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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8840 on: March 31, 2013, 08:44:36 am »
That i am Thomas , hence my CT. Im a big softie really. Probably.............
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8841 on: April 8, 2013, 07:42:46 pm »
Now i understand the seriousness of this thread and what it means to some, me included of course , but im having an extra beer tonight. Ive had a brilliant day and i will have me a little party. Ding fucking dong.
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8842 on: April 8, 2013, 08:59:11 pm »
I dont ;)

me neither

facing your faults is not exactly a happy thing

this isnt the "Ive had a fucking great day thread'

this is the 'im a fucking addict' thread

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8843 on: April 8, 2013, 09:27:29 pm »
I think you may have mis interpreted my post.
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8844 on: April 8, 2013, 09:30:02 pm »
me neither

facing your faults is not exactly a happy thing

this isnt the "Ive had a fucking great day thread'

this is the 'im a fucking addict' thread

just my own thoughts to be honest

I hate being an addict and not being able to enjoy what i enjoy

but overall the thread is a god send

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8845 on: April 8, 2013, 09:47:55 pm »
I understand mate, you know i do. It was more aimed at the wicked witch and was very much tongue in cheek. This thread is a godsend and i would never belittle the posters in here or their struggles with their addiction.
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8846 on: April 8, 2013, 10:09:36 pm »
Carl the real reason you'll be having that extra beer isn't because that wretched c*nt has kicked the bucket. Its because that cuntish little addiction of yours is conning you into convincing yourself that its an acceptable reason to drink

That's what it does. I know because, see, I'm an addict too.

I had the knob polished off me by a fit bird on Saturday night. Do you know what my reaction was? That's right, celebrate afterwards with a beer. You know? Just the one beer like? I mean, its not every day you get your bone hoovered by a hotty right?

Its strange though, because when I broke up with my last missus, I wanted to have a beer then too. Even though it wasn't a happy moment. It was a sad one.

Its always confused me that. Wanting a drink when I'm happy. Wanting a drink when I'm sad. Convincing myself that its ok just to have the 1 drink because its sunny outside, or because its a Saturday night, or because my footy accumulator came in, or any other valid reason my addiction can try to conjure up. Which oddly enough, recently included me being the lucky recipient of a blow job. Heck, I'm having steak for my tea tonight. And we all know the best way to wash down a juicy steak right? Yeah, a nice cold beer. Just the one of course, yeah, only the one, I'll stop after one etc etc etc

Its a bastard being an addict innit?



 
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8847 on: April 8, 2013, 10:18:28 pm »
Maybe Billy, but i didnt have an extra one mate. I had less that i normally would which is now better than it was.3 pints is a decent step forward imo. It was meant in jest to be honest but it seems ive stepped out somewhat.
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8848 on: April 8, 2013, 10:27:50 pm »
Maybe Billy, but i didnt have an extra one mate. I had less that i normally would which is now better than it was.3 pints is a decent step forward imo. It was meant in jest to be honest but it seems ive stepped out somewhat.

I know you meant it in jest Carl. I'm only breaking your balls. At the end of the day, your sobriety, or apparent lack thereof, isn't my responsibility. It's yours.

I and everyone else in here use this thread as a place for offering words of advice, and encouragement. But its ultimately up to every individual to manage their own shop

You're still in denial mate. You're still playing the "well I don't drink as much as I used to anymore" card.

Just because you have reduced your intake doesn't alleviate the fact that you still actually drink.
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8849 on: April 8, 2013, 10:34:46 pm »
Indeed it doesnt, but im in a much happier place doing what im doing now than when i was when i was hitting 50-70 units a day. Ive also said im not doing as well as you or Andy, but im doing better. Reduction is better than increase, yes? You will come back with a very good argument that im kidding myself and maybe i am, but im happier now than ive been for a long time. Thats a good step no?
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8850 on: April 8, 2013, 10:35:13 pm »
If HF's extra beer makes it four instead of three, I don't see the problem. I read this thread and I know all about the Holy Grail of alcoholics, the "Being Able To Drink And Not Have A Problem". For many drinkers, that's not possible, but not for all. People are different. Michael Caine was on two bottles of vodka a day and stopped when he got married, just drank socially for the rest of his life. I used to binge drink, twice, three times a week when I was young but then I got older and it wasn't as much fun having hangovers. I drink regularly and modestly now, I'm not interested in being drunk but I still like drinking beer.

