Author Topic: General Running Thread (Read 810711 times)

"Nookie". · « **Reply #440 on:** March 25, 2009, 08:43:13 pm »

Quote from: Martyn. on March 25, 2009, 07:48:17 pm

I've got these for running headphones...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-PMX70-Sportline-Neckband-Headphones/dp/B000FJD5IA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1238010285&sr=8-2

They are pretty good, and a lot better than using iPod earphones whilst running I found.

Also found these, and they look like the 'version up' for the same price...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-502542-PMX-Sport-Headphones/dp/B001GT185K/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1238010285&sr=8-7

Hope that helps the people who have been wondering about running headphones in this thread

Just seen both of these, thinking about the second pair.

theCanadian · « **Reply #441 on:** March 29, 2009, 12:24:08 pm »

Sitting in my hotel room in Hamilton, Ontario. 7:23am.

Race starts at 9:30am. Didn't sleep properly at all. This is my first distance above 21k (I've done 2 of those).

Have been training in the snow outside all winter.

This race is called Around the Bay, it's 30km, and it's the oldest road road race in North America (older than the Boston Marathon).

It's raining outside and is forecast to rain, including heavy rain at times, during the WHOLE FUCKING RACE.

FML.

theCanadian · « **Reply #442 on:** March 29, 2009, 11:41:03 pm »

Done.

3:00:15

Sprinted over the finish line Usain Bolt.

neilem · « **Reply #443 on:** April 3, 2009, 09:16:04 am »

Belfast Marathon coming up, anyone running in it?

With no recent long distance training, should I do a half or full marathon? Keep in mind my fitness levels pretty good.

Momos_righteye · « **Reply #444 on:** April 3, 2009, 10:42:57 am »

Never saw this thread before, Did the liverpool half marathon last week and now starting to train for the Dublin Marathon in Oct.

Quote from: Chamby on March 24, 2009, 02:28:53 am

Goal is 2:30 for my first, should be interesting.

Holy $hit, that would be an impressive time

Quote from: neilem on April 3, 2009, 09:16:04 am

Belfast Marathon coming up, anyone running in it?

With no recent long distance training, should I do a half or full marathon? Keep in mind my fitness levels pretty good.

I think you should deffo get a half marathon in first, i've only started running recently enough and pacing yourself really helps a lot

neilem · « **Reply #445 on:** April 3, 2009, 10:55:13 am »

Quote from: Momos_righteye on April 3, 2009, 10:42:57 am

I think you should deffo get a half marathon in first, i've only started running recently enough and pacing yourself really helps a lot

Yea, think I will use that as a yard stick for next time. Gonna do 16.6miles (3 leg's in relay) since there is no half Marathon run for Belfast. The only thing I'm worried about is the fact people starting fresh in a new leg will have me trying to compete with them (subconsiously), so would make me run faster than I should.

Momos_righteye · « **Reply #446 on:** April 3, 2009, 11:17:42 am »

Quote from: neilem on April 3, 2009, 10:55:13 am

Yea, think I will use that as a yard stick for next time. Gonna do 16.6miles (3 leg's in relay) since there is no half Marathon run for Belfast. The only thing I'm worried about is the fact people starting fresh in a new leg will have me trying to compete with them (subconsiously), so would make me run faster than I should.

Think thats why the training comes in great, I'm the same as yourself, seeing people that I think I should but going faster than and trying to keep up with them but it's all about pacing yourself. Get a route that you know the exact distance and time yourself, if your fit, 8 minute miles should be a decent starting point and build it from there. 16 miles is a decent run

Chamby · « **Reply #447 on:** April 4, 2009, 01:19:41 pm »

Quote from: Momos_righteye on April 3, 2009, 10:42:57 am

Never saw this thread before, Did the liverpool half marathon last week and now starting to train for the Dublin Marathon in Oct.

Holy $hit, that would be an impressive time

Yea I would be pretty shocked and happy if I hit it, but I think I am capable. I have done long run of 19-20 miles at that pace. So who knows, I just have to keep my training up after I graduate and I think I will have a good shot.

simonchamp · « **Reply #448 on:** April 6, 2009, 04:59:32 pm »

Quote from: Mr Boat on March 18, 2009, 10:34:24 pm

You must have been up there in the top few with that time for 10km I'm sure. That should give you a sub 71 for the 1/2mara shouldn't it?

Great running

How has the training been Mr Boat? I haven't done as much as I had hoped over the past few weeks. Did my third, and last, 20 mile long run yesterday in 2:45. I think I am looking at a 3:30, are you still aiming for sub 3:15?

