Topic: Jose Manuel Reina

[Matt8Pie]

Absolutely fuck all wrong with it.

[Cpt_Reina]

Bruce Parry is a racist. Nearly everyone in the tribes he lives with is black.

A lot of them dance as well.

What a monster.

[shafticus]

This is a total sham.  Nevertheless, I hope the club and Pepe come out and address this in a way that shows they've learned the PR lessons of the Suarez thing.  Sadly though, I just can't see this going well.

[Sevo]

The anti-racist micro groups like OBV need any and every opportunity to push their cause, whether it's justified or not. Propaganda coups like this will ensure funds for their campaigns and attitudes gain widespread publicity. They have no credibilty and will only alienate people truly committed to fighting racism. If I was Pepe I'd  ask them to direct their questions to all the other actors in the adverts - why I'd ask were they in them. Could it be a harmless way to get a pay cheque?

[Pistolero]

shows you how twisted this whole thing has become when this bit of fluff is used as evidence of LFC related Racism...the journos reporting this shit (and putting OBV on the map) should hang their heads in shame

[lindylou100]

Meh, now ingurland lost tonight, the rags will focus on that tomorrow instead. Its ridiculous but thats how the journo leeches operate in an ever decreasing newspaper market. The sheeple who buy this shit love to be outraged.

[Armand9]

This'll just give more ammunition to the pricks who call us/Kenny/the players racist. They'll obviously miss the point that he was asked to feature in this, innocently, and that he isn't racist.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong in the video at all but I don't know what they say in it.

http://www.joe.ie/football/football-news/so-youve-seen-the-racist-ad-that-has-liverpools-pepe-reina-in-hot-water-right-0021645-1

English subs.

Oh, and I don't believe anyone can find that offensive - what next, tarzan films? Just bullshit shit stirring that quite frankly is embarrassing and anyone genuinely concerned with the issue of racism must be tearing their hair out that nonsense such as this is being claimed as racist et fucking cetera

[1021]

Unrelenting bollocks.

[redrockydennis]

Funny how THAT evra video never got this much publicity

[Toma]

Fucking hell, of course it's Pepe's fault, not the directors who made the advert, and none of the other actors. Not even sure it's really offensive. Kind of trivialises the issue of racism. Everyone falling over themselves to target Liverpool and our players.

[GreatEx]

This is a total sham.  Nevertheless, I hope the club and Pepe come out and address this in a way that shows they've learned the PR lessons of the Suarez thing.  Sadly though, I just can't see this going well.

If by "address" you mean "ignore it" then I agree completely. Much like the List of Demands, this nonsense is not worth wasting our breath on, and only exists because certain newspapers are appealing to the lowest common denominator in an effort to arrest their steep financial decline.

[campioni]

We're an easy target at the minute and every c*nt is taking their chance to have a go at is in order to have their 15 minutes of fame.

This is the same Simon Woolley who defended Diane Abbott for her "White people love playing divide and rule" comment on twitter.

Absolutely no hypocrisy there Simon. Dickhead.

[GreatEx]

Fucking hell, of course it's Pepe's fault, not the directors who made the advert, and none of the other actors.

Weren't you listening to the anti-racist man? It was his joke! Yes, that's right, Pepe Reina is an ad scriptwriter and producer in his spare time. And you call yourself a fan!

[Stussy]

This is a total sham.  Nevertheless, I hope the club and Pepe come out and address this in a way that shows they've learned the PR lessons of the Suarez thing.  Sadly though, I just can't see this going well.

What should the club do? The truth of the matter, is that this is farcical, and overplaying any response at all would simply validate the agenda of the Guardian darlings and identity-politics hustlers.

The club needs to be scrupulous from now onwards, and advance our good work on equality and integration on our own terms, and work extremely hard towards that, as we should be doing anyway.

But like I said before after the Lee Jasper episode (a letter that was signed by Simon Wooley, making me suspect that there is co-ordination here) radio silence for the time being is the best option.

[Stussy]

If by "address" you mean "ignore it" then I agree completely. Much like the List of Demands, this nonsense is not worth wasting our breath on

Exactly right. And Simon Wooley was a signatory to the letter of 'demands'. Smells like co-ordination.

