Topic: The Walking Dead

[sideshowme]

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that's changed my mind about the music

[Red_Irishman]

Didn't care for episode 2 at all. Very boring and the kingdom stuff is cringeworthy, even though the king himself recognises that.

Loved the 3rd episode. I like them character pov ones. Dwight is in a horrible situation.

[Macphisto80]

Dwight's a good character. For some reason he reminds me of Christian Bale.

[MagicHat]

Still don't quite understand how folks see it in terms of episodes and their respective 'quality'.

Always a collective for me and can only really be judged as an entity in my view. Clearly, though, most don't seem to agree. Which is fairy snuff.

Still a bit worrying when so many get it so completely fucking wrong though.

 

I think one can separate the two, one can hate a particular episode and love the season for example.

I enjoyed the episode, like last week it is my type of thing where they really try to explore something, could have done with a recap at the start as I clearly misremembered a few things. Good music too! I do realize they need to do a normal episode next week

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I'm preferring Governor to Negan so far but he won't be easy to bring down, the fear he has installed is strong, others love the life he gives them or need what he can ofer, he is a very clever brutal man. There won't be mass defections while he is winning and providing. Was great to get a sense of his operation and to see the capabilities+backstories of Dwight

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[Brian Blessed]

that's changed my mind about the music

There we go, timbo, proof S can see reason from time to time

[Timbo's Goals]

There we go, timbo, proof S can see reason from time to time

Ha ha - wonder if he's heard the Barry Manilow bass mix version

 

[red mongoose]

Negan needs to calm the fuck down with all the bopping and lip licking and shit. Less is more, bro.

[Garrus]

Negan needs to calm the fuck down with all the bopping and lip licking and shit. Less is more, bro.

Yep, kind of feel he's being overused. I wish they'd space out his appearances a little more, keep the menace lurking in the shadows.

[redk84]

Did anyone see Dave Chappelle's recent take on the Walking Dead? 

Unfortunately I have no link...

[Gods_Left_Boot]

Did anyone see Dave Chappelle's recent take on the Walking Dead? 

Unfortunately I have no link...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG0wQRsXLi4

Absolute gold if you remember the characters from Chappelle's show.

[JoeCole]

Really liked Episode 4, especially that Negan/Father Gabriel scene 

Spoilers from the Ep5 preview

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Looks like next weeks is breaking the current run of only featuring one set of characters. Looks like it mainly focuses on the Hilltop people vs the Saviours but also had Carl/Enid in it so should see more of Rick's group too

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[Redman0151]

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Alexandria and the Hilltop combined STILL isn't enough, oh boy I hope Morgan runs into another powerful group with a leader and fighters!

Decent episode, loved that they just burnt all the mattresses, perfect. That snap zoom out with Negan at the gate was hilariously bad though, looked like a Tarantino movie for a moment.

The Governor looks like a pussy right now, i'd be happy if they just offed Rick's group and made the show about Negan

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[sideshowme]

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effective episode, and all the time rick and negan were onscreen together really worked.

a decent depiction of a brutalised and crushed populace though. couldn't help but think of the palestinians, which is the first time TWD has made me think of anything serious (obviously nothing like the palestinians really, as negan actually left them their food...)

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[Bunter]

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Is Negan going to keep doing the intimidating rhetorical monologue thing every single time he's on screen? As its becoming a bit tiresome. I was rolling my eyes by the end of the episode wishing he'd just shut up.

Also I really hope they break out of this, one group - one episode routine they're in. I might be in a minority but the season so far feels like it could have been condensed down to 2 episodes.

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[Realdidi]

Thought it was a great episode again, the tension and feeling of helplessness in ricks camp they have created is brilliant and Daryl character now reminds me of Reek out of GOT. Can't wait for next week!

[Yiannis]

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effective episode, and all the time rick and negan were onscreen together really worked.

a decent depiction of a brutalised and crushed populace though. couldn't help but think of the palestinians, which is the first time TWD has made me think of anything serious (obviously nothing like the palestinians really, as negan actually left them their food...)

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Ha. Interesting analogy. Not quite the same as you said but a decent starting point.

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Full episode the latest one. Both in its duration and the fact they featured the most interesting camps for me as of now. Operation submission goes on and I liked what I mostly saw but as it was mentioned the writers really don't do any favours to Negan.

