Topic: The Horse Racing thread

[Gerry Attrick]

Think the 2000 will prove a vintage renewal but the 1000 will prove to be garbage in my opinion. Something has to win them though.

[duvva 💅]

Yep looks that way Gerry.

The first two in the 2000 especially look like they’re good horses any year.

Think the French horse will win races, just went too early today. Also Tamfana looks good in terms of this years classic fillies think she’s got a decent chance in the French Oaks, but overall no superstar on the fillies side

[duvva 💅]

This years probable Derby winner broke down moments after crossing the line at Chester today. Hidden Law looked an absolute monster they way he motored home. Such a shame

[Crouch Potato]

Impossible to imagine the emotions that the connections of the horse must have gone through, as the horse came down the home straight, only for the horror after the line.

[smicer07]

Last two races at Chester won by rank outsiders. 22/1 and 18/1. Wasn't on either.

[duvva 💅]

Been looking at possible Derby and Oaks horses this afternoon.

French Guineas won by 22/1 and 33/1 shots suggests there wasn’t anything special in them.

Like the look of Ezeliya for Dermot Weld in the Oaks, but not sure which one they will go for yet. Tamfana looks like she’s going for the French version.

Friendly Soul won nicely at Newmarket and goes again on Weds at York, May end up short price fav if she wins well.

The Lingfield trials rarely through up the winner but Ambiente Friendly won well and is still a decent price, wasn’t overly impressed with the Derrinstown winner.

Arabian Crown ran a nice trial at Sandown, but Godolphin also have Ancient Wisdom in the Dante on Thursday. I’m considering taking the 12/1 now and hoping he wins nicely. Be interesting to see which way Buick goes if he does win well.

And there’s still City of Troy if O’Brien can work his magic again like last year

Anyone got anything they strongly fancy?

[Gerry Attrick]

I love Ancient Wisdom as you know but I don’t like him for the Derby. He’s a Dubawi and the vast majority just don’t do it over 1m 4. In fact I could be wrong but despite being a super sire I don’t think he’s ever had a Derby winner.

[duvva 💅]

I think that’s right and I do share your concern about Dubawi as a Derby sire. Think Postponed might be his best over 1m4 (won the Coronation Cup) so he can get classy horses to win at Epsom at that distance, but not usually at 3!

[Gerry Attrick]

Postponed and Ghayyaith are his best at the trip. He’s probably got the best hand he’s had so far in Arabian Crown and Ancient Wisdom, relative to the other runners. O’Brien doesn’t seem to have any really special 3 year olds this year.

[duvva 💅]

I’d forgotten about Ghayyaith, thought he was better over 10f mind. Although also won the Coronation Cup when it was run at Newmarket during Covid.

Out of this years two Ancient Wisdom seems the more stoutly bred and could have the better chance. Such a shame about Hidden Law as he looked a monster winning last week and was out of a Galileo mare.

Any thoughts on Ezeliya?

[Gerry Attrick]

Ezeliya looks nice. If she was trained by somebody else I’d be mad keen but Weld just never seems in good form these days. Horses can still win but I wonder if the game has passed him by a bit and the top class ones are just good enough to overcome it, or is the rest of his stable so bad they can barely get a winner?

Ylang Ylang is way too short, Rubies Are Red hasn’t won a race yet, Tamfana will probably go to France like you say so I suspect if Ezeliya ends up in Epsom she’ll be half the price she is now. I’d be keen enough on Forest Fairy at 14/1. I think she was value for a bit more at Chester.

[duvva 💅]

I know what you mean about Weld he seems to have one or two good ones and nothing else. Had Tahirya and Tarnawa in the last few years, hoping Ezeliya might be another out of the top drawer.

Will have to watch Forest Fairy again. Beckett has had some good middle distance fillies

[Crouch Potato]

Dermot Weld used to be such a big trainer. Not to Aiden O'Brien sort of levels but in recent years too many owners seem to have focused on the O'Briens etc.