Author Topic: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel (Read 102880 times)

ShatnersBassoon · « **Reply #1840 on:** October 10, 2012, 02:28:26 pm »

for anyone interested in the techy side, here is some VFX breakdowns of some of the work we did on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdJYlKfyjg8

Alan_X · « **Reply #1841 on:** October 11, 2012, 07:54:26 pm »

Quote from: ShatnersBassoon on October 10, 2012, 02:28:26 pm

for anyone interested in the techy side, here is some VFX breakdowns of some of the work we did on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdJYlKfyjg8

Brilliant stuff. Not a fan of the movie but that's really impressive. Nice to see it built up like that - you really appreciate all the levels of detail that go into each shot.

Not Bob · « **Reply #1842 on:** October 11, 2012, 08:06:42 pm »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on October 9, 2012, 07:21:19 pm

They didn't seem to be on the DVD version - maybe Blue Ray only

The scenes they showed were minimally different. I haven't got a Blue Ray player.

Some nice stuff on there, but I don't know if it's worth the extra effort. A couple of nice scenes with Janek but that's all.

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #1843 on:** October 11, 2012, 08:08:13 pm »

Quote from: Nicky English on October 11, 2012, 08:06:42 pm

Some nice stuff on there, but I don't know if it's worth the extra effort. A couple of nice scenes with Janek but that's all.

Interview with the alien? Wasn't on the DVD...

Janek's was..

Not Bob · « **Reply #1844 on:** October 11, 2012, 08:10:10 pm »

I didn't find it. All I saw was the deleted scenes, director, editor and sfx man commentary and the pre-release promo stuff.

May have missed something though?

Apparently collector's edition has more stuff, but I only got the blue ray.

Casablancas · « **Reply #1845 on:** October 11, 2012, 08:59:20 pm »

Had no idea you didn't get all the proper extras on the BluRay FFS

fudge · « **Reply #1846 on:** October 11, 2012, 08:59:49 pm »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on October 9, 2012, 11:33:51 am

You're not saying you like Casper now as well?

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #1847 on:** October 11, 2012, 09:35:08 pm »

Quote from: ShatnersBassoon on October 10, 2012, 02:28:26 pm

for anyone interested in the techy side, here is some VFX breakdowns of some of the work we did on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdJYlKfyjg8

Nice. I personally like those kind of breakdowns to be a bit more technical in their description. There's some lovely matte work and great compositing that went into that. Did you work on any of those scenes?

Casablancas · « **Reply #1848 on:** October 11, 2012, 10:32:49 pm »

Long shot but does anybody want this on BluRay for £13 or something and I'll post it out to them?

ShatnersBassoon · « **Reply #1849 on:** October 11, 2012, 11:49:24 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on October 11, 2012, 09:35:08 pm

Nice. I personally like those kind of breakdowns to be a bit more technical in their description. There's some lovely matte work and great compositing that went into that. Did you work on any of those scenes?

yeah they are massively simplified. usually when it comes to making those breakdowns people are sick to death of the shots

and they are just to say "we did this" rather than "this is how we did it"

none of my specific shots are on there but i worked on those sequences. prometheus landing/ juggernaut crash

mulfella · « **Reply #1850 on:** October 12, 2012, 09:47:44 am »

Quote from: Casablancas on October 11, 2012, 10:32:49 pm

Long shot but does anybody want this on BluRay for £13 or something and I'll post it out to them?

Only £13? You'd have to give me at least £30 to take it off your hands.

zero zero · « **Reply #1851 on:** October 12, 2012, 10:13:45 am »

Quote from: ShatnersBassoon on October 11, 2012, 11:49:24 pm

yeah they are massively simplified. usually when it comes to making those breakdowns people are sick to death of the shots and they are just to say "we did this" rather than "this is how we did it"

Cheers for sharing it mate. Very interesting

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #1852 on:** October 12, 2012, 12:42:23 pm »

Watching it again with the missus tomorrow night.

#PROMETHEUSNIGHTWHOOP!