I'm not suggesting I was an alcoholic, far from it (particularly in Irish culture) but I don't pay much attention to the label "alcoholic". Most people who drink are just at various points along a scale and often different points at different stages in their lives. It is true that some people can't drink at all, but most people can do so regularly without any problem and yes, some people who used to have a destructive relationship with drink now have a normal one. I have a few relations who would be considered heavy drinkers and yet they go off it for Lent every year. People are different.

So if HF can drink three or four beers, and get up next morning to do a day's work, and generally not be a prick? Well, that sounds like a normal relationship with drink to me.

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8851 on: April 9, 2013, 06:02:35 am »
Generally not be a prick , what are you insinuating mate ;)

I can see where people are coming from but things have/are changing in my life that will pull me further away from the drink. I will elucidate further as and when i can but ive not longer a need for a drink. I enjoy a quiet beer after work. Two words a few years ago seemed impossible. Work and Enjoy. Work has been a fucking revelation for me and has really helped me, that then has opened other doors previously unavailable as i was pissed. I have joined a well know bike club, even though you may associate that with bawdy parties and orgies, its helping also. Today we have a funeral escort and the club has been asked to be the escort for the hearse. Cant drink as im riding. Its little things that help me focus that are keeping me from drinking stupidly.


Hard to explain but its not like im not making some kind of effort, because i am.
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8852 on: April 11, 2013, 10:23:31 am »
Does anybody know of a good private detox centre in the Liverpool area? Been down the NHS route and it wasnt very good.

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8853 on: April 17, 2013, 05:42:07 pm »
You know, the biggest thing with not drinking is that you don't know what else to do.

Listening to music   + have a couple of drinks
Watching football    + have a couple of drinks
Go round to a mate + have a couple of drinks
Visiting the family    + have a couple of drinks

I find it hard to really enjoy things without a couple of drinks.
I'm in my 40's now and I'm used to drinking with almost everything fun I do.

I have been suffering with pancreatitis since just after we won the Champions League, so since 2005.
Every year I've had 3 or more, ehm, attacks, being sick and in a lot of pain for about a week.
Still I did not stop drinking.
Sometimes it was so bad, and I was in so much pain, but the day the pain was gone I was back in the pub.
Crazy, I know. Crazy and fucking insane, really.
But still I keep on being stupid.

Excuses? Sure ...
Everybody I know drinks.
Sometimes it's also the fear of having to quit or get the pain again that makes me drink even more.

Sometimes people tell me to hang around with different people.
Where the fuck would I find those ?
If I had liked those other people I would have found them a long time ago !

I don't know what to do.
Most of the time I feel alright, though.
I've got quite a good life too, I can do almost everything I want.
I do most of my work from my home, so that's sort of convenient too, when I'm ill, like.

The thing I hate the most about all of this, is my wife.
We are not married but we have been together since 1991, so I always call her my wife.
It's not really funny to find a drunken man in the house, asleep on the couch.
Or a man who can't stand up straight because of the pain.

Well, one thing is certain, I can't do it on my own ...
I need to talk to my doctor about it, again ....
Personally I don't have much faith in all these talkgroups that he will undoubtedly send me to.
But I guess it's better then doing noting at all.

But first we are going on holiday ...
Yeeaah !

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8854 on: April 19, 2013, 01:35:57 am »
You know, the biggest thing with not drinking is that you don't know what else to do.

Listening to music   + have a couple of drinks
Watching football    + have a couple of drinks
Go round to a mate + have a couple of drinks
Visiting the family    + have a couple of drinks

I find it hard to really enjoy things without a couple of drinks.
I'm in my 40's now and I'm used to drinking with almost everything fun I do.

I have been suffering with pancreatitis since just after we won the Champions League, so since 2005.
Every year I've had 3 or more, ehm, attacks, being sick and in a lot of pain for about a week.
Still I did not stop drinking.
Sometimes it was so bad, and I was in so much pain, but the day the pain was gone I was back in the pub.
Crazy, I know. Crazy and fucking insane, really.
But still I keep on being stupid.

