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1749 on: October 2, 2012, 01:24:42 pm »
Too boring... 28 fucking minutes!... They also seem to have a strange conception of what an 'answer' is.

Q1 - Is Linelof a bad writer? - the 'answer' is that he wasn't the original writer and also wrote Lost. That's not an answer.

Q2 - What is a plot hole? - their answer refers to Wiki which defines a plot hole as amongst other things:

That seems to cover most of Prometheus...

Next few questions are particularly uninteresting... but typical is "How did the archaeologists find the cave paintings in Scotland so easily? - answer starts "for all we know..." then ..."maybe they..." and concludes with "you don't know..." again, that's not an answer.

Next question refers to a viral marketing campaign... I didn't watch it so the answer is irrelevant.

yawn... fast forward...

Q - What was the purpose of the scene where Vickers is revealed to be Weylands daughter? - some rambling bollocks of an answer that makes no sense. She wants him to die but he gets angry when she nuzzles his hand?... Err... you what?... It's cardboard cutout characterisation.

Q - Why isn't Vickers last name "Weyland" - some more utter shite. If it's Weylands who disowns Vickers how did he make her change her name?... The correct answer is this is a poorly telegraphed set up for the lame 'father' line that has no meaning at all.

Q - the male medpod shit? - answer?... not an answer - it's a movie plotpoint and makes no sense.

Yawn... fast fast forward.... and we get to the fucking doozy! I'll put it in bold:

If we share the same DNA with the Engineers, why don't other lifeforms on Earth do the same? Why were there dinosaurs if the Aliens made us?

OK... now wait for the answer... seriously... this is a fucking belter...

As far as we know, people are still looking for the "missing link" between chimps and humans. This is the question the movie is asking you. Is there even a link, or were we created separately?

And there you have it. As I keep pointing out it's anti-science, intelligent-design bullshit.

Missing link? Jesus wept! Are they living in the nineteenth century?...

And at that point I stopped watching...

You loved it really I can tell.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1750 on: October 2, 2012, 01:25:43 pm »
Yawn... fast fast forward.... and we get to the fucking doozy! I'll put it in bold:

If we share the same DNA with the Engineers, why don't other lifeforms on Earth do the same? Why were there dinosaurs if the Aliens made us?

OK... now wait for the answer... seriously... this is a fucking belter...

As far as we know, people are still looking for the "missing link" between chimps and humans. This is the question the movie is asking you. Is there even a link, or were we created separately?

Wow.......just......wow.

That video does go to great lengths to explain a lot of the nuances of the film, but come on, you shouldnt have to go and search viral videos and look around on a set up Weyland corp website to find answers or to understand points about a film.

These things should give you extra bits of information that are irrelevant to the film, like what were the weapons called in the Star Wars films, its not relevant to the films plot but its cool to know, you shouldnt have to read all these things just to make sense of a film. I love learning about all the little details about bits and pieces in the background of films that the makers have compiled, but it shouldnt be necessary to have read all of this to understand the plot.

I have this bug with comic book films, you shoulndt have to have read all the comic book backstory to understand the film, it should give you all the information for the film there, and if you want to know more or see the little bits that were borrowed from the comics then you can do.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1751 on: October 2, 2012, 01:42:26 pm »
You loved it really I can tell.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1752 on: October 2, 2012, 02:47:13 pm »
Andy you can admit you were wrong. Go on try it, no one will think less of you for it. Its liberating, go on, I did it, look...... Its shit!! Woooohooo! I feel so free.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1753 on: October 2, 2012, 06:31:58 pm »
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Don't know why this has only come to me now and i'm not sure whether somebody has mentioned it before but do you think the reason they created life on earth so that they could test their weapons on us? Maybe one of the reasons the engineer was heading to earth? We were their guinea pigs to test on.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1754 on: October 2, 2012, 06:41:41 pm »
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Don't know why this has only come to me now and i'm not sure whether somebody has mentioned it before but do you think the reason they created life on earth so that they could test their weapons on us? Maybe one of the reasons the engineer was heading to earth? We were their guinea pigs to test on.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1755 on: October 2, 2012, 06:44:24 pm »
Lindelhof is an idiot, in case you didn't know.

But I enjoyed this movie, and can't wait to watch it again.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1757 on: October 2, 2012, 07:27:50 pm »
It will take more than some funky extras/deleted scenes to recover that piece of shite.

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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1758 on: October 2, 2012, 08:06:51 pm »
At 27 minutes and 3 seconds in the video:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/GpEx7pdp2-Q?start=1623" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/GpEx7pdp2-Q?start=1623</a>

Interesting reads:

http://whatculture.com/film/prometheus-5-things-we-want-to-see-in-a-sequel.php
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Ridley Scott’s long anticipated Alien prequel Prometheus recently exploded onto our cinema screens and has already won plaudits for its mind-altering meld of breathtaking visuals, wonderfully rendered alien landscapes and awesomely conceived action sequences...


^^ See what I meant earlier about "The Emperor's New Clothes"?


A point on these universally-acclaimed genius visuals: yes, the 'alien' landscapes do look stunningly beautiful. That's mainly because Iceland...





...has stunningly beautiful landscapes, naturally. Absolutely top marks on the choice of ext. filming locations, yes yes yes, but I can't in all honestly say I was gobsmacked by most of the alien decor once we got indoors. A lot of it I found pretty nondescript actually; the Engineer head sculpture is the big impressive set piece, and I'd already seen that pasted everywhere months before the film was released. I'm not arguing that it doesn't look sumptuous, I just didn't find much there to inspire genuine awe, in fact I didn't see anything strikingly original at all really.
Each of the Alien films tried something different visually - the original goes without saying, that film birthed Giger's biomechanical Xenomorph universe, as well as the grubby, lived-in blue-collar human workplace, and just bowled everyone over with its novel vision, its unfettered artistic creativity; Aliens brought a cleaner, more sterile military feel, with futuristic barracks and colony research facilities; Alien3 gave us a grotty, industrial, labyrinthine prison setting (everything's filmed in a reddish-brown tint, rusting); Jeunet did his own OTT grotesque cartoon shite. Prometheus was not particularly ambitious in its aesthetic approach, if you ask me - but then, it's not an Alien film, is it ::)

"awesomely conceived action sequences"  :-X


Everyone needs to eventually admit to themselves that this film, just as a film, is pretty throwaway toss. You can still love it - knock yourself out - but it's toss. Like 2011's The Thing premakequel, it doesn't actually need to exist - it brings little of any worth to the table (and before anyone starts, I don't think this is quite as pointless and crap as that was). It just needs to be asked once again; why not work hard on a good script, satisfactorily filled-out characters, a fascinating new take on this already well-established universe, before committing such a project to film and milking the moolah? Why wait so long without at least striving for perfection and just failing, when the time comes to actually put it all together? I guess we'll never know.
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Re: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel
« Reply #1759 on: October 2, 2012, 08:57:31 pm »
I have the Alien Quadrilogy and love all of those films, my favourite being Aliens. My question is, as a big fan of these films, and sci-fi in general, do I buy this film? I've seen very mixed views on here, so not sure what to do.