Author Topic: Danny Ings (Read 342420 times)

Spanish Al · « **Reply #1160 on:** September 26, 2016, 08:09:04 pm »

Quote from: Dpt1983 on September 26, 2016, 07:49:32 pm

Hardly abusing is it! And which current player?

Quote from: Dpt1983 on September 26, 2016, 04:14:45 pm

No I can't stand skrtyl and I don't care how long he played for us!

Quote from: Dpt1983 on September 26, 2016, 07:52:03 pm

Haha people need to calm down! It's an opinion, which I thought I was allowed on here. I didn't realise I had to follow everyone else's opinion.

There's a way to put it across. You're being disrespectful. And until you put it across properly people won't take you seriously.

Nessy76 · « **Reply #1161 on:** September 26, 2016, 09:50:01 pm »

Quote from: Spanish Al on September 26, 2016, 08:09:04 pm

There's a way to put it across. You're being disrespectful. And until you put it across properly people won't take you seriously.

Don't think he's bothered about being taken seriously, seems a happy go lucky sort.

John C · « **Reply #1162 on:** September 26, 2016, 10:40:45 pm »

Quote from: Spanish Al on September 26, 2016, 08:09:04 pm

There's a way to put it across. You're being disrespectful. And until you put it across properly people won't take you seriously.

He can't put it across Al, he's been departmentalised.

mrantarctica · « **Reply #1163 on:** September 27, 2016, 01:04:31 am »

Some people always spoiling for a fight!

Everywhere he's gone, Ings has been a 1 in 3 striker. I think he's the kind of player that will actually play quite well under Klopp because he's a generalist. Klopp likes well rounded, athletic players who are technically very good. Specialists don't seem to particularly thrive in our set up, while the generalists are prospering (Hendo, Lallana, Milner, Firmino, Coutinho, Lovren).

When he is fully fit and fighting hard for a place, we will be in a better position to judge his value. I suspect that he's probably still half a season away from that given that neither Origi or Sturridge are getting regular starts either, and our current front 3 of Coutinho/Firmino/Mane are all performing very well.

Spanish Al · « **Reply #1164 on:** September 27, 2016, 09:29:31 am »

Quote from: John C on September 26, 2016, 10:40:45 pm

He can't put it across Al, he's been departmentalised.

Had your work cut out with a lot of these new members recently you mods! Shut the doors!

LallanaInPyjamas · « **Reply #1165 on:** September 27, 2016, 10:55:22 am »

This 'one in three' thing is misleading; I might be wrong but I don't think he was even close to starting every week for Burnley until Charlie Austin got sold in the summer of 2013. Judging his record too closely before then, when he wasn't even 21, feels somewhat harsh. Even when he was playing I'd wager he'd have spent a fair bit of time out wide or behind Austin.

Once he earned 'main man' status he was comfortably 1 in 2 and the best striker in the Championship by a distance. 1 in 3 in the Prem, fair enough, but in a desperately mediocre Burnley side.

Put him alongside Sturridge or Firmino every week rather than Ashley Barnes and he'd easily do better than that even if he isn't what I'd describe as a 'natural' goalscorer (he misses very easy chances).

Ken-Obi · « **Reply #1166 on:** September 27, 2016, 01:04:26 pm »

Dings is not an elite, world class striker.

And he's not as mediocre as many seem to paint him as.

Phil M · « **Reply #1167 on:** September 27, 2016, 01:36:20 pm »

He's definitely one of the recently banned wums who has signed up on a new account.

Qston · « **Reply #1168 on:** September 27, 2016, 01:42:21 pm »

Quote from: Sheev-Palpatine on September 27, 2016, 01:04:26 pm

Dings is not an elite, world class striker.

And he's not as mediocre as many seem to paint him as.

You see the thing is I genuinely don`t know. Until you see a young player play regularly it is very hard to gauge. What is nice to know is that we have a squad that is rich in talent up front and if there injuries, which inevitably there will be, there will be a chance to see him play in a few league games again and assess how much the injury has affected him. I would like to see him play in some of the cup games but with Origi and Sturridge not getting regular starts in the league it is going to be difficult. What we saw glimpses of last season were very pleasing and I agree with others that he probably is a player that Klopp thinks would fit into his system. The lad needs a chance at some point. The question is, when with the squad we have got.

Louis Bimpson · « **Reply #1169 on:** September 27, 2016, 11:55:10 pm »

In all likelihood we won't have to wait that long, if either Sturridge or origi pick up a knock he becomes our number two (aside from games where Klopp goes with firmino as false 9) and will get minutes. Agree with earlier posts on him being well rounded in terms of skill set so optimistic he'll fit in well and prove valuable, not to mention benefit & develop from having better players around him ...