Haemoglobin · « **Reply #1853 on:** October 12, 2012, 12:45:57 pm »

Pro-Me: The US

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #1854 on:** October 12, 2012, 01:01:25 pm »

Prom Ethe us

owens_2k · « **Reply #1855 on:** October 12, 2012, 01:06:35 pm »

Quote from: ShatnersBassoon on October 11, 2012, 11:49:24 pm

yeah they are massively simplified. usually when it comes to making those breakdowns people are sick to death of the shots and they are just to say "we did this" rather than "this is how we did it"

none of my specific shots are on there but i worked on those sequences. prometheus landing/ juggernaut crash

Can I have your job please?

Haemoglobin · « **Reply #1856 on:** October 12, 2012, 01:30:11 pm »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on October 12, 2012, 01:01:25 pm

bit of a stretch perhaps

still claiming it tho

Casablancas · « **Reply #1857 on:** October 15, 2012, 11:26:41 pm »

Did you get the 3 disc BluRay Andy? The docu is excellent, very in depth at 3 hours 40 mins. In line with the superb documentaries found with the 4 Alien film boxsets.

xavidub · « **Reply #1858 on:** October 15, 2012, 11:51:18 pm »

Just watched this again today. I like the opening scene at Detifoss as I was there last year and it's incredible. Everything else about the film is still utter shite. I never thought that I would look back at Alien3 and feel it was the good old days of the franchise.

StokieSteve · « **Reply #1859 on:** October 16, 2012, 12:06:13 am »

It was good, not great. I enjoyed it, but nothing beats Aliens for me.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #1860 on:** October 16, 2012, 12:07:45 am »

Quote from: ShatnersBassoon on October 11, 2012, 11:49:24 pm

yeah they are massively simplified. usually when it comes to making those breakdowns people are sick to death of the shots and they are just to say "we did this" rather than "this is how we did it"

none of my specific shots are on there but i worked on those sequences. prometheus landing/ juggernaut crash

Was that the scene where the Prometheus ship crashed into the alien ship taking off? That looked to me like it was the most technically challenging shot. Would I be right? What was the software used for the 3d rendering?

StokieSteve · « **Reply #1861 on:** October 16, 2012, 12:20:18 am »

Also in this film, there was no mention of LV426.

ShatnersBassoon · « **Reply #1862 on:** October 16, 2012, 10:35:01 am »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on October 16, 2012, 12:07:45 am

Was that the scene where the Prometheus ship crashed into the alien ship taking off? That looked to me like it was the most technically challenging shot. Would I be right? What was the software used for the 3d rendering?

that was one of the biggest shots yeah. sometimes whats challenging and what isnt doesnt show in the final output. something really simple looking could have actually been a huge pain in the arse for any number of reasons.

they used maya and renderman i think. thats not my side of it though. this article goes into a lot more detail:

http://www.digitalmedia-world.com/Features/prometheus-engineer-s-planet

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #1863 on:** October 16, 2012, 11:37:09 am »

Quote from: Casablancas on October 15, 2012, 11:26:41 pm

Did you get the 3 disc BluRay Andy? The docu is excellent, very in depth at 3 hours 40 mins. In line with the superb documentaries found with the 4 Alien film boxsets.

I haven't got a BluRay player..

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #1864 on:** October 16, 2012, 11:37:36 am »

Quote from: StokieSteve on October 16, 2012, 12:20:18 am

Also in this film, there was no mention of LV426.

That's because it's decades before Alien

ShatnersBassoon · « **Reply #1865 on:** October 16, 2012, 11:50:14 am »

when working on it it was always referred to as LV426 by ridley, etc.

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #1866 on:** October 16, 2012, 12:22:42 pm »

Quote from: ShatnersBassoon on October 16, 2012, 11:50:14 am

when working on it it was always referred to as LV426 by ridley, etc.

Doesn't matter. In the film they aired it was clearly called LV-223.

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #1867 on:** October 16, 2012, 08:45:38 pm »

Just watched it then. Not very good.

No point in it, at all. Like that's the feeling i was left with at the end.

Thush · « **Reply #1868 on:** October 16, 2012, 08:47:44 pm »

LV-426 (Acheron) in Aliens is a completely different planetoid to LV-233 in Prometheus.

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #1869 on:** October 16, 2012, 08:49:01 pm »

Quote from: Thush on October 16, 2012, 08:47:44 pm

LV-426 (Acheron) in Aliens is a completely different planetoid to LV-233 in Prometheus.