Mr Boat · « **Reply #449 on:** April 6, 2009, 05:33:52 pm »

Quote from: simonchamp on April 6, 2009, 04:59:32 pm

How has the training been Mr Boat? I haven't done as much as I had hoped over the past few weeks. Did my third, and last, 20 mile long run yesterday in 2:45. I think I am looking at a 3:30, are you still aiming for sub 3:15?

Hi there, I also did my last 20 miler yesterday (2:24) a bit quicker than I should have; including weaving around the throngs of people that the sun brought out on Bournemouth seafront.

Still aiming for sub 3:15 but not sure of my exact pace to run at. Not sure whether to go off at sub 7s and hang on or try for a negative split. I could do with the same club member I ran my last race with to pace me; problem is he's running in Madrid on that day!

Good luck anyway.

Chamby · « **Reply #450 on:** April 6, 2009, 05:43:27 pm »

Just wondering, I know it is pretty difficult to get into the London Marathon, but if you run a certain time before hand would they put you in automatically ?

I know they do this for New York, atleast they did for some of my teammates.

lfcdave · « **Reply #451 on:** April 7, 2009, 02:31:26 pm »

Qualifying criteria for this years race.

Championship Start

The championship qualifying standards for a full marathon are sub 2:45 for men and sub 3:15 for women, for a half marathon the qualifying standards are sub 1:15 for men and sub 1:30 for women. The qualifying time must have been achieved since 1st January 2007.

Good For Age Start

MEN 18 - 40 2:45:00-3:00:00 WOMEN 18 - 49 3:15:00 -3:45:00
MEN 41 - 59 sub 3:15:00 WOMEN 50 - 54 sub 4:00:00
MEN 60 - 64 sub 3:30:00 WOMEN 55 - 59 sub 4:15:00
MEN 65 - 69 sub 4:00:00 WOMEN 60 - 64 sub 4:30:00
MEN 70+ sub 5:00:00 WOMEN 65 - 69 sub 5:30:00
WOMEN 70+ sub 6:30:00

must have been achieved in 2007 or 2008

Mr Boat · « **Reply #452 on:** April 7, 2009, 04:32:13 pm »

lfcdave: how's it going for you now? Are you back on track since your last post?

lfcdave · « **Reply #453 on:** April 7, 2009, 04:42:17 pm »

Quote from: Mr Boat on April 7, 2009, 04:32:13 pm

lfcdave: how's it going for you now? Are you back on track since your last post?

Im afraid not. Both physio and coach are sure its going to settle but im not convinced. Ive kept my training up and battled through it but im running in pain all the time which is not very pleasant. I will probably make a decision by the weekend. One thing is for sure I cant stand on the start line unless im completly pain free as i respect the distance far too much and seen plenty of people break down during previous marathons and its not a good place to be.

Your training appears to be going well.

Mr Boat · « **Reply #454 on:** April 7, 2009, 05:19:36 pm »

Quote from: lfcdave on April 7, 2009, 04:42:17 pm

Im afraid not. Both physio and coach are sure its going to settle but im not convinced. Ive kept my training up and battled through it but im running in pain all the time which is not very pleasant. I will probably make a decision by the weekend. One thing is for sure I cant stand on the start line unless im completly pain free as i respect the distance far too much and seen plenty of people break down during previous marathons and its not a good place to be.

Your training appears to be going well.

That's not good news mate, especially as you were going so well and it's getting close now; hope your coach is right.

First time for me so I'll be interested to see how the taper feels. I'm down from 50 last week to 43 this, followed by 32 then 22 for race week; hopefully be full of energy come the day. Just a bit worried about getting the diet (carb loading right).

Chamby · « **Reply #455 on:** April 8, 2009, 03:30:01 am »

Quote from: lfcdave on April 7, 2009, 04:42:17 pm

Im afraid not. Both physio and coach are sure its going to settle but im not convinced. Ive kept my training up and battled through it but im running in pain all the time which is not very pleasant. I will probably make a decision by the weekend. One thing is for sure I cant stand on the start line unless im completly pain free as i respect the distance far too much and seen plenty of people break down during previous marathons and its not a good place to be.

Your training appears to be going well.

I've heard of, and seen teammates using this pain reliever called DMSO, apparently its some pretty serious stuff, but works wonders. Obviously its not a miracle healer, but it apparently works very well as a pain reliever, if you are really desperate to run this race. Thought I would throw that out there, though personally I am not a big fan of stuff like that.

simonchamp · « **Reply #456 on:** April 17, 2009, 03:08:07 pm »

Quote from: Mr Boat on April 6, 2009, 05:33:52 pm

Hi there, I also did my last 20 miler yesterday (2:24) a bit quicker than I should have; including weaving around the throngs of people that the sun brought out on Bournemouth seafront.

