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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37200 on: February 8, 2012, 06:58:08 pm »
2-0.

Ajax don't look that good... but on the other hand, they're beating Barcelona youth.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37201 on: February 8, 2012, 07:00:12 pm »
Should've scored that.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37202 on: February 8, 2012, 07:01:27 pm »
Should've scored that.

The Barcelona header? Yeah, thought it was in.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37203 on: February 8, 2012, 07:02:33 pm »
We should be moving heaven and earth to try and get that Betinho chap. Just the different array of goal he scores in the below video and from watching his all round play in the Liverpool games he looks something special.

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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37204 on: February 8, 2012, 07:04:03 pm »
We should be moving heaven and earth to try and get that Betinho chap. Just the different array of goal he scores in the below video and from watching his all round play in the Liverpool games he looks something special.

Unsurprisingly he's one of the ones they've given a full contract to. He looked a proper player him.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37205 on: February 8, 2012, 07:05:36 pm »
Unsurprisingly he's one of the ones they've given a full contract to. He looked a proper player him.

anyway it would be easy to get him from sporting IMO. They are in deep, deep shit.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37206 on: February 8, 2012, 07:11:13 pm »
3-0. Well worked goal that.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37207 on: February 8, 2012, 07:11:16 pm »
Unsurprisingly he's one of the ones they've given a full contract to. He looked a proper player him.

I wouldn't mind paying a big price for him. Surely a decent offer would tempt them, aren't they in financial trouble?

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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37208 on: February 8, 2012, 07:11:18 pm »
anyway it would be easy to get him from sporting IMO. They are in deep, deep shit.

Doubt it. For me it would've been like us deciding to sell Sterling under G&H, but futher down the line. I can see them maybe selling Van Wolfswinkle a season earlier than they'd like and then playing Betinho in his place. I can't in anyway see why they'd sell him now. I think they'd sooner sell first teamers and get some real money in. They won't sell him until he's playing for their first team and he's worth a lot more to them.

I want to know what the deal with Bruma is for them. He was talked up as their best prospect before the game at Anfield (but he was really underwhelming). If I remember correctly Andy Heaton said that Betinho, Chaby and the right back were the ones they gave pro-contracts too. Does that mean his stock has fallen pretty drastically in 6 months?
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37209 on: February 8, 2012, 07:11:28 pm »
2-0.

Ajax don't look that good... but on the other hand, they're beating Barcelona youth.
To be fair, they haven't messed about when they've got through Barca's (weak) defences. We could dominate the whole game, then switch off once... :P

Still, I haven't been sitting here open-mouthed like I was at times watching Sporting school us at theirs.
We should be moving heaven and earth to try and get that Betinho chap. Just the different array of goal he scores in the below video and from watching his all round play in the Liverpool games he looks something special.
I need no convincing, I'm following his career as closely as I can after his two performances against our lads - it's more whether Sporting are in enough financial bother to let such a talent go at this stage... surely not.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37210 on: February 8, 2012, 07:12:13 pm »
what the fuck just happened to the match? Did ajax go up 3-0 there?

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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37211 on: February 8, 2012, 07:13:09 pm »
what the fuck just happened to the match? Did akax go up 3-0 there?

I think so, stream's gone for me too and now the website's not working.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37212 on: February 8, 2012, 07:13:40 pm »
^ Ajax just scored -1 goal.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37213 on: February 8, 2012, 07:13:46 pm »
I think so, stream's gone for me too and now the website's not working.
im watching it on the youtube link. Back to 1-0 now

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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37214 on: February 8, 2012, 07:14:05 pm »
They went 3-0 up (really good goal) then the stream went back to about 10 minutes in.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37215 on: February 8, 2012, 07:14:29 pm »
That 3rd one was well worked, think Ajax got a bit of luck during the build for the first two, no mistaking the finishes though.

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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37216 on: February 8, 2012, 07:14:35 pm »
im watching it on the youtube link. Back to 1-0 now

2 ineligible players for Ajax apparently. They've agreed to go back to 0-1.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37217 on: February 8, 2012, 07:15:17 pm »
im watching it on the youtube link. Back to 1-0 now

Go to Barca's Youtube channel

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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37218 on: February 8, 2012, 07:16:24 pm »
im watching it on the youtube link. Back to 1-0 now

Yeah sorry that's what I meant.

