Topic: PL: Liverpool 0 v 1 Crystal Palace Eze 14’

[elsewhere]

Arsenal lose today and it’s back on, right? RIGHT?!

ON for CITY then

[Kashinoda]

Liverpool have generated 9.14xG over the last 3 games, scoring 2 goals in process while drawing once and losing twice.

[S]

Arsenal lose today and it’s back on, right? RIGHT?!

Who cares?

The results of both Arsenal and Man City have been irrelevant all season. We had to focus on the top four fight. We’re not safe on that front yet considering our form, but we should pick up enough points barring a total disaster.

[WorldChampions]

Arsenal lose today and it’s back on, right? RIGHT?!

Absolutely no chance of winning out. We fucked the two easiest games of the run in.

[rowan_d]

Would love to know why this season we've been so shit in the first minute of matches. Even when we have kick-off it feels like the opposition always has the first attack of note, or period of possession around our box.

[JackWard33]

We weren't unlucky. That is currently the level of the team in front of goal.

Christ
Time to log off for a bit

[OkieRedman]

Liverpool have generated 9.14xG over the last 3 games, scoring 2 goals in process while drawing once and losing twice.

One was pen the other was a corner.

[daniel.owen89]

Feel like this was more a few good blocks /saves combined with poor finishing that a bad performance that some are suggesting. I think the overall feeling of the title possible being over it affecting people's judgement of the performance.

This could quite easily have been 4-2 comfortable result

[Damian V]

Not good enough in both boxes, catches up to you.
There were times we peppered opposition's goalkeepers and had them under constant pressure instead of possession recycling between our CB's.

[PROPER crazyemlyn72]

3 bad matches in the last week. It's no longer a blip. Pity, all that hard work and the wheels come off at the end of the season.

[Bread]

Yeah City were always the big favourites.

Personally, I'd prefer City to win it over Arsenal. A City win would be a win for a vapid club devoid of any soul and it's easier to feel emotionally detached about a club like that, save for the despair I feel towards the governing bodies that they're happy to let this circus continue.

Whereas I'd feel actively envious of Arsenal winning the title; to do what we've been trying to do since 2018 and only achieved once, go toe-to-toe with financially juiced cheats and actually conquer them. Plus an Arsenal title win would require a full social media blackout, as their increasingly vexing fanbase will undoubtedly be loud and unbearable.

[Jshooters]

Look if Villa don’t shit the bed today and just roll over, they could do Arsenal. They’ve got good enough players to do it, they’re well positioned in their conference league game and Arsenal may need to play within themselves for that Bayern return next week. They do have momentum and belief, what we are currently missing.  We need a fillip, and right now I’m hanging on to any small hope. You never know

My feelings too.

Potentially 3 points off the top (only 2 if Arsenal lose today). Both teams can drop unexpected points and we’re creating enough chances to win games. We’re still in it

[killer-heels]

Feel like this was more a few good blocks /saves combined with poor finishing that a bad performance that some are suggesting. I think the overall feeling of the title possible being over it affecting people's judgement of the performance.

This could quite easily have been 4-2 comfortable result

It wad both. We were never really in control of any situation in the first half and second half it was all a bit frantic.

[JRed]

Gang of pricks wrecking Klopp’s last season.

[Gnurglan]

Arsenal lose today and it’s back on, right? RIGHT?!

Still in it on points, even if we are unlikely to finish top now. Both City and Arsenal will need to drop points in the remaining games for us to have a chance. And then it's the small matter of us needing to win our games.

[jillcwhomever]

Gang of pricks wrecking Klopp’s last season.

WTF? They're not doing it on purpose ffs.

[MosDefKop]

After a burst of bitter anger and total disbelief...

Strangely, I feel more relaxed footballwise now. We won't win the title now and we were not good enough. We have not beaten Manchester City, Gooners or ManUre in the league and we have failed to control so many matches.

Today was the first time I have thought we should have started Elliot.  Jones and Szobosozlai have been so poor in their combacks.
Pity Bradley came off as we needed his energy and Trent was not likely to raise the tempo or energy levels.
Most of all we just lacked brains as we have all season. It ain't a clever team for sure (MacAlister  and VVD notable exceptions) and also finishing.  A piority for next season will be to replace Salah and probably(?) Diaz with forwards with higher chance conversion rates.

I am pretty optimistic for next season.
This one. Write off.

[Hazell]

Sometimes I fucking hate football. This is one of those times.

Ha, me too.

[Fruity]

Okay. I saw an incredible good Gakpo who turned his form around and tried everything with dribbles and passes and refreshed our attack. 

I concur. I am not saying he is the future but he took plenty of abuse after the mancs cup final game (and probably rightly so) but has a least shown some attacking desire in the last couple of games unlike some other forwards. Deserves a bit of credit.

[darragh85]

Arsenal lose today and it’s back on, right? RIGHT?!

no city have it won which is the likely scenario anyway.

[GarciaAndNunezNunezNunez]

Objectively, there are too many average players in the team. Players like Gomez, Jones and Endo. It's showed the last month.

New players don't have the experience of being in this position and it has shown, Szoboslai and Nunez in particular.

Gakpo was very good when he came on. Elliott should have been on sooner.

The truth is that this Liverpool team are simply not crisp enough with the final pass and finish and we are way off the other 2 in that respect. Too many bobbly, bouncing passes and passes behind the player. I actually think the other two are rather boring to watch in their build up but their precision in the final third can't be denied.

[Butcher Knife Roberto]

Seems a distinct lack of sports psychology going on in the last few weeks.