Still aiming for sub 3:15 but not sure of my exact pace to run at. Not sure whether to go off at sub 7s and hang on or try for a negative split. I could do with the same club member I ran my last race with to pace me; problem is he's running in Madrid on that day!

Good luck anyway.

Have you decided how you are going to approach it? This is my first (and last?) marathon but I would say that a negative split would be very ambitious. However, I think you will have to factor in that the first few miles will be very congested and therefore slow so that might affect things a bit.

I think I will aim to go off at 7min/mile pace and see how it goes. I reckon I will be ok at that pace to 16-18 and the last 8-10 will be interesting.

What training are tapering with? I was going to do a slow 13 tomorrow, then 4 on Monday, 3 Tues and 2 on Thursday. I am worried the 13 might be too much but I feel I need it as I did a 10mile race last weekend and could do with a bit more time on my feet.

Pheeny · « **Reply #457 on:** April 17, 2009, 11:58:42 pm »

I miss my running...

http://users.skynet.be/a.phoenix/running.htm

Mr Boat · « **Reply #458 on:** April 18, 2009, 12:14:26 am »

Simonchamp: I think I'll start at whatever the traffic dictates and then aim as near to 7s as I feel comfortable with. My early target was to be 3hrs but now it's sub 3:15 I've got much more room for manouvre, pace wise; if I can run 7.06s until 20miles that should give me about 53 minutes to run the last 6.2miles, which is about 8.26s I think.

I'm doing nothing tomorrow and 12 miles on Sunday; 6 Monday; 7 Wednesday; 5 Friday; 4 Saturday.

13 should be OK on Sunday at a steady pace.

This is all a steep learning curve for me; I'm trying to get to grips with this carb loading thingy that everyones talking about on Runners World forums. Check this out; it's quite interesting, I may give it a try. http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0974.htm

Mr Boat · « **Reply #459 on:** April 18, 2009, 12:19:20 am »

Quote from: Pheeny on April 17, 2009, 11:58:42 pm

I miss my running...

http://users.skynet.be/a.phoenix/running.htm

They're great pictures; you look to be finishing very strongly. Did you start cycling when you stopped running or was the running just supplementing the cycling?

lordcisse · « **Reply #460 on:** April 18, 2009, 12:13:02 pm »

I'm doin the great north run in september. I've never done a half marathon before n i didnt know what to put for me estimated time. You all seem to kno wot your an about, what should i have put for me first one? ive never ran more than 10k and that was yonks ago, i think my time was 45 mins ish

Mr Boat · « **Reply #461 on:** April 18, 2009, 01:05:18 pm »

Quote from: lordcisse on April 18, 2009, 12:13:02 pm

I'm doin the great north run in september. I've never done a half marathon before n i didnt know what to put for me estimated time. You all seem to kno wot your an about, what should i have put for me first one? ive never ran more than 10k and that was yonks ago, i think my time was 45 mins ish

Hi,
It depends on how much time you're going to put in between now and September. You could do with a couple of 10k races this spring/summer so that you know where you are with your pace/times. I see from your profile you're only 24; I would think if you can get your 10k time just below 40mins you could get under 1:30 for the half. I should get out there on a regular basis if I were you though.

Good luck.

lordcisse · « **Reply #462 on:** April 18, 2009, 01:14:59 pm »

cheers mate, I think ill do that blackpool one presumin i cant get a west ham away ticket and the one in the tunnel. Ive been doin about 5 miles twice week but i havnt bothered timin it. At first just finishin it without medical assistance would have done but now ive decided i dont want like old ladys runnin past me

thanks for the help

Mr Boat · « **Reply #463 on:** April 18, 2009, 01:38:42 pm »

Quote from: lordcisse on April 18, 2009, 01:14:59 pm

cheers mate, I think ill do that blackpool one presumin i cant get a west ham away ticket and the one in the tunnel. Ive been doin about 5 miles twice week but i havnt bothered timin it. At first just finishin it without medical assistance would have done but now ive decided i dont want like old ladys runnin past me
thanks for the help

Before I did my first one last year I also got advised to run the distance a couple of times as part of your training.

Elli · « **Reply #464 on:** April 18, 2009, 02:31:51 pm »

Quote from: Mr Boat on April 18, 2009, 01:05:18 pm

Hi,
It depends on how much time you're going to put in between now and September. You could do with a couple of 10k races this spring/summer so that you know where you are with your pace/times. I see from your profile you're only 24; I would think if you can get your 10k time just below 40mins you could get under 1:30 for the half. I should get out there on a regular basis if I were you though.