Go to Barca's Youtube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/fcbarcelona/featured

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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37220 on: February 8, 2012, 07:24:24 pm »
sheyi_ojo sheyi ojo
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37221 on: February 8, 2012, 07:26:43 pm »
Well, I thought Barca could've easily won that if they'd made better use of that magic watch.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37222 on: February 8, 2012, 07:28:54 pm »
The nice lady on Barcatv has a bit of ladyboy about her, but I'd push through that.

That was two very good teams.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37223 on: February 8, 2012, 07:36:52 pm »
The nice lady on Barcatv has a bit of ladyboy about her, but I'd push through that.

That was two very good teams.

I'd agree from the little bit I saw. The Ajax boys, especially, were so comfortable with the ball. Some of the first-time control of awkward passes was superb. The two centre-backs were very quick to break from defence into any gaps that were offered too. I imagine they'll have a lot of the ball at Anfield.

But will they be able to cope with Raheem?
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37224 on: February 8, 2012, 07:44:50 pm »
Regarding the Reserves match against Norwich, they had to play without a proper keeper in the second half. Their keeper got injured and they had no backup keeper on the bench, so had to put an outfield player in goal!  :o

Also what game did Ojo play? He mentions that he has been training with Dalglish, is this with the First Team or with the Reserves/U18s?
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37225 on: February 8, 2012, 07:49:03 pm »
^ If Suso has another game in the centre like the one he enjoyed at Spurs, and Coady and Roddan are up for a full night of chasing round, closing down and breaking their shit up, I don't think they'd neccessarily slice through us, however nice their technical skills - I could be wrong. But defo if they get many decent chances, they do look as if they'll make them count without too much fuss. I'd like us to start with Morgan and try getting in behind them quickly.

Still think Sporting are the most accomplished youth side I've seen so far, though.
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« Reply #37226 on: February 8, 2012, 07:53:53 pm »
I'd agree from the little bit I saw. The Ajax boys, especially, were so comfortable with the ball. Some of the first-time control of awkward passes was superb. The two centre-backs were very quick to break from defence into any gaps that were offered too. I imagine they'll have a lot of the ball at Anfield.

I was really impressed with their left back mate. Thought he looked super comfortable on the ball, and defending.


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But will they be able to cope with Raheem?

... But on the otherside I thought their right back was got at a few times tonight, and whilst the Barcelona players were - as you'd expect - extremely comfortable in possession, if it's the same guy playing right back at Anfield I will be backing Sterling. ... But then I would be against any youth team right back.

Both Barcelona and Ajax looked ahead of us to me in the same way that Sporting did. It's the point Maldini and BigBear have made - their weakest players all looked more comfortable and more tactically aware than our weakest players do. All 3 teams lacked a player that you'd be happy to see have a lot of the ball at some points in the match, and at others you'd go pressurising heavily to force the inevitable mistake. We've got one or two of them.

Like I said, whatever the result of this competition, we don't have the best academy in Europe (I actually think we've been massively underwhelming so far and haven't yet done ourselves real justice). What the next game or possibly two may show us is that we've got one or two who are amongst the very best prospects in Europe. We know a couple of them are at domestic level, but there's two who've played most games so far who I think might end up showing that they're as good as you can find in European youth football.

And that'd be nice.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37227 on: February 8, 2012, 08:38:34 pm »
As far as I know a couple of that Ajax team have played first team football. I think the striker Klaasen has even played in the CL for them this season.

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« Reply #37228 on: February 8, 2012, 08:55:19 pm »
As far as I know a couple of that Ajax team have played first team football. I think the striker Klaasen has even played in the CL for them this season.

He did. And Ligeon is the other player who played first team for Ajax. But that's only because pretty much every player in their team is injured.
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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37229 on: February 8, 2012, 09:06:52 pm »
Also what game did Ojo play? He mentions that he has been training with Dalglish, is this with the First Team or with the Reserves/U18s?

