Yorky, let's face it - we know that unless someone hands you a smoking gun dossier of proof then nothing will convince you.
That's just a fancy word for evidence. And, yes, that's what I'm asking for. Just corroborating evidence. It's not an extravagant demand.
Getting the conspiracists to offer any proof at all is very difficult but Andy from Allerton has today put two proofs forward. The first involves Anthony Taylor who he says is a Manchester United supporter with a family that all have season tickets at Old Trafford. The evidence for this is that 'a couple of mates told me it was true'. He thinks I'm a real bastard for taking this with a pinch of salt. He then refers me to Eeyore who has cited the Sun newspaper as evidence for the claim. That's a pretty extraordinary thing for anyone to do, especially a Liverpool supporter. Aside from questions of politics and morality the Sun newspaper has a very poor record at telling the truth. We all know that, or
should know that. And my guess is that Andy's two mates must have read the Sun themselves when they reported its findings to Andy. Hence the circularity of the claim. Fucking pitiful really.
Eeyore, to give him credit, seems embarrassed that he's citing the Sun as evidence to back his claims and therefore hasn't actually used the word 'Sun'. Bully for him. But now he's pivoting and saying that the real evidence that Taylor is a Man United fan is that he claims to be an Altrincham fan and that he has a season ticket there. The logic here is just plain weird! When "Manchester based journalists" (meaning the Guardian - a paper he clearly distrusts unlike the Sun) report that Taylor is indeed an Altrincham supporter, Eeyore simply adds that here is the 'smoking gun' that he must really be a Man United fan. Come on guys. This is off the scale weirdness! It certainly isn't proof!
The second proof offered by Andy is about Paul Tierney. He tells us that Tierney is a Man United supporter and that there's a photograph of him in the Stretford End. It's actually the Scoreboard End. The young lad (let's call him 'Tierney') is staring at Steven Gerrard who is kissing the camera. We all know the glorious day. So is it really Tierney? Andy has so far avoided the question, despite it being asked several times. It's his key piece of 'proof' as well. Yet he refuses so far to validate it. I wonder why? Because he really knows it's bullshit?
The kid in the picture may, I suppose, at a stretch, be Tierney. But the chances are it isn't. There's a passing resemblance I suppose. But on that basis every time we score a goal at Gladwys Street End there is Michael Jackson, Jeremy Corbyn, Queen Victoria, Beyonce, George Washington and David Bowie flicking V's at whichever Red is gallivanting away in euphoric celebration.