Or even LV-223

Thush · « **Reply #1870 on:** October 16, 2012, 08:54:56 pm »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on October 16, 2012, 08:49:01 pm

Or even LV-223

That's in the special features in the bluray!

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #1871 on:** October 16, 2012, 08:58:26 pm »

Quote from: Thush on October 16, 2012, 08:54:56 pm

That's in the special features in the bluray!

StokieSteve · « **Reply #1872 on:** October 17, 2012, 08:31:42 pm »

Quote from: Thush on October 16, 2012, 08:47:44 pm

LV-426 (Acheron) in Aliens is a completely different planetoid to LV-233 in Prometheus.

I'm a bit confused. Was the ship that crashed at the end of Prometheus the one that was found by the Nostromo in Alien? And if so, how can it be a different planetoid? That's why I mentioned LV-426 before.

Not Bob · « **Reply #1873 on:** October 17, 2012, 08:43:35 pm »

Quote from: StokieSteve on October 17, 2012, 08:31:42 pm

I'm a bit confused. Was the ship that crashed at the end of Prometheus the one that was found by the Nostromo in Alien? And if so, how can it be a different planetoid? That's why I mentioned LV-426 before.

Different, yes. The ship you find in Alien had a dude driving it* and a bunch of eggs. And it was a different planet/planetoid/whatevs.

Spoiler

(the dude in Prometheus was a snack for the squid and a mommy for that other thing)

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Rusty Oysterburger · « **Reply #1874 on:** October 17, 2012, 08:47:57 pm »

Very easy to see why it's confusing seeing as its more or less identical in every sense. The umpteenth example of muddled, contrived plotting.

Not Bob · « **Reply #1875 on:** October 17, 2012, 08:50:21 pm »

Quote from: Rusty Oysterburger on October 17, 2012, 08:47:57 pm

Very easy to see why it's confusing seeing as its more or less identical in every sense. The umpteenth example of muddled, contrived plotting.

Or they could be drawing parallels between the two films, giving fans some sort of connection?

I don't mind that the planetoids are similarly named, either. It's how planets are designated in this universe.

StokieSteve · « **Reply #1876 on:** October 17, 2012, 08:59:17 pm »

Quote from: Nicky English on October 17, 2012, 08:43:35 pm

Different, yes. The ship you find in Alien had a dude driving it* and a bunch of eggs. And it was a different planet/planetoid/whatevs.
Spoiler
(the dude in Prometheus was a snack for the squid and a mommy for that other thing)
[close]

I've watched the quadrilogy countless times, but Prometheus only once. I think I need to watch it through again, Prometheus that is.

sonnyred · « **Reply #1877 on:** October 18, 2012, 12:10:37 am »

loved the visuals, the sets, the future tech, the premise and that ship, I want one if I get reincarnated in a few hundred years time. But those characters, wtf was Ridley thinking? You'd find more thoughtful and intelligent characters down the local supermarket. The only half decent character was David, and he was a robot. Says it all really.

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #1878 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:02:56 pm »

Quote from: Rusty Oysterburger on October 17, 2012, 08:47:57 pm

Very easy to see why it's confusing seeing as its more or less identical in every sense. The umpteenth example of muddled, contrived plotting.

Hmm. There were 'lots' of ships in that base. It was clear it was a base and not a homeworld. Which would suggest there were countless other ships on countless other bases and planets.

If you found a Ford Mondeo crashed by the side of the road on the way home tonight, would you assume that it was the only Ford Mondeo in the Universe or would you see that it was clearly manufactured and surmise there were probably plenty of them made?

Alan_X · « **Reply #1879 on:** October 18, 2012, 02:52:29 pm »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on October 18, 2012, 01:02:56 pm

Hmm. There were 'lots' of ships in that base. It was clear it was a base and not a homeworld. Which would suggest there were countless other ships on countless other bases and planets.

If you found a Ford Mondeo crashed by the side of the road on the way home tonight, would you assume that it was the only Ford Mondeo in the Universe or would you see that it was clearly manufactured and surmise there were probably plenty of them made?

If you found an alien with his head chopped off by a door then fuck it up with electricity, would you assume he was the only remaining specimen and go to pieces and get drunk?