Topic: リバプールへようこそ 遠藤

[MonsLibpool]

He looked a bit lightweight (only watched the second half).

[farawayred]

Endo did well, considering the circumstances. His only 2nd game, and we played with 10 men again. When he settles in, he'll be an efficient operator.

[gerrardisgod]

Done well when we initially went down to ten, thought the midfield done well stabilising the chaos, tired after that.

[Kashinoda]

Great first half to be honest.

[Clint Eastwood]

I thought he was a bit rubbish to be honest, even before the red. He got dribbled past a fair few times, and looked pretty slow. I'm sure he'll improve, everything is still new for him. He looks better suited to the 8 position than the 6 though.

[DelTrotter]

Thought he was a step slow to most things and got worryingly done a few times being dribbled past by Schar and Guimaraes, had a couple of good tackles and interceptions too. Probably the toughest game physically you can play, them or City anyway so a tough first start. Is a bit of a worry how he just doesn't look a particularly good athlete though, that was bigged up as a massive strength.

[JackWard33]

He just doesn’t look quick enough

[farawayred]

He just doesn’t look quick enough

Fab was a gazelle...

[cptrios]

I honestly have no idea what to think of his performance, but either way we shouldn't be judging him yet. We shouldn't even be playing him yet, really, but needs must.

[Draex]

Thought he made us look far more solid defensively, tired after doing another 10 man team defense job.

The fact he tracked back and cut out the cross at one point was a huge positive, not seen Fab do that forever.

[Eeyore]

Thought he made us look far more solid defensively, tired after doing another 10 man team defense job.

The fact he tracked back and cut out the cross at one point was a huge positive, not seen Fab do that forever.

He was supposed to be playing the 6 role but kept getting ahead of the 8's and ahead of the ball. He seems to have no positional discipline and just goes on mad one-man presses.

[Bend It Like Aurelio]

Joelinton tried to use him as a roadblock a few times, and he got back to cut out some aerial balls and interceptions as well. He was bullied by Guimares and Joelinton and stood up to most of it.

With the ball he needs more reps, think he passed it down some blind alleys a couple of times.

Did well I thought.

[Bend It Like Aurelio]

He was supposed to be playing the 6 role but kept getting ahead of the 8's and ahead of the ball. He seems to have no positional discipline and just goes on mad one-man presses.

Our midfield does that quite normally. Szoboszlai often goes beyond the forwards when he presses. Don’t think anyone is saying he’s got no positional discipline here.

[RedG13]

He was supposed to be playing the 6 role but kept getting ahead of the 8's and ahead of the ball. He seems to have no positional discipline and just goes on mad one-man presses.

Shocker when he had like 4 training sessions.
Fabinho in the league cup game game vs chelsea in sept half he signed didnt even look up to speed.
He also played as more of the link player in germany at times.
Idk there was not much to take from this game outside he not up to speed.

[Schmidt]

Some good, some bad, but he's been thrown in with no time to adapt and was up against a difficult midfield to play against, especially with the ref so deep in their pocket.

[shank94]

Tough two games for his debuts, I think he has done well to be fair to him. Was often bypassed a bit too easily because he was pressing individually and at wrong moments, that should improve with time. My thoughts about him not looking for long balls seems like a thing, man wants to play the ball on the ground.

[Draex]

Shocker when he had like 4 training sessions.
Fabinho in the league cup game game vs chelsea in sept half he signed didnt even look up to speed.
He also played as more of the link player in germany at times.
Idk there was not much to take from this game outside he not up to speed.

People have made their mind up he's FSG being cheapskates rather than watching the guy play.

As you say, Fabinho had lots of bedding in time, Endo has had a week.

[Eeyore]

Our midfield does that quite normally. Szoboszlai often goes beyond the forwards when he presses. Don’t think anyone is saying he’s got no positional discipline here.

An 8 has a license to do that because he is covered by the 6. Who covers for the 6 when he is too high up the pitch.

[Eeyore]

People have made their mind up he's FSG being cheapskates rather than watching the guy play.

As you say, Fabinho had lots of bedding in time, Endo has had a week.

Fabinho got plenty of bedding in time because he had previously proved himself as an exceptional player with a high ceiling. The problem with signing a 30-year-old with very little pedigree is that you have a dip whilst he beds in but very little potential upside.

His job today especially when we went down to ten men was to sit and screen the back four not charge forward and get passed around.

[sheepfest]

Bet he would love to play a full game with 11 at this rate.

[Simplexity]

Early days, but has a tendency to let games pass him by, as a 6, it is not a good quality to have.