Good luck.

And if you can't hit that pace, don't worry. If someone had told me I should get round in 90 mins I'd have been devastated with my time - as it was I was quite proud of it.

Enjoy your training, and take it steady. If you get injured and have to pull out I'll be cross cos I didn't get a place this year

Mr Boat · « **Reply #465 on:** April 18, 2009, 02:39:37 pm »

Quote from: Elli on April 18, 2009, 02:31:51 pm

And if you can't hit that pace, don't worry. If someone had told me I should get round in 90 mins I'd have been devastated with my time - as it was I was quite proud of it.

Enjoy your training, and take it steady. If you get injured and have to pull out I'll be cross cos I didn't get a place this year

You're right Elli: the only reason I said 90mins was because he said he'd ran 45ish for a 10k before. 2years ago I ran my first 10k @ 44min; the following year I got it down to just under 40mins and I managed a sub 90 for my first 1/2 marathon. He's a lot younger than me so with a bit of effort he could manage sub 90.

Again though; it doesn't matter how long it takes, you'll feel much better for doing it than not

Chamby · « **Reply #466 on:** April 18, 2009, 03:40:35 pm »

Ran a 3k Steeplechase for the first time in my life yesterday, what an event, amazing difficult.

Chamby · « **Reply #467 on:** April 20, 2009, 09:10:12 pm »

Anyone watch the Boston Marathon today?

Great effort by Goucher and Hall to challenge the Africans

lfcdave · « **Reply #468 on:** April 21, 2009, 01:41:20 pm »

Well i am sending my form off back to the Flora London Marathon withdrawals address!!

15 weeks training and 15 weeks of not drinking alcohol to be struck down with running induced sciatica!!. I was really hoping it would clear in time but sadly i needed another week so its not something i can run through. Absolutly gutted to be honest

Got to give myself some time to get the injury sorted and get myself mentally over this setback.

simonchamp · « **Reply #469 on:** April 21, 2009, 01:44:56 pm »

Quote from: lfcdave on April 21, 2009, 01:41:20 pm

Well i am sending my form off back to the Flora London Marathon withdrawals address!!

15 weeks training and 15 weeks of not drinking alcohol to be struck down with running induced sciatica!!. I was really hoping it would clear in time but sadly i needed another week so its not something i can run through. Absolutly gutted to be honest

Got to give myself some time to get the injury sorted and get myself mentally over this setback.

So sorry to hear that mate, I really feel for you. I know it is no consolation but you will be there in spirit and 2010 will come around quickly.

On an aside, I am really sick of eating pasta and have only just started carb loading!

Take it easy and dont overdo it.

Ziltoid · « **Reply #470 on:** April 21, 2009, 01:49:15 pm »

Quote from: lfcdave on April 21, 2009, 01:41:20 pm

Well i am sending my form off back to the Flora London Marathon withdrawals address!!

15 weeks training and 15 weeks of not drinking alcohol to be struck down with running induced sciatica!!. I was really hoping it would clear in time but sadly i needed another week so its not something i can run through. Absolutly gutted to be honest

Got to give myself some time to get the injury sorted and get myself mentally over this setback.

Sorry to hear that Dave, i had to do the same back in 2000. Crack open a bottle of red tonight and watch the match.

Mr Boat · « **Reply #471 on:** April 21, 2009, 02:05:52 pm »

lfcdave: that's got to be a shit decision to have to make mate. All the best for the summer; let's hope you're fit for a couple of quaility halfs in the next few months. I'd never heard of sciatica as a sports related problem until Sunday night in the pub when my mate, who's been out injured from playing football for ages has just been diagnosed with this same problem........sounds nasty.

I've just upped the carbs today; already had 2x 500mls PSP22 and bagels with scrambled eggs for breakfast. There's a few of us meeting up for a pasta meal in a restaurant on Wednesday night; it'll be strange going out to eat and not sinking a few beers and a bottle of wine. I stopped alcohol on Sunday.

simonchamp · « **Reply #472 on:** April 21, 2009, 02:15:40 pm »

Quote from: Mr Boat on April 21, 2009, 02:05:52 pm

lfcdave: that's got to be a shit decision to have to make mate. All the best for the summer; let's hope you're fit for a couple of quaility halfs in the next few months. I'd never heard of sciatica as a sports related problem until Sunday night in the pub when my mate, who's been out injured from playing football for ages has just been diagnosed with this same problem........sounds nasty.

I've just upped the carbs today; already had 2x 500mls PSP22 and bagels with scrambled eggs for breakfast. There's a few of us meeting up for a pasta meal in a restaurant on Wednesday night; it'll be strange going out to eat and not sinking a few beers and a bottle of wine. I stopped alcohol on Sunday.

