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TepidT2O · « **Reply #16400 on:** July 17, 2017, 10:07:27 pm »

About to sign Pepe....

He's ours!!!!!

davidlpool1982 · « **Reply #16401 on:** July 18, 2017, 07:50:15 am »

Quote from: We're not signing... on July 17, 2017, 10:07:27 pm

About to sign Pepe....

He's ours!!!!!

Just came to post this. Hopefully it isn't true. I was quite happy for him to go to Newcastle because as much as the owner is a beut amongst beuts, the fans for the most part are sound people with the same passion for football for us. But while there are still some good City fans, the majority of that club are now as plastic as Pam Anderson's boobs.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #16402 on:** July 18, 2017, 08:01:43 am »

£2m it seems

surfer. Fuck you generator. · « **Reply #16403 on:** July 19, 2017, 10:17:29 am »

Well he's still at Napoli's training camp in Dimaro, doing gym work alone.

clinical · « **Reply #16404 on:** July 19, 2017, 04:44:16 pm »

Walker and Danilo for £80m......

Pep got a fever or something.

Xxavi · « **Reply #16405 on:** July 19, 2017, 06:17:12 pm »

Quote from: clinical on July 19, 2017, 04:44:16 pm

Walker and Danilo for £80m......

Pep got a fever or something.

That's a weird one. Two young RBs... is he planning to use one of these as a left back?

Red-Soldier · « **Reply #16406 on:** July 19, 2017, 06:31:26 pm »

Quote from: Xxavi on July 19, 2017, 06:17:12 pm

That's a weird one. Two young RBs... is he planning to use one of these as a left back?

Walker is 27

Xxavi · « **Reply #16407 on:** July 19, 2017, 06:45:15 pm »

Quote from: Red-Soldier on July 19, 2017, 06:31:26 pm

Walker is 27

And Danilo is 25 I think. Young wasn't the exact words I was looking for, basically, they haven't signed an old back up player. Both are around 26, not sure if any of the 2 would agree to be a bench warmer. Danilo is leaving Madrid to play, I assumed.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #16408 on:** July 20, 2017, 01:49:54 am »

So how come City feel the need to spend close on 80 million on 2 right backs, rather than bring through a player like Maffeo, who apparently is pretty highly rated?

Same with Iheanacho, off to Leicester as he now seems to be about 6th in the pecking order at City.

I dunno, maybe I'm just too old and cranky and not that arsed about the new direction the premier league has taken in recent years, but I see nothing to celebrate in how this club now works (and yeah, they arent the only one).

Nothing would please me more than to see Trent Alexander and Ben Woodburn be regular members of our squad this season and get their chances. It doesn't mean we cant win or that we are unambitions, but there is always room for advancing and developing these talented youngsters and making room for them.

I understand managers at big clubs are under pressure, but there is still a way for good coaches to do it if they are willing.

clinical · « **Reply #16409 on:** July 20, 2017, 08:34:30 am »

But remember lads Pep went there for the challenge the fucking thumb.

Most overrated manager going after Mourinho.

CallumLFC · « **Reply #16410 on:** July 20, 2017, 08:46:52 am »

Quote from: clinical on July 20, 2017, 08:34:30 am

Most overrated manager going after Mourinho.

I think he proved that last season.

He was going to cruise the piss easy PL apparently. No issues with adjusting to the British game.

Fair play to him though, half way through the season he was honest enough to admit he was finding the game here a different challenge.

Red-Soldier · « **Reply #16411 on:** July 20, 2017, 09:04:00 am »

Quote from: clinical on July 20, 2017, 08:34:30 am

But remember lads Pep went there for the challenge the fucking thumb.

Most overrated manager going after Mourinho.

Don't know what you mean, he's the best ~~spender~~ manager in the world.

ElCapo · « **Reply #16412 on:** July 20, 2017, 09:59:04 pm »

Quote from: SandyShore on July 16, 2017, 09:19:09 am

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-pep-guardiola-contract-13335986

Genius 300m this year almost 200 last, will easily spend a billion in his time there? Wonder if he will ever pick a real challenging job..nah probably Psg next.

Ok, I can maybe justify splurging on 1 RB, but on 2, that's just taking the piss. And to spend ~80 million Euros of 2 right backs? What the hell Pep, there's no young players in the academy you could have groomed to be the Kyle Walker understudy? City's academy is apparently world class. There wasn't any 18-yr old who could have gotten 5-10 matches this season, 15-20 next season and compete for a team place the following... you know the 'normal' way.