[Lenin.]

Poor Pepe. I bet when he made this advert he never expected an inquisition. 

[shelovesyou]

Simon Woolley ?

http://www.obv.org.uk/news-blogs/liverpool-fc-fuelling-racism

[Cracking Left Foot]

Appalled at this. If there was any doubt there's a witch-hunt against our club, this ought to confirm it.

[jimmyjr86]

I saw it on the beeb and was like wtf?!!! why would he be so stupid.

Then I actually watched the adverts and laughed

[shelovesyou]

I saw it on the beeb and was like wtf?!!! why would he be so stupid.

Then I actually watched the adverts and laughed

And thats the problem. You watched the ad but many wont.

[Armand9]

Simon Woolley ?

http://www.obv.org.uk/news-blogs/liverpool-fc-fuelling-racism

I just did a quick look around at some of his stuff - for me the guy does have a problem with racism - it eminates from himself

[jimmyjr86]

And thats the problem. You watched the ad but many wont.

I know, its like the Suarez report all over again.

(except with video evidence)

[Arathrael]

This is just bizarre. It's a portrayal of a fictional, comic, primitive tribe. How is that offensive to black people such as Reina's team-mates?

You wouldn't expect a white footballer to take offense at the comic portrayal of a white motorcyclist as a violent musclebound psycho in one of the other ads, so why would you expect a black footballer to take offense at the comic portrayal of a black tribesman? The implication is that all black people are the same, so any negative portrayal of a black person must offend all black people - but how racist is that?

Madness.

[El_Pistolero]

Ah, the Beeb have it. Clarke Carlisle and Jason Roberts to give their 'expert' opinions in 3...2...

[Alan_X]

Simon Woolley ?

http://www.obv.org.uk/news-blogs/liverpool-fc-fuelling-racism

Well he certainly doesn't give a flying fuck about facts or the truth:

" A few weeks after the incident, a Liverpool fan wearing a 'we support Suarez' t-shirt, racially abused young Black player Tom Adeyemi during an FA cup tie against Oldham."

Really Simon?...

[Cochise]

nothing fucking wrong with that.

[shelovesyou]

Well he certainly doesn't give a flying fuck about facts or the truth:

" A few weeks after the incident, a Liverpool fan wearing a 'we support Suarez' t-shirt, racially abused young Black player Tom Adeyemi during an FA cup tie against Oldham."

Really Simon?...

Tell me about it, I couldnt be arsed to even post that shit.
But he has an agenda, and he's on it.

[Em5y]

Seems a real shame when a group like OBV which could do so much good in these troubled times feel it is necessary to waste their time on something so daft.

[Armand9]

This is just bizarre. It's a portrayal of a fictional, comic, primitive tribe. How is that offensive to black people such as Reina's team-mates?

You wouldn't expect a white footballer to take offense at the comic portrayal of a white motorcyclist as a violent musclebound psycho in one of the other ads, so why would you expect a black footballer to take offense at the comic portrayal of a black tribesman? The implication is that all black people are the same, so any negative portrayal of a black person must offend all black people - but how racist is that?

Madness.

And that's the infantile mentality being displayed here by Woolly - does he also conclude that it is terribly racist and age-ist against old white spanish women who are depicted as liars and bad drivers?

[Big Red Richie]

I'm a bit late into this one, having only just discovering this story.

I had a quick google and came up with is.

http://www.obv.org.uk/news-blogs/obv-force-spanish-multinational-pull-racist-ad




It really is getting all a bit tiresome now.   I used to be quite open to race relations organisations, but what the recent past has taught me is that they are not so much out to further race relations, as aposed to their own self serving soapbox posturing.

All it's doing for me, is turning me off and making me less likekly to trust them or be open to them in the future.


L.F.C. ceratinly are the sacrificial lamb that is being thrown under the bus.


What next. Glen johnson is a leading member of the  K.K.K.   

[Armand9]

All it's doing for me, is turning me off and making me less likekly to trust them or be open to them in the future.

And that is exactly the damage such childish bullshit like this does to real racism problems, like i said earlier, the problem here is Woolly, he clearly has a problem.