Excuses? Sure ...
Everybody I know drinks.
Sometimes it's also the fear of having to quit or get the pain again that makes me drink even more.

Sometimes people tell me to hang around with different people.
Where the fuck would I find those ?
If I had liked those other people I would have found them a long time ago !

I don't know what to do.
Most of the time I feel alright, though.
I've got quite a good life too, I can do almost everything I want.
I do most of my work from my home, so that's sort of convenient too, when I'm ill, like.

The thing I hate the most about all of this, is my wife.
We are not married but we have been together since 1991, so I always call her my wife.
It's not really funny to find a drunken man in the house, asleep on the couch.
Or a man who can't stand up straight because of the pain.

Well, one thing is certain, I can't do it on my own ...
I need to talk to my doctor about it, again ....
Personally I don't have much faith in all these talkgroups that he will undoubtedly send me to.
But I guess it's better then doing noting at all.

But first we are going on holiday ...
Yeeaah !

Firstly mate, i apologise it's taken this long for you to get a reply here, it's a testament to how those in here have progressed to how slow this thread has progressed.

You explain you have a partner (you call your wife) - i lost mine last year due to my drinking, i'm a 29 year old bloke who grew up very quickly following that experience.

Can i ask why you drink? It appears you have a whole lot of good going for you...  my experience, for what it's worth, without identifying the reason you drink, it's difficult to resolve it.
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8855 on: April 19, 2013, 04:40:14 pm »
Aye RG, ive been so busy at work and also not been able to log on RAWK  ive not seen these posts.


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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8856 on: April 19, 2013, 04:41:59 pm »
i feel bad I didnt reply either. It was such a long post, it deserved a long answer and I never felt like I had the time to do it justice

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8857 on: April 19, 2013, 04:59:49 pm »
We're all here when you're ready to talk Ron mate.
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8858 on: April 19, 2013, 08:27:09 pm »
Sorry Ron.  Apologies for the delay.  Mr May has been unwell.  Now you've made the first step say more and we will help.  You are among friends here.   :wave
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8859 on: April 20, 2013, 09:19:30 pm »
Its a good point thats arisen. This thread has gone quiet and for mostly the right reasons. Obviously Paul is no longer here so thats a loss of input.


Just thought id add that im doing ok, i just got a promotion and a payrise and i get another payrise in a month or two when ive learnt the CAD machine. Its a fucking absolute black/white scenario from where i was. I feel better all round, im not perfect by any means but i feel better in myself. All i needed to help me start was a job. Thats how it looks to me. From attempted suicide to promotion, i guess i needed the low points to get me going. I dont even begin to think ive got it beat because i have not. I dont think i ever will but i think ive come to manage it it a more ' normal ' manner if that makes sense. Need to crack on with my book as well, ive been busy as fuck lately so no time for that or drinking. Never thought id hear those words.


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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8860 on: April 20, 2013, 09:58:52 pm »
Fantastic news :)

Bloody well done.
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Re: Alcohol Issues
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8862 on: April 21, 2013, 08:44:15 am »
You're an interesting man, HF.


Hehe, in what way? Ive been called many things in my time............


Cheers TW, also joined a bike club and obviously that means i cant drink when out on a run which furthermore reduces my intake.
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8863 on: April 21, 2013, 09:57:03 am »
Ron, you've done the right thing and opened up to the people in here. use this thread and take what you can from it. With SHF in mind you can only win in here... :)

Carl, I've told you several times before and I'll do it again now: Fantastic achievement!! Keep going and you'll learn to manage your problem. I've no doubt whatsoever!! :thumbup

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8864 on: April 22, 2013, 10:18:14 pm »
Just as another add on, and yes i know this isnt a  ' ive had a great day ' thread but this is the addicts thread. Its to plot our plights and struggles and our ups and downs. Ive been told today after my promotion that ill be promoted again in 6-8 weeks with another pay rise. Even i can admit ive come a fair way in certain areas. Why do i not feel good about it though. Im happy , kind of , that ive been recognised and rewarded for my hard work but i feel nowt really. Weird innit :)
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8865 on: April 22, 2013, 10:22:55 pm »
That's some quality careering, there, HF.