People give a lot of shit to Mourinho, but Pep is just as bad. Spending so much on Real Madrid's third choice right-back smacks of inferiority.

JD. · « **Reply #16413 on:** July 20, 2017, 10:02:05 pm »

Quote from: clinical on July 20, 2017, 08:34:30 am

But remember lads Pep went there for the challenge the fucking thumb.

Most overrated manager going after Mourinho.

Absolute nonsense. Both are brilliant managers even if Mourinho isn't as good s he once was. Absolute delusion and bitterness to suggest otherwise.

ElCapo · « **Reply #16414 on:** July 20, 2017, 10:05:51 pm »

Quote from: Achilles Heel on July 16, 2017, 06:31:43 pm

6 "Dad's Army" players out of contract all over 30, 5 of them released - Zaba, Clichy, Sagna, Navas, Caballero. Are you saying he should have offered extensions to them?

Nolito, also over 30, gone back to Spain.

In so far Ederson, B Silva and Walker. Mendy in the next couple of days.

He was the idiot that brought Nolito in the first place. 1 season, gone. Great job Pep.

surfer. Fuck you generator. · « **Reply #16415 on:** July 21, 2017, 01:36:38 am »

Mourinho is a manager.

What is Pep? Sincere question.

He's clearly an inventor, an innovator who has changed how teams build up.

You can't call him a manager. A guy who's never heard of football before can do the recruitment that they do after playing a few rounds of football manager.

You would think he's a coach surfer you dummy, part of the modern game, specialised work for a risk managed model of club ownership. Yet Pep is a specialist within a specialised position, he gears his teams up in such a way, that whatever happens, his teams stay high, have possession. I cannot judge his work off the ball because he has simply never taken over a side so inferior in player quality that they have to get results by off the ball work consistently. He hasn't even done what Rodgers has with Swansea, where you got a good look (with positive results, Brendan's most impressive work in his career so far imo) or what Sarri did with Empoli.

What do you call a specialist within a specialised position?

Football consultant.

Garnier · « **Reply #16416 on:** July 21, 2017, 03:37:43 am »

Anyone else watching the City-United friendly?

I would like to make an observation about Kyle Walker

The guy's a runner, he excells in wide areas and doing overlaps - why the hell is Pep Guardiola making him tuck in like he did with Lahm and Alaba? - Walker is not a playmaker, he's a runner and an athlete, why buy him if you're going to give him a very different role?

SerbianScouser · « **Reply #16417 on:** July 21, 2017, 03:45:16 am »

Ederson with a massive blunder to give Utd the lead via Lukaku. Gotta love City keepers.

Pistolero · « **Reply #16418 on:** July 21, 2017, 01:07:37 pm »

City youth team kid Phil Foden looks an interesting prospect....certainly impressed his manager...

City boss Guardiola was delighted with the performance of 17-year-old midfielder Phil Foden, who was making his first-team debut.

"I don't have words to describe what I saw," Guardiola said. "His performance was at another level. He loves the club. He is a City fan. He is a gift.

"Maybe this season he will stay with us because he is special. Creating chances, always in the best position."

Dim Glas · « **Reply #16419 on:** July 21, 2017, 01:30:09 pm »

and within a couple years he'll be behind another 10 £50 million signings and never seen again

surfer. Fuck you generator. · « **Reply #16420 on:** July 21, 2017, 03:28:03 pm »

Quote from: Die Nullfünfer on July 21, 2017, 01:30:09 pm

and within a couple years he'll be behind another 10 £50 million signings and never seen again

He could be the next Jadon Sancho...

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/arsenal-transfer-news-latest-tottenham-circle-city-jadon-sancho-break-down-a7851981.html

"But Sancho still has not signed, believing that the path to the first-team is blocked at City and that he could play first-team football sooner elsewhere"

CrasherKid79 · « **Reply #16421 on:** July 21, 2017, 03:39:47 pm »

These lot will soon be made up of 11 £50million pound players that range from good to average. A very odd transfer strategy.

Surely it's better to have 5 world beaters at £100 mil or can't they attract those?

Xxavi · « **Reply #16422 on:** July 21, 2017, 04:57:48 pm »

Quote from: ElCapo on July 20, 2017, 10:05:51 pm

He was the idiot that brought Nolito in the first place. 1 season, gone. Great job Pep.

I agree that Nolito was a bad flop, I do wonder if it is because he didn't settle in England well.

It wasn't only Pep who was fooled by Nolito. Barca were close to signing him on several occasions...