I'm from the west country - typically stereotyped as thick famers with a less-than-healthy liking for cider, do i give a fucking shit when i see the two ronnies chewing on straw, talking over a five-bar gate or catch a re-run of worzel gummidge.

Some twats need to look at themselves instead of displaying mock outrage that insults the issues they're meant to care about.

[macca888]

I used to be quite open to race relations organisations, but what the recent past has taught me is that they are not so much out to further race relations, as aposed to their own self serving soapbox posturing.

All it's doing for me, is turning me off and making me less likekly to trust them or be open to them in the future.

LFC succeeds in it's nefarious aim to turn everybody in the world into racists, one at a time. Big Red Richie, go to Kenny's office tomorrow to collect your ceremonial white robe and pillowcase.

[macca888]

And that is exactly the damage such childish bullshit like this does to real racism problems, like i said earlier, the problem here is Woolly, he clearly has a problem.

I'm from the west country - typically stereotyped as thick famers with a less-than-healthy liking for cider, do i give a fucking shit when i see the two ronnies chewing on straw, talking over a five-bar gate or catch a re-run of worzel gummidge.

Some twats need to look at themselves instead of displaying mock outrage that insults the issues they're meant to care about.

Stereotype my arse. Stop trying to promote your own agenda , yer fucking straw chewing Bulmers supper.


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/LHtfZCMYCP0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/LHtfZCMYCP0</a>

[Red Genius]

Fucking hell Macca, good job i wasn't in work... my colleagues knickers would have been wet as i spat my drink out.

Legend.

[Brook]

This is just bizarre. It's a portrayal of a fictional, comic, primitive tribe. How is that offensive to black people such as Reina's team-mates?

You wouldn't expect a white footballer to take offense at the comic portrayal of a white motorcyclist as a violent musclebound psycho in one of the other ads, so why would you expect a black footballer to take offense at the comic portrayal of a black tribesman? The implication is that all black people are the same, so any negative portrayal of a black person must offend all black people - but how racist is that?

Madness.

I think the most upsetting thing about this whole so-called "racism" saga is that it could actually trivialize and desensitize racism itself.
If anything, it reminds me of the boy who cries wolf - you cry enough times and no one gives a shit.

But well, I'm assuming of course that people are logical and at the very least watch the so-called offensive video and think for themselves before they join the witch hunt..

[abs-ibs]

Its just getting reallly reallly sad now. These ppl r just sad. v sad, like sad sam, but not a cute puppy, just really really sad

[SadRed]

This is a non story. Some sick idiot trying to score brownie points. He can fuck off. The club should say nothing and soon it will be forgotten.

[macca888]

This is a non story. Some sick idiot trying to score brownie points. He can fuck off. The club should say nothing and soon it will be forgotten.

In the midst of a discussion on the racist film maker Pepe Reina, you honestly thought it was a good idea to mention "the brownies?" Get in the queue for pillow cases behind Big Red Richie.

[Armand9]

Stereotype my arse. Stop trying to promote your own agenda , yer fucking straw chewing Bulmers supper.


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/LHtfZCMYCP0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/LHtfZCMYCP0</a>

I fucking hate the wurzles 

My wife used to go to school with the daughter of the guy on the far left in that video - he used to drop her off in his big fuckoff Bentley, performing like a muppet did him alright

[Big Red Richie]

And that is exactly the damage such childish bullshit like this does to real racism problems, like i said earlier, the problem here is Woolly, he clearly has a problem.

I'm from the west country - typically stereotyped as thick famers with a less-than-healthy liking for cider, do i give a fucking shit when i see the two ronnies chewing on straw, talking over a five-bar gate or catch a re-run of worzel gummidge.

Some twats need to look at themselves instead of displaying mock outrage that insults the issues they're meant to care about.

Ain't that a sad truth mate.

I hate biggotry in all it's forms.   But the holier-than-thou, self serving shite, I've seen over the last couple of months is sickening, and in certain quarters has put back race relations, years.


It seems that if they shout racist at you, and you disagree, then that in itself must make you racist.   You're either with us or against us mentality is a fucking subversion of the truth, if ever there was one.