It's not the actor, it's the writers. They force him to talk THAT way every other sentence. Dragging his words, do a certain voice etc. It's becoming tiresome.
As I said after episode one, I understand it's part of the process to make him badass and fearsome and what not, but too much dose of that and it goes wrong. Needs some balancing.

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[red mongoose]

Ha. Interesting analogy. Not quite the same as you said but a decent starting point.

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Full episode the latest one. Both in its duration and the fact they featured the most interesting camps for me as of now. Operation submission goes on and I liked what I mostly saw but as it was mentioned the writers really don't do any favours to Negan.

It's not the actor, it's the writers. They force him to talk THAT way every other sentence. Dragging his words, do a certain voice etc. It's becoming tiresome.
As I said after episode one, I understand it's part of the process to make him badass and fearsome and what not, but too much dose of that and it goes wrong. Needs some balancing.

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Absolutely. I was really getting tired of it by the middle of the episode. I like the character a lot, but he's not the fucking Joker.

[Bunter]

Absolutely. I was really getting tired of it by the middle of the episode. I like the character a lot, but he's not the fucking Joker.

I'm assuming (having NOT read the comic) that he just doesn't translate to TV well.. but yeah, he's becoming a pantomime villain. That's the problem when you go brutal from the off, it's hard for him to keep the menace up and the characters don't feel in as much peril as you become used to his sadism.

[Six Beardy]

Negan's panto villain act is already boring me senseless. I'd rather listen to Easy Street on repeat than have to endure another one of his tiresome monologues, complete with the actor's scenery chewing, exaggerated body tics and ridiculous speech inflections. For all the long drawn out dialogue he gets you could watch on mute and it wouldn't make a single difference to understanding what's going on. I'm struggling to think of a TV character/acting performance I've been as irritated by.

For the first time ever I'm losing interest in the show. 

[The G in Gerrard]

Don't get the criticism of Negan.

[sideshowme]

I'm assuming (having NOT read the comic) that he just doesn't translate to TV well..

having read the comic... (no spoilers in here but just in case anyone doesn't want to read it...):

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...i'd agree with you.  the character works much better at conveying menace frame to frame on the page - he doesn't have to do all that odd cutesy bobbing and weaving, for a start.  plus the comic character's deficiencies are somewhat masked by some creative swearing (not quite malcolm tucker levels, but still funny) - the TV version just talks about his (and others') balls a lot.

plus (from memory) the comic draws from an angle that makes him look huge all the time - a giant among men.  the actor isn't really that.

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[Graeme]

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Surely Negan is going to find out Maggie isn't dead and she's at the Hilltop and punish the group for lying?

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[Sir Psycho Sexy]

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Surely Negan is going to find out Maggie isn't dead and she's at the Hilltop and punish the group for lying?

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it will probably work out like that, but it's not like he asked about her right? Rick didn't lie buy not mentioning her i suppose

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[Red_Irishman]

Thought it was quite boring again. Negan being overused and a lot of brooding from Rick.

[Tomaldinho]

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it will probably work out like that, but it's not like he asked about her right? Rick didn't lie buy not mentioning her i suppose

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Not sure if serious? There was a whole scene, he asked about her and they took him to a fake grave and he said it was a shame cos he was going to ask her to go with him, despite caving her husband's head in.

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[OneTouchFooty]

Glad I'm not the only one that's getting bored of Negan and his monologues already, I can't believe that whole episode was required to make essentially the same point. We get it, Negan is a nasty, unjust fucker and the group are his bitches. I hope we get some depth to him soon and not just having to put up with this one dimensional camp baddy. After all the hype about this guy, I think I prefer the Guv'nor by a mile. Been a really slow and uninspiring start to the season.

[Red_Irishman]

Glad I'm not the only one that's getting bored of Negan and his monologues already, I can't believe that whole episode was required to make essentially the same point. We get it, Negan is a nasty, unjust fucker and the group are his bitches. I hope we get some depth to him soon and not just having to put up with this one dimensional camp baddy. After all the hype about this guy, I think I prefer the Guv'nor by a mile. Been a really slow and uninspiring start to the season.

Apart from the first episode. That was good.

[The G in Gerrard]

Thought interaction between Rick and Negan was one of the highlights yesterday.