[macmanamanaman]

In Japan, we have an old saying:
"Play the game with 11. That is all"

[farawayred]

Bet he would love to play a full game with 11 at this rate.

He wouldn't know his position. Klopp may not have covered that.. 

[RedG13]

People have made their mind up he's FSG being cheapskates rather than watching the guy play.

As you say, Fabinho had lots of bedding in time, Endo has had a week.

Im not 100% sold on him being the Guy at the #6 but like he totally do a job in multiple roles. He barely even played with 11 men and had no training time.
He done pretty well considering the circumstances he been in.

[Doc Red]

People have made their mind up he's FSG being cheapskates rather than watching the guy play.

As you say, Fabinho had lots of bedding in time, Endo has had a week.

Fabinho did need time. But it felt more like he needed to adjust to the pace, though he did have a physical presence in the midfield.
Took him time to adjust to how little time he had on the ball, and also the technical requirements of his role. but you could see early on the signs of a quality DM. He wasn't the fastest, but players weren't running off him the way they were this past season.

Endo just looked like a midfielder playing the DM role as a temporary band aid. Players ran off him with ease, it didn't look like he offered any sort of physical shield in front of the defense. He can improve in time his tactical understanding of his role, adjust to the limited time on the ball, but is he going to get any quicker or stronger? Is he just going to grow into a better tackler over time?

I can't believe he'll be the DM that we end up with after the window shuts. You don't just go from a Lavia or Caciedo, to Endo and no one else for the DM spot. I really hope we get someone else in alongside Endo.

[Too early for flapjacks?]

I think he's over estimating his ability to use his strength and speed to compete. He may be strong enough in those areas to impose himself in Germany but he'll need adapt and rely more on his positioning and timing in the PL because he looks physically average.

[RedKenWah]

It would be good for him to be involved in a game with 11 v 11 for more than 30 mins as really the whole plan goes out the window when a player gets sent off.

He’s done alright but again circumstances have to be considered before too much judgement

[missis sumner]

These past two games, he must wonder what the fuck he's come into.

He's done more than ok.

[MonsLibpool]

These past two games, he must wonder what the fuck he's come into.

He's done more than ok.

He shouldn't be a starter IMO. Would be a decent rotation option.

[Wilmo]

Joelinton tried to use him as a roadblock a few times, and he got back to cut out some aerial balls and interceptions as well. He was bullied by Guimares and Joelinton and stood up to most of it.

With the ball he needs more reps, think he passed it down some blind alleys a couple of times.

Did well I thought.

Pretty much my thoughts, better than I would have expressed.

I like him, looking forward to seeing more. Never hides, areas to improve, let's see.

[missis sumner]

He shouldn't be a starter IMO. Would be a decent rotation option.

In a perfect world, no I don't think he should have started today.  He needs time.  But he was our best option, in my opinion.  Who else could have started there?

[MonsLibpool]

In a perfect world, no I don't think he should have started today.  He needs time.  But he was our best option, in my opinion.  Who else could have started there?

That's fine but the transfer window is still open.

[MD1990]

His lack of pace is a worry.
Needs time to full see whethercheviscacstarter or squad player

[jepovic]

Let's see how he does in a normal game with 11 men, in the unlikely case we will be allowed that

[newterp]

Didn't watch the game  , but how did Endo perform during the first hour?

He struggled. If anyone says otherwise they are lying.

But I think soon he will cope with the pace.

[Roger Federer]

I don’t think pace is a must in a great number 6, Fabinho was hardly rapid, but it depends on team around that player. With peak Van Dijk, Robertson and Matip/Gomez, it wasn’t a problem for Fabinho, but our current team isn’t as athletic overall.

Konate is an exception among our starters, but he alone isn’t enough and the 6 in the current team needs to provide fast running in addition to positioning and aggression. Not seen much yet of course, but based on the first impressions of Endo, he does not seem to be that sort of player unfortunately.

[Hazell]

Didn't watch the game  , but how did Endo perform during the first hour?

Thought he was fine for his second game. Again playing difficult circumstances, and even if he wasn't, far too early to judge. Still, much prefer him being in a midfield  3 than Gakpo playing in there.

[The G in Gerrard]

Absurd criticism.

[Roady]

He struggled. If anyone says otherwise they are lying.

But I think soon he will cope with the pace.

He is bound to struggle down to ten men.

[Avens]

He was supposed to be playing the 6 role but kept getting ahead of the 8's and ahead of the ball. He seems to have no positional discipline and just goes on mad one-man presses.

Good of you to give him a chance Al. No possibility that he's still learning the brand new system he's playing in?