Xxavi · « **Reply #16423 on:** July 21, 2017, 05:00:36 pm »

Quote from: CrasherKid79 on July 21, 2017, 03:39:47 pm

These lot will soon be made up of 11 £50million pound players that range from good to average. A very odd transfer strategy.

Surely it's better to have 5 world beaters at £100 mil or can't they attract those?

Who are those 100m world beaters? I am serious, Barca need them. Who are those?

No value in the current transfer market. I'm not even that mad that Barca are inactive in the market. I cannot pinpoint a world class player available for us. ManCity must have even worse in terms of attracting wc players.

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #16424 on:** July 21, 2017, 05:00:53 pm »

Guardiola is so hated in england, its bizarre

Can't wait till he leaves to be honest. I've enjoyed watching his sides probably more than any manager out there, his tactical approach is brilliant to watch in action

CrasherKid79 · « **Reply #16425 on:** July 21, 2017, 05:09:08 pm »

Quote from: Xxavi on July 21, 2017, 05:00:36 pm

Who are those 100m world beaters? I am serious, Barca need them. Who are those?

No value in the current transfer market. I'm not even that mad that Barca are inactive in the market. I cannot pinpoint a world class player available for us. ManCity must have even worse in terms of attracting wc players.

Well you have 3 so ....

Mbappe, De Gea, Hazard, Lewandowski, Hummels and VVD would make Man City infinitely better than Stones, Sterling, Walker and that ilk

Xxavi · « **Reply #16426 on:** July 21, 2017, 05:37:11 pm »

Quote from: CrasherKid79 on July 21, 2017, 05:09:08 pm

Well you have 3 so ....

Mbappe, De Gea, Hazard, Lewandowski, Hummels and VVD would make Man City infinitely better than Stones, Sterling, Walker and that ilk

Hummels? Really? Bayern seem to be pissed about him.

The question is, how many of the 100m players can be realistically signed? Of those you cited, most won't even consider ManCity, and I don't know who VVD is.

SamAteTheRedAcid · « **Reply #16427 on:** July 21, 2017, 05:38:54 pm »

Quote from: Xxavi on July 21, 2017, 05:37:11 pm

Hummels? Really? Bayern seem to be pissed about him.

The question is, how many of the 100m players can be realistically signed? Of those you cited, most won't even consider ManCity, and I don't know who VVD is.

Virgil Van Dijk, come on, we've all being going on about him for the last month or so

Bob Sacamano · « **Reply #16428 on:** July 21, 2017, 05:39:58 pm »

Quote from: Pistolero on July 21, 2017, 01:07:37 pm

City youth team kid Phil Foden looks an interesting prospect....certainly impressed his manager...

City boss Guardiola was delighted with the performance of 17-year-old midfielder Phil Foden, who was making his first-team debut.

"I don't have words to describe what I saw," Guardiola said. "His performance was at another level. He loves the club. He is a City fan. He is a gift.

"Maybe this season he will stay with us because he is special. Creating chances, always in the best position."

He looked very very good. I assumed he was 20-21. If he's 17 then he might be special.

puroresu_kid · « **Reply #16429 on:** July 21, 2017, 05:40:06 pm »

Quote from: Xxavi on July 21, 2017, 04:57:48 pm

I agree that Nolito was a bad flop, I do wonder if it is because he didn't settle in England well.

It wasn't only Pep who was fooled by Nolito. Barca were close to signing him on several occasions...

No doubt him not settling had an effect. His comments on the weather were brilliant!!

Xxavi · « **Reply #16430 on:** July 21, 2017, 05:49:09 pm »

Quote from: SamAteTheRedAcid on July 21, 2017, 05:38:54 pm

Virgil Van Dijk, come on, we've all being going on about him for the last month or so

Of right, but the poster was talking about 100m world beaters, and somehow, in my mind, Van Dijk got eliminated from that group. Then, probably we should add Keita to that list, too

CrasherKid79 · « **Reply #16431 on:** July 21, 2017, 06:00:12 pm »

Quote from: Xxavi on July 21, 2017, 05:49:09 pm

Of right, but the poster was talking about 100m world beaters, and somehow, in my mind, Van Dijk got eliminated from that group. Then, probably we should add Keita to that list, too

No, I'm saying put those listed players in the City team at 100 mil a pop and they are infinitely better.

You've taken Neymar and Suarez out of the equation by supporting Barca.