[OneTouchFooty]

Apart from the first episode. That was good.

Sorry, that was very good. I suppose I didn't really count it, as it was a conclusion of last season's finale in a way.

[Red_Irishman]

Sorry, that was very good. I suppose I didn't really count it, as it was a conclusion of last season's finale in a way.

True, I totally agree with your point though. It hasn't been great at all since that first episode.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

I feel like some people should just stop watching this show, I thought last night's episode had some of the more powerful moments within the last few seasons.

I do worry about its future slightly though, purely because I just don't see where they go with the main characters now.

[CrasherKid79]

I feel like some people should just stop watching this show, I thought last night's episode had some of the more powerful moments within the last few seasons.

I do worry about its future slightly though, purely because I just don't see where they go with the main characters now.

Kill them all, it's the only solution ...... except Carol, she can live ... fuck the rest of them though

[Gili Gulu]

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I find the Negan character ridiculous. No-one would suffer someone like that, he'd have been killed in his sleep a long time ago. He's demonstrated absolute no discernible leadership skills at all, and is far too in love with the sound of his own voice.

For someone who's supposed to be intelligent he makes some pretty stupid decisions. Burning all the beds in Alexandria makes no sense, as he needs the inhabitants well-rested so they can gather more food.

Likewise taking all the handguns is stupid. The Saviors heavily outnumber the populace of Alexandria, and have all the automatic and semi-automatic weapons. Why risk the lives of people who are working for you?

All the taunting and pettiness serves no purpose at all apart from entertaining Negan, and increasing the chances of his "subjects" rising up against him.

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[Shite Name]

Last nights show was brilliant, Negan was ruthless in it, I can't see why there is all dislike to him.

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

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Not sure if serious? There was a whole scene, he asked about her and they took him to a fake grave and he said it was a shame cos he was going to ask her to go with him, despite caving her husband's head in.

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aaaaaaand now i remember

[Macphisto80]

Don't get the criticism of Negan.

Nor I.

The criticisms, ironically, say that the show has absolutely nailed his character, because that's how he actually is in the comic, only without the cursing. The fact that he's irritating people means his character is spot on. He's a pompous douchbag, that's often very childish, but then he will do something horrific at the drop of a hat without anyone suspecting it, and that's what makes him scary. He's also a bit of an oddball, because he actually harbors moral principles. The show hasn't really touched on that aspect of his nature yet, apart from the scene where he takes the gun off of Rick and points it at Daryl, but then just shoots the gun randomly at a window. Had it hit someone, he'd have just laughed it off and blamed them for standing in the spot where the bullet went.

[Redman0151]

Nor I.

The criticisms, ironically, say that the show has absolutely nailed his character, because that's how he actually is in the comic, only without the cursing. The fact that he's irritating people means his character is spot on. He's a pompous douchbag, that's often very childish, but then he will do something horrific at the drop of a hat without anyone suspecting it, and that's what makes him scary. He's also a bit of an oddball, because he actually harbors moral principles. The show hasn't really touched on that aspect of his nature yet, apart from the scene where he takes the gun off of Rick and points it at Daryl, but then just shoots the gun randomly at a window. Had it hit someone, he'd have just laughed it off and blamed them for standing in the spot where the bullet went.

I think they kinda showed a bit of the moral principle part when he said Dwight could fuck some woman but only if she agreed to it, and when he got mad at his helper for manhandling the fat woman. His moral compass is interesting

[Xxavi]

This season has been tragic so far. Extremely, extremely boring and slow. I mean I was bored of Negan's slow chatting in the first episode, and by now, it is a fucking torture the same stuff every fucking minute of it.

I do wonder if showmakers tried to watch every episode twice. If they couldn't get through them without fast forwarding, then it probably means it is total shit. This past episode... you know, it really really is one of the worst TV show episodes I have seen in a while. Literally 2 sentence summary is enough for this episode. Truly garbage waste of time.

[JLStretton]

if you never enjoyed season 7 episode one then I would defo give up and go watch something else.  Negan put in the best performance of the show so far it was on another level to the rest of the show to date in my opinion.

[Red Viper]

Not sure why that was worthy of an extra long episode to be honest.

Feels like after starting with a bang this series has now slowed to a fucking snail's pace.