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8866 on: April 22, 2013, 10:30:30 pm »
Ye it is mate but i dont feel it. Everyone ive spoken to has said well done etc, but i dont feel it. Id have thought after the last few years i could say ive done ok but.....................I know i have but........................
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8867 on: April 22, 2013, 10:39:26 pm »
Ye it is mate but i dont feel it. Everyone ive spoken to has said well done etc, but i dont feel it. Id have thought after the last few years i could say ive done ok but.....................I know i have but........................
fuck it
take the credit

i think the truth is that some little promotion at work does not even come close to the changes in your personal life, putting one against the other, I can see that a work promotion is some beer compared to what you have actually done on your own

but WTF, its positive right, take the credit and be happy

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8868 on: April 22, 2013, 11:33:15 pm »
Ye it is mate but i dont feel it. Everyone ive spoken to has said well done etc, but i dont feel it. Id have thought after the last few years i could say ive done ok but.....................I know i have but........................

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8869 on: April 23, 2013, 01:29:18 pm »
I was sort of dreading going back here, you know.
I had seen one reply on my post and it scared me a bit.
When you read about somebody else losing there wife to drink, jesus, I felt like a little cry baby (with my "small" problems).
That is why I did not react sooner, I had to think about, well, this post.

Some answers 1st then:

I live in Den Haag in The Netherlands.
When I grew up it was sort of a nice place.
Politics where quite tolerable, the law was fairly easy, compared to now.
I grew up with my mum as an only child, I've only met my father once or twice when I was about 3 or 4.
Not "having" a dad never bothered me much.
What I did hate was the way my mother was treated by others because she had me.
My mother came from a rather strict Christian background, so getting a child in 1970 without being married was a real no-no.

...

Oh fuck, I feel like I'm on the couch now !
I don't know if this is a good idea ...
Anyway, I said A so I have to say B now ...

The reason why I drink.

Of course I have my regrets about mistakes I've made, chances I blew and all that.
But chose things are no reason to drink for me.
When I grew up we used to go to my aunt and uncles house quite often.
They where sort of liberal, for Christians anyway.
They used to have these big parties with lost of people there.
I used to love that as a kid.
Hearing the noise of people talking without hearing what they where on about.
The sound, the smell of cigarettes and the drinks.
I drank my first beer there when I was about, 6 I guess.
The drinks were in the back room so nobody really noticed me drinking.
I used to steal cigarettes there too when I was a little older.

I've always loved alcohol.
I love the feeling, especially the first sort of "getting there" feeling.
Floating off a little, yeah, I love that.

We used to play outside where I lived when I grew up.
My main thing was nicking bottles of beer out of crates from peoples garden.
I remember some of my friends doing the same thing, and then bringing the bottles to me, because they didn't like beer themselves !
I used to climb in a big tree with a couple of bottles in my pocket and drinking them up there.

You know, the stupid thing, looking back, is that a lot of grown ups found it quite funny to see me drinking.
It was always looked upon as sort of naughty, rather then something evil.
Like your son has hit some other kid and saying "you shouldn't", but in your heart you feel a little proud.*

When I was about 18 I started using heavy drugs too.
I'd been smoking cannabis since I was about 14.
That was quite normal in Den Haag.
At that time I was into aggressive Rock n Roll and I used to run with the FC Den Haag hooligans.
Most of the kids I knew were smoking.
When I turned 19 I found out I had to stop using smack.
I could not afford it and didn't want to go into junkie life.
Then I REALLY started drinking.

And now I'm here.
The only explanation I've got for my drinking behaviour is an almost childlike desire to always have fun.
At this very moment I'm looking at the clock.
Still a bit early ...

Having said that, about fun and all, it's not so much fun anymore.
It has become a lifestyle.
It's like I'm addicted not just to the drink but also to the going out,
listening to stories you've heard 100 times before,
complaining about the weather and politics,
talking about what kind of stupid thing Suarez has done now,
you know, all those recurring bullshit topics ...

It used to be about having fun, drinking with your mates.
We used to have a bar that played my kind of music, but that's all gone.
Europe has even forced us to stand outside to have a cigarette now.