I might add a few Real players but they wouldn't sell

Xxavi · « **Reply #16432 on:** July 21, 2017, 06:03:34 pm »

Quote from: CrasherKid79 on July 21, 2017, 06:00:12 pm

No, I'm saying put those listed players in the City team at 100 mil a pop and they are infinitely better.

With Van Dijk, that's a very speculative claim then. Doing well for a midtable club is not a guarantee of success at all. Otamendi was a Real Madrid target before going to ManCity and showing that he is actually not that good.

Also, Hummels, too, failed at a big club. Finally, I refuse to believe that Hazard is infinitely better than City's options there. He is good, but let's not exaggerate. De Bruyne is easily a better player for me.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #16433 on:** July 21, 2017, 06:10:27 pm »

Quote from: Xxavi on July 21, 2017, 06:03:34 pm

With Van Dijk, that's a very speculative claim then. Doing well for a midtable club is not a guarantee of success at all. Otamendi was a Real Madrid target before going to ManCity and showing that he is actually not that good.

Also, Hummels, too, failed at a big club. Finally, I refuse to believe that Hazard is infinitely better than City's options there. He is good, but let's not exaggerate. De Bruyne is easily a better player for me.

say what now?

CrasherKid79 · « **Reply #16434 on:** July 21, 2017, 06:11:37 pm »

Quote from: Xxavi on July 21, 2017, 06:03:34 pm

With Van Dijk, that's a very speculative claim then. Doing well for a midtable club is not a guarantee of success at all. Otamendi was a Real Madrid target before going to ManCity and showing that he is actually not that good.

Also, Hummels, too, failed at a big club. Finally, I refuse to believe that Hazard is infinitely better than City's options there. He is good, but let's not exaggerate. De Bruyne is easily a better player for me.

How has Hummels failed? VVD is not speculative, I don't particularly like Hazard as a person for downing tools but he's very, very good.

The players you haven't mentioned De Gea and Lewandowski any thoughts? Or are they shit too?

Abameyaung
Without injury I would add Reus and Bale

The point stands.

Zee_26 · « **Reply #16435 on:** July 21, 2017, 06:11:56 pm »

Quote from: Xxavi on July 21, 2017, 06:03:34 pm

With Van Dijk, that's a very speculative claim then. Doing well for a midtable club is not a guarantee of success at all. Otamendi was a Real Madrid target before going to ManCity and showing that he is actually not that good.

Also, Hummels, too, failed at a big club. Finally, I refuse to believe that Hazard is infinitely better than City's options there. He is good, but let's not exaggerate. De Bruyne is easily a better player for me.

Some bizarre shouts there.

Xxavi · « **Reply #16436 on:** July 21, 2017, 06:34:03 pm »

Quote from: Die Nullfünfer on July 21, 2017, 06:10:27 pm

say what now?

Well, I am judging this based on German media reaction to Hummels performances for Bayern and what I hear from Bayern supporting mates.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #16437 on:** July 21, 2017, 06:35:42 pm »

Quote from: Xxavi on July 21, 2017, 06:34:03 pm

Well, I am judging this based on German media reaction to Hummels performances for Bayern and what I hear from Bayern supporting mates.

maybe try and watch him play for Bayern then.

He's not failed. He had a good enough first season back there.

Xxavi · « **Reply #16438 on:** July 21, 2017, 06:35:55 pm »

Quote from: CrasherKid79 on July 21, 2017, 06:11:37 pm

How has Hummels failed? VVD is not speculative, I don't particularly like Hazard as a person for downing tools but he's very, very good.

The players you haven't mentioned De Gea and Lewandowski any thoughts? Or are they shit too?

Abameyaung
Without injury I would add Reus and Bale

The point stands.

Mate, De Gea and Lewandowski are great but I am not sure why are you even bringing them up as possible options for ManCity. You say it is better to spend 100m on those, yes, but do you think ManU will sell De Gea to ManCity and De Gea will go there? The same with Lewandowski.

You are essentially criticizing ManCity for not making transfers that won't ever happen anyway. If your goal is to cite 5-10 world class players, sure, throw them all in there. But neither Barca nor ManCity have any chance of getting these.

Xxavi · « **Reply #16439 on:** July 21, 2017, 06:36:53 pm »

Quote from: Die Nullfünfer on July 21, 2017, 06:35:42 pm

maybe try and watch him play for Bayern then.

He's not failed. He had a good enough first season back there.

I watch Bayern in CL, Bundesliga has never interested me but I converse with Bayern fans. And I also check out their forums, too. To be fair, they compain just about every one of their players, but my impression was that many didn't think Hummels transfer worked out.