ZeusMetallica · « **Reply #1170 on:** October 1, 2016, 04:17:08 pm »

Sadly not in the matchday squad again. I don't believe Klopp turned a £20 million bid down but I can see him going on loan in January if we don't face any major setbacks upfront in the injury department. He needs minutes, and I don't think we can give him any at the moment as Dan and Origi are also desperate for playing time.

ThePeetmix · « **Reply #1171 on:** October 1, 2016, 04:26:17 pm »

Quote from: ZeusMetallica on October 1, 2016, 04:17:08 pm

Sadly not in the matchday squad again. I don't believe Klopp turned a £20 million bid down but I can see him going on loan in January if we don't face any major setbacks upfront in the injury department. He needs minutes, and I don't think we can give him any at the moment as Dan and Origi are also desperate for playing time.

He'll keep getting mimutes in the u23s to stay match fit.

Agree, if our injury is still good come Jan, the a loan would be decent for him.

He'll be needed next season mind you.

John C · « **Reply #1172 on:** October 1, 2016, 10:32:06 pm »

It's deffo only me, but winning or losing this season in most games at perhaps the 70 minute mark I've wanted Ings to be available from the bench. The lad will score, he's a typical Klopp energetic player, he'll close and do everything needed, as I say whether we're winning or losing, he just seems the ideal late solution whatever the score.

campioni · « **Reply #1173 on:** October 1, 2016, 10:48:14 pm »

Quote from: John C on October 1, 2016, 10:32:06 pm

It's deffo only me, but winning or losing this season in most games at perhaps the 70 minute mark I've wanted Ings to be available from the bench. The lad will score, he's a typical Klopp energetic player, he'll close and do everything needed, as I say whether we're winning or losing, he just seems the ideal late solution whatever the score.

You're not alone mate, I'm of the same opinion. I thought he would've been the better option to come on at Chelsea instead of Origi. And today the same.

The type of player who will annoy the shit out of tired defenders, particularly with fresh legs from the bench.

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #1174 on:** October 1, 2016, 10:49:43 pm »

Is he playing for the U23 tomorrow?

Cpt_Reina · « **Reply #1175 on:** October 1, 2016, 10:51:27 pm »

Fuckig hell, mad that people are still trying to convince themselves this lad will play anything other than the odd cup game for us.

Origi isn't even getting more than a cameo right now never mind Ings.

Super MAC · « **Reply #1176 on:** October 1, 2016, 10:53:10 pm »

Quote from: ZeusMetallica on October 1, 2016, 04:17:08 pm

Sadly not in the matchday squad again. I don't believe Klopp turned a £20 million bid down but I can see him going on loan in January if we don't face any major setbacks upfront in the injury department. He needs minutes, and I don't think we can give him any at the moment as Dan and Origi are also desperate for playing time.

If we are in the running for top 4 or better come January, there is absolutely no chance whatsoever of him going on loan anywhere as that would be rank stupidity.

John C · « **Reply #1177 on:** October 1, 2016, 11:28:43 pm »

Quote from: campioni on October 1, 2016, 10:48:14 pm

You're not alone mate, I'm of the same opinion. I thought he would've been the better option to come on at Chelsea instead of Origi. And today the same.

The type of player who will annoy the shit out of tired defenders, particularly with fresh legs from the bench.

Yep, and of course we mustn't be impatient, even though there are far fewer games it's still going to be a long season and I'm confident Ings will have his day.

King Klopp. · « **Reply #1178 on:** October 1, 2016, 11:33:45 pm »

Quote from: campioni on October 1, 2016, 10:48:14 pm

You're not alone mate, I'm of the same opinion. I thought he would've been the better option to come on at Chelsea instead of Origi. And today the same.

The type of player who will annoy the shit out of tired defenders, particularly with fresh legs from the bench.

Origi has thrown lads like Hummels around like rag dolls. Why on earth would Ings get games ahead of him?

John C · « **Reply #1179 on:** October 1, 2016, 11:57:09 pm »

Quote from: King Klopp. on October 1, 2016, 11:33:45 pm

Origi has thrown lads like Hummels around like rag dolls. Why on earth would Ings get games ahead of him?

I've just had a lengthy debate with my lad about this. Origi's stint of form last season needs to be replicated this season for him to force a place up front. But Origi and Danny Ings are far, far different players in terms of energy, endeavour and positional play. I'm not going to be drawn in to a player differential discussion in the Ings thread except to repeat he will be an asset for us this season.