No, it's not fun anymore.
But still, I need my walk ...

I did this post as I went, so maybe (probably) it's a bit difficult to read.
I have not drank alcohol since Friday 12th now and I don't want to start today.
But it's a fucking struggle, every day again.
(Not so much in the weekend, my wife is home then and I like to stay in then.
Although I used to go out to watch the football too, some times.)
I'm not saying I'm quitting, I mean, I love to drink.
But at least I want to get my health up a bit before go off to America next month.

Thanks for all your posts !
It means a lot to me !

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8870 on: April 23, 2013, 01:35:03 pm »
good post

everyone has their own story and the advantage of these threads is you realize your story is usually similar to lots of others

most of us have lost plenty of things in here, spouses jobs, take your pick

it sounds like you are on the right track

the biggest one is exactly what you say, just get through today

dont worry about tomorrow

do something to get through today and dont drink

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8871 on: April 23, 2013, 03:34:34 pm »
Yep. Take it one day at a time. And fill your day up with stuff to do. Try not to leave any periods of idle time.

Go for a jog, a swim, a round of golf, a drive, a wank in the bog. Do anything. Just don't let yourself become idle.

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8872 on: April 23, 2013, 05:02:31 pm »
Just as another add on, and yes i know this isnt a  ' ive had a great day ' thread but this is the addicts thread. Its to plot our plights and struggles and our ups and downs. Ive been told today after my promotion that ill be promoted again in 6-8 weeks with another pay rise. Even i can admit ive come a fair way in certain areas. Why do i not feel good about it though. Im happy , kind of , that ive been recognised and rewarded for my hard work but i feel nowt really. Weird innit :)

Oh my dear Grandling.  I am so very, very proud of you.
Rather a day as a lion than a lifetime as a sheep.

I can only be nice to one person a day.  Today is not your day.  Tomorrow doesn't look too good either.
I tried being reasonable.  I didn't like it.  Old enough to know better.  Young enough not to give a fuck.

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8873 on: April 23, 2013, 07:11:32 pm »
Thanks Nana, appreciate it :) Yea Corkboy , i think thats it. Its been so shit the last few years its like i expect it to all go tits up. Seems i had to lose it all to move up. I do sit and think what i lost. My wife, home, kids, car,life,sanity, 3 times in rehab , many fights etc etc etc. Was it all worth it, fuck no, do i regret it? Yes to a point. But i needed them points to realise life is more than what i thought it was. Bastard fucking tough lesson but im learning.


Ron, good post mate and one many in here can associate with. Its tough talking at first, then it becomes easier. You'll find that we are well moderated in here and the mods do a fine job of keeping an eye on posts here so dont worry about that. I sometimes think this thread has an alarm attached to it for when a new post is added lol.
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8874 on: April 23, 2013, 07:13:07 pm »
Fuck. Does this mean when you get promoted we're going to have to make a Lord? (or a Lrd :p :wave )

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8875 on: April 23, 2013, 07:16:12 pm »
Hell yea, or a Viscount. Or a Duke. Yea i think its time i got a promotion here as well. ;)
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8876 on: April 23, 2013, 08:09:55 pm »
Fuck. Does this mean when you get promoted we're going to have to make a Lord? (or a Lrd :p :wave )

Erm.  Lord is not good enough.  His Grace, His Magnificence or The Blessed Harvest Fields are possibilties though.
Rather a day as a lion than a lifetime as a sheep.

I can only be nice to one person a day.  Today is not your day.  Tomorrow doesn't look too good either.
I tried being reasonable.  I didn't like it.  Old enough to know better.  Young enough not to give a fuck.

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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8877 on: April 23, 2013, 09:25:50 pm »
Im liking this step forward ;)
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8878 on: April 23, 2013, 09:36:58 pm »
Serf Harvest Fields...... Back in yer place ;)


Well done though mate, triumph in the face of adversity like this is inspirational.
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Re: Alcohol Issues
« Reply #8879 on: April 23, 2013, 10:54:31 pm »
Hell yea, or a Viscount. Or a Duke. Yea i think its time i got a promotion here as well. ;)

We could use Viscount. Good shout Carl.

Obviously we'd remove the letters v, i, s and o, but the rest are fine.
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