It was against Rochdale I think, was more then likely a friendly. The U18s have organised a few this season, tend to call up a few of the U16s to participate in them.

As for the training it was at the academy, a few U16s mentioned it so it was no special treatment. Just Kenny fancying a kickabout.

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« Reply #37230 on: February 8, 2012, 09:08:31 pm »
He did. And Ligeon is the other player who played first team for Ajax. But that's only because pretty much every player in their team is injured.

Ah okay, would I be right in saying Mats Rits has played for them too?

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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37231 on: February 8, 2012, 10:14:48 pm »
It was against Rochdale I think, was more then likely a friendly. The U18s have organised a few this season, tend to call up a few of the U16s to participate in them.

As for the training it was at the academy, a few U16s mentioned it so it was no special treatment. Just Kenny fancying a kickabout.

It's still nice of Kenny though, kids must have been well chuffed, I would have been for sure!

We know a couple of them are at domestic level, but there's two who've played most games so far who I think might end up showing that they're as good as you can find in European youth football.

And that'd be nice.

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« Reply #37232 on: February 8, 2012, 10:19:00 pm »
you can't say that and not name them? ;)

Wisdom and Sterling at a guess.

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« Reply #37233 on: February 8, 2012, 10:19:03 pm »
Ah okay, would I be right in saying Mats Rits has played for them too?

No, he's yet to make his debut. This Ajax side has beaten their Barcelona counterparts before in another tournament.

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« Reply #37234 on: February 8, 2012, 10:22:56 pm »
you can't say that and not name them? ;)

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« Reply #37235 on: February 8, 2012, 10:27:39 pm »
No, he's yet to make his debut. This Ajax side has beaten their Barcelona counterparts before in another tournament.

Ah okay thanks. Looks like a very tough test for our lads. Suppose this is what we signed up to this for though, should be a great contest.

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« Reply #37236 on: February 9, 2012, 03:52:16 am »
Shelvey and Robinson should both play in the semi vs Ajax, they'll help beef up the side.

Can Kelly play in this?  I think each team are allowed three players under the age of 23 aren't they?  If so I'd have him alongside Wisdom at centre back.

Why are we so reluctant to only play one striker upfront in this team?  It seems to be either Ngoo or Morgan.  I think we need both as Ngoo is important to hold up the ball and Morgan is needed because he is the finisher.  I'd like to see 4-4-2 used.  As Suso / Adorjan don't get enough goes to have a free role IMO or our team don't as a whole.   But our weak link is the keeper and has been through out the whole competition.

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« Reply #37237 on: February 9, 2012, 05:01:49 am »
Shelvey and Robinson should both play in the semi vs Ajax, they'll help beef up the side.

Can Kelly play in this?  I think each team are allowed three players under the age of 23 aren't they?  If so I'd have him alongside Wisdom at centre back.

Why are we so reluctant to only play one striker upfront in this team?  It seems to be either Ngoo or Morgan.  I think we need both as Ngoo is important to hold up the ball and Morgan is needed because he is the finisher.  I'd like to see 4-4-2 used.  As Suso / Adorjan don't get enough goes to have a free role IMO or our team don't as a whole.   But our weak link is the keeper and has been through out the whole competition.

Nah don't think it's 23. From memory it's three players that turned 19 before or on January 1st this year. My understanding is Flanagan who was born January 1st is therefore considered one of these over aged kids along with N'goo and I think Shelvey. You can also only have two of the on the field at once.
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« Reply #37238 on: February 9, 2012, 05:06:01 am »
Nah don't think it's 23. From memory it's three players that turned 19 before or on January 1st this year. My understanding is Flanagan who was born January 1st is therefore considered one of these over aged kids along with N'goo and I think Shelvey. You can also only have two of the on the field at once.

OK fair enough.

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Re: So what are these Youth/Reserve Lads like?
« Reply #37239 on: February 9, 2012, 06:18:50 am »
Nah don't think it's 23. From memory it's three players that turned 19 before or on January 1st this year. My understanding is Flanagan who was born January 1st is therefore considered one of these over aged kids along with N'goo and I think Shelvey. You can also only have two of the on the field at once.
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