King Klopp. · « **Reply #1180 on:** October 2, 2016, 12:03:58 am »

Quote from: John C on October 1, 2016, 11:57:09 pm

I've just had a lengthy debate with my lad about this. Origi's stint of form last season needs to be replicated this season for him to force a place up front. But Origi and Danny Ings are far, far different players in terms of energy, endeavour and positional play. I'm not going to be drawn in to a player differential discussion in the Ings thread except to repeat he will be an asset for us this season.

As things stand Origi has 2 goals from 2 starts this season. Ings runs round loads. Origi is absolute quality IMO.

People quite like Ings because he tries hard. But at the end of the day do you honestly think he could destroy players like Hummels the way Origi did?

Origi has it all. To suggest as you seem to be doing that he lacks energy or endeavor is a long way wide of the mark IMO.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #1181 on:** October 2, 2016, 12:24:27 am »

I'm hoping he makes the bench, and get's a chance to come on like Divock

John C · « **Reply #1182 on:** October 2, 2016, 12:32:09 am »

Quote from: King Klopp. on October 2, 2016, 12:03:58 am

As things stand Origi has 2 goals from 2 starts this season. Ings runs round loads. Origi is absolute quality IMO.

People quite like Ings because he tries hard. But at the end of the day do you honestly think he could destroy players like Hummels the way Origi did?

Origi has it all. To suggest as you seem to be doing that he lacks energy or endeavor is a long way wide of the mark IMO.

Ings can fill Lallana's place, also Strurrigde and Origi's. I'm not saying he's better than Origi was last year for a few months, I'm just saying he has a role in the squad and we'll soon see

harryc · « **Reply #1183 on:** October 2, 2016, 12:57:21 am »

Why are people so Desperate to see Ings play?

John C · « **Reply #1184 on:** October 2, 2016, 01:21:58 am »

Quote from: harryc on October 2, 2016, 12:57:21 am

Why are people so Desperate to see Ings play?

Just cleaned some real crap out of this thread, sorry everyone.
To answer this question, again you miss the context mate, and fuck me if I know better than Jurgen, people are just thinking Ings would be good off the bench, it's not desperation, its about an equivalent option

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Caligula? · « **Reply #1185 on:** October 2, 2016, 01:45:50 am »

Quote from: John C on October 2, 2016, 01:21:58 am

Just cleaned some real crap out of this thread, sorry everyone.
To answer this question, again you miss the context mate, and fuck me if I know better than Jurgen, people are just thinking Ings would be good off the bench, it's not desperation, its about an equivalent option .

I think he would be as well but the problem is that I - like many others - think that he won't get anywhere near the pitch unless we have some sort of an injury crisis. At the moment our best team going forward probably consists of Firmino, Mane, Coutinho, and Lallana with Sturridge coming on as a sub (who would have thought that a year ago?). If we are to play with a recognized striker, Sturridge is first choice with Origi being the impact player. Ings is more like 4th choice at the moment, and it's hard to argue with that really.

ThePeetmix · « **Reply #1186 on:** October 2, 2016, 02:33:59 am »

Quote from: King Klopp. on October 2, 2016, 12:03:58 am

As things stand Origi has 2 goals from 2 starts this season. Ings runs round loads. Origi is absolute quality IMO.

People quite like Ings because he tries hard. But at the end of the day do you honestly think he could destroy players like Hummels the way Origi did?

Origi has it all. To suggest as you seem to be doing that he lacks energy or endeavor is a long way wide of the mark IMO.

If you think Ings is just a player who runs round loads, then you know nothing frankly. The guy is a great finisher and has a lovely first touch. There is a reason he's scored plenty of goals so far in his career.

Bangin Them In · « **Reply #1187 on:** October 2, 2016, 07:02:38 pm »

Hat Trick for the U23s today

Doing all that he can really

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #1188 on:** October 2, 2016, 07:06:41 pm »

He'll get his reward soon enough. If Klopp didn't rate him, he would have sold him and we had quite a bid for him

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #1189 on:** October 2, 2016, 07:42:09 pm »

Quote from: King Klopp. on October 2, 2016, 12:03:58 am

As things stand Origi has 2 goals from 2 starts this season. Ings runs round loads. Origi is absolute quality IMO.

People quite like Ings because he tries hard. But at the end of the day do you honestly think he could destroy players like Hummels the way Origi did?

Origi has it all. To suggest as you seem to be doing that he lacks energy or endeavor is a long way wide of the mark IMO.

Origi needs to learn some game management, for instance yesterday he decided to shoot rather than kill time taking the ball into the corner. He's young and should learn but nowhere near the finished article yet.