I don't think I've ever seen us play in such an unsure way.

It also seems like a lack of imagination and flexibility when faced with problems. We play our way and adapt to whatever they do. But what if we run out of ideas?

Wearing my psychologist hat for a moment, they are exhibiting classic signs of performance anxiety. Particularly those coming back from injury. The ironic thing is that now that the pressure of staying on top is off them, I can completely see us running riot against Atalanta on Thursday and then going unbeaten the rest of the season in the league. After all, if you have nothing to lose then you have everything to gain. How many times have we seen teams over the years play unbelievably well in dead rubber matches? Palace had a completely free hit at us today and they took it.

This last week has showed that maybe the buildup has been too much for them - fear of letting the boss down in his last season, having so much to play for, it's clearly got to many of them. Then we have the returning players who are perhaps questioning themselves as to their ability, can they be the elite level they were before they were injured, etc. It's not so much of an issue for athletes who get injured relatively frequently, they have a regimen they follow and they tend to click back into gear fairly quickly. It's those who don't get injured often where we see the doubts creep in. Remember how long it took VVD to get back to form after Pickford poleaxed him? That is exactly where Salah is right now.

[Kopenhagen]

Hahahahah as if he’s doing that at their play … our right back and dm got played round like a pre season friendly

That's a better analogy. It's like we didn't even bother to defend it because it didn't matter or something. Like what the fuck, lads.

[MonsLibpool]

Arsenal lose today and it’s back on, right? RIGHT?!

City are ahead of us now and we're not matching their results.

[Redley]

We’ve gone behind 21 times in 32 prem games this season, it was eventually going to catch up.

Pretty sure that’s not true

[Jshooters]

Absolutely no chance of winning out.We fucked the two easiest games of the run in.

Maximum of 3 points off the top with 27 to play for 

[tommy LFC]

Truth is we were probably performing way above our level all season.

Rookie in goal most of the season, 2 kids playing regularly in the defence, brand new midfield etc. etc.

It's those two draws with United and failing to beat Arsenal at home that will ultimately do it

[jason42]

We do not start games at the right tempo.

We too often concede the first goal and then have to start playing - there are only so many times you can draw from that well.

It hurts like fuck to see our last few games but slagging off players who got us to this position just doesn't sit right with me.

[Mister Flip Flop]

WTF? They're not doing it on purpose ffs.

Lol, i think he means Palace mate.

[jillcwhomever]

Lol, i think he means Palace mate.

Who knows, he wouldn't be the first whose said that today.

[hide5seek]

Shameful performance from the red men.

[Oldmanmick]

Liverpool have generated 9.14xG over the last 3 games, scoring 2 goals in process while drawing once and losing twice.

Just shows what a crock of shite xG is. What is the fucking point of it ?

[rhysd]

Shell-shocked by that. 1st half we looked drugged and not PEDS.

2nd half I can't fathom how we didn't score. Bad luck and poor composure both.

Such a sad way for it to end for Klopp. We've completely hit a wall.

I was willing us to see him finish with a bang. 😥

Very deflating.

[wheresnemeth]

Wearing my psychologist hat for a moment, they are exhibiting classic signs of performance anxiety. Particularly those coming back from injury. The ironic thing is that now that the pressure of staying on top is off them, I can completely see us running riot against Atalanta on Thursday and then going unbeaten the rest of the season in the league. After all, if you have nothing to lose then you have everything to gain. How many times have we seen teams over the years play unbelievably well in dead rubber matches? Palace had a completely free hit at us today and they took it.

This last week has showed that maybe the buildup has been too much for them - fear of letting the boss down in his last season, having so much to play for, it's clearly got to many of them. Then we have the returning players who are perhaps questioning themselves as to their ability, can they be the elite level they were before they were injured, etc. It's not so much of an issue for athletes who get injured relatively frequently, they have a regimen they follow and they tend to click back into gear fairly quickly. It's those who don't get injured often where we see the doubts creep in. Remember how long it took VVD to get back to form after Pickford poleaxed him? That is exactly where Salah is right now.

It does seem like they tensed up in the las few games. I hope that we can get back to winning ways now that the pressure is off.

[William Regal]

You miss the young Mane, though, not the one that left us.

Nah he probably means the old one that scored 23 goals in 51 apps in his final season at the club, none of which were penalties.

[Mister Flip Flop]

Arsenal lose today and it’s back on, right? RIGHT?!

115 charges haven't got a hard game left. It doesn't matter what Arsenal do today

[xbugawugax]

On a plus note, we can say Palace loss cost us the title instead of Utd draw.
Thank God NBA play-offs starting soon.

not the first time aint it.

but still hope the players dont get so disheartened. as long as mathematically impossible to win it there is still some hope left.

[S]

Truth is we were probably performing way above our level all season.

Rookie in goal most of the season, 2 kids playing regularly in the defence, brand new midfield etc. etc.

You’d be amazed how few people realise this. As in, almost nobody.

Secure top four and it’s a successful season.

[Jookie]

Or in the real world, a lack of quality and composure

Whether it’s the finishing or the all round play, it’s comes down to lack of composure, skill, tactical nous or effort/fitness.

We know these players try and we know they have quality. Probably composure and confidence under pressure that is the key thing lacking. Though tactically we’ve been shambolic at times over last 6 games. No idea why because it’s not often at all  under Klopp we’ve been like this and this season we’ve be good tactically most of the time.

[JackWard33]

You’d be amazed how few people realise this. As in, almost nobody.

Secure top four and it’s a successful season.

Yup totally - but klopp leaving has irretrievably skewed this perception