MrBoat, do you use the Go Gels while running? I like PSP22 and also the Rego recovery drink, but although I use the Go Gels I am not 100% convinced they make much of difference...

Mr Boat · « **Reply #473 on:** April 21, 2009, 02:26:29 pm »

Quote from: simonchamp on April 21, 2009, 02:15:40 pm

MrBoat, do you use the Go Gels while running? I like PSP22 and also the Rego recovery drink, but although I use the Go Gels I am not 100% convinced they make much of difference...

I use Rego as well, just got delivery of bananna flavour; much better than the vanilla. I don't use the Go gels but I have used the SIS Smart 1 gels in training. Like you, I'm not entirely sure if they work; I don't usually try one until I've done about 8 miles and I've got some hills coming up on my long runs. I did have one incident with them aswell; I was about 4 miles from home after taking one and suddenly realised something was going on with my stomach........it didn't take long to get home I can tell you

.

I will use the Smart gel during FLM. I can just about squeeze 3 in my shorts back pocket and I'll carry one. I'll try to take them at 10, 15, 20 and save one incase I really need it during the last 6. I will be running on an empyish stomach as well with any luck.

simonchamp · « **Reply #474 on:** April 21, 2009, 02:32:06 pm »

Quote from: Mr Boat on April 21, 2009, 02:26:29 pm

I use Rego as well, just got delivery of bananna flavour; much better than the vanilla. I don't use the Go gels but I have used the SIS Smart 1 gels in training. Like you, I'm not entirely sure if they work; I don't usually try one until I've done about 8 miles and I've got some hills coming up on my long runs. I did have one incident with them aswell; I was about 4 miles from home after taking one and suddenly realised something was going on with my stomach........it didn't take long to get home I can tell you .

I will use the Smart gel during FLM. I can just about squeeze 3 in my shorts back pocket and I'll carry one. I'll try to take them at 10, 15, 20 and save one incase I really need it during the last 6. I will be running on an empyish stomach as well with any luck.

Cheers for that, I had not seen the Smart gels. I will pick a few up at the marathon Expo tomorrow and give them a go on the big day.

Hopefully the sun will disappear by Sunday!

Pheeny · « **Reply #475 on:** April 21, 2009, 04:41:48 pm »

Quote from: Mr Boat on April 18, 2009, 12:19:20 am

They're great pictures; you look to be finishing very strongly. Did you start cycling when you stopped running or was the running just supplementing the cycling?

took up cycling as its less strain on my back.

Chamby · « **Reply #476 on:** April 21, 2009, 11:41:20 pm »

Quote from: Mr Boat on April 21, 2009, 02:26:29 pm

I use Rego as well, just got delivery of bananna flavour; much better than the vanilla. I don't use the Go gels but I have used the SIS Smart 1 gels in training. Like you, I'm not entirely sure if they work; I don't usually try one until I've done about 8 miles and I've got some hills coming up on my long runs. I did have one incident with them aswell; I was about 4 miles from home after taking one and suddenly realised something was going on with my stomach........it didn't take long to get home I can tell you .

I will use the Smart gel during FLM. I can just about squeeze 3 in my shorts back pocket and I'll carry one. I'll try to take them at 10, 15, 20 and save one incase I really need it during the last 6. I will be running on an empyish stomach as well with any luck.

I use endurox as a recovery drink after certain runs, mainly my two workouts a week and the medium and long run every week. I never have and probably won't use those training gels, don't really see the purpose? Your body only begins to lack those sugars and what not after 20+ miles, and I never do a long run longer than 20-21 miles.

potatomato33 · « **Reply #477 on:** April 22, 2009, 10:43:25 pm »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1170253/The-painful-truth-trainers-Are-expensive-running-shoes-waste-money.html

What does everything think about this?

Mr Boat · « **Reply #478 on:** April 22, 2009, 11:41:28 pm »

Quote from: potatomato33 on April 22, 2009, 10:43:25 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1170253/The-painful-truth-trainers-Are-expensive-running-shoes-waste-money.html

What does everything think about this?

Very interesting. I have looked into running styles quite a bit over the last year due to a long spell with shinsplints. It does appear that heel striking causes a lot of problems. I have adjusted my running style slightly but I think it would take a lot of practise to strike with the forefoot consistently.

Ziltoid · « **Reply #479 on:** April 23, 2009, 08:15:57 am »

Interesting read. I was always told that you should your trainers after every 600miles, a bit expensive if you're knocking out 60 a week.

Never heard of these though!

http://www.outdoorkit.co.uk/product.php?product_id=2775&utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=froogle#