Topic: European Super League

[Mister Flip Flop]

I'm for any sort of league without the Citys and Newcastle's of this world.

[lionel_messias]

Spanish journos reporting UEFA about to cancel thier new CL format to combat this. 

If this is true, Uefa are fucked. Clubs will know they can fold.

[exiledintheUSA]

Hopefully this can be used to reform the English game. 

The PL and The FA need to start making some radical improvements to safeguard its competitions.  Fuck-off the State Ownership, implement a meaningful ownership test, take action against financial doping, fuck-off refs taking jollys to the Far East, protect the league structure and ensure that clubs at the grass-roots are viable business concerns. 

[jillcwhomever]

German clubs are 51% fan owned they'd need the permission of their supporters. That's a no-go right from the bat.

Sensible them.

[jepovic]

I still find it hard to believe proper clubs signed up to that without guarantees that the cheating state owned clubs would be dealt with.

It's the owners that signed up.
They see a way to inflate the value of their investments

[Ma Vie en Rouge]

Let’s keep the champions league how it is with 75% of games being fillers before the quarter finals.

Maybe we will only have 4 more Middle Eastern owned clubs to compete with before 2030 if we’re lucky… Let’s also hope they’re generous in Saudi and only take 1/2 key players from our league each season as opposed to 3/4.

It’s all working so well atm it would be mental to try change anything, thank fuck for uefa.

As you know, no one is saying it is working well, right?

Just like Brexit, that doesn't mean that any change is good change. If the mentality behind the changes is still greed and self-aggrandisement, then the changes won't bring the benefits you are looking for.

We need leagues with fan representation at all levels, and meaningful rules that see and protect football clubs as cultural entities that are intrinsically linked to the communities that they are based within, not as abstract commodities and brands that can be leveraged for endless profit by bloodless investors.

Until someone proposes something that moves in that direction, the rest is just greedy men and women fighting over who gets to swell their bank accounts the most.

[JRed]

Fan representation at Club and governance levels.

And how would that deal with the cheating state owned clubs?

[jillcwhomever]

As you know, no one is saying it is working well, right?

Just like Brexit, that doesn't mean that any change is good change. If the mentality behind the changes is still greed and self-aggrandisement, then the changes won't bring the benefits you are looking for.

We need leagues with fan representation at all levels, and meaningful rules that see and protect football clubs as cultural entities that are intrinsically linked to the communities that they are based within, not as abstract commodities and brands that can be leveraged for endless profit by bloodless investors.

Until someone proposes something that moves in that direction, the rest is just greedy men and women fighting over who gets to swell their bank accounts the most.

 

[Eeyore]

My favourite bit of the announcement is A22 stating that the games will be streamed for free. Sounds marvelous. Until further down they state there will be a subscription tier for people who want to watch the games with minimal advertising and added features.

[Musketeer Gripweed]

Have Sky rolled out Neville to bat for them yet?

[JRed]

My favourite bit of the announcement is A22 stating that the games will be streamed for free. Sounds marvelous. Until further down they state there will be a subscription tier for people who want to watch the games with minimal advertising and added features.

You can watch for free with adverts?
As oppose to paying sky and tnt to watch with adverts?
Sounds good.

[tubby]

You can watch for free with adverts?
As oppose to paying sky and tnt to watch with adverts?
Sounds good.

Unless it's adverts mid-game.

[Samie]

Our overlords haven't released a statment yet. Just putting it out there. 

[Ma Vie en Rouge]

Unless it's adverts mid-game.

And it 100% will be.

And then quarters, for more ad breaks.

And then all the other mind-numbing, soul-destroying garbage of American Sports-Capitalism.


Yay.

[jambutty]

For me, the most important things to establish if a Super League is to be formed:

Stringent steps to maintain low ticket prices to ST holders.

More development money to lower league Clubs.

[deanloco9]

Our overlords haven't released a statment yet. Just putting it out there. 

Tbf we never last time, We had a statement from the glazers I think and then John Henry made a forced apology

[jillcwhomever]

Tbf we never last time, We had a statement from the glazers I think and then John Henry made a forced apology

Sadly they never appear to learn from stuff like this.

[exiledintheUSA]

Our overlords haven't released a statment yet. Just putting it out there. 

Good. Poker face time.  Let The FA and PL sweat it out.
 

[newterp]

For me, the most important things to establish if a Super League is to be formed:

Stringent steps to maintain low ticket prices to ST holders.

More development money to lower league Clubs.

I feel like the Super League has neither of these interests in mind.

[jambutty]

Our overlords haven't released a statment yet. Just putting it out there. 

You left out jackbooted.

[jepovic]

And it 100% will be.

And then quarters, for more ad breaks.

And then all the other mind-numbing, soul-destroying garbage of American Sports-Capitalism.


Yay.

One word for fans who dont think football could get any worse: Baseball

[jepovic]

For me, the most important things to establish if a Super League is to be formed:

Stringent steps to maintain low ticket prices to ST holders.

More development money to lower league Clubs.

They would move the whole club to Qatar, so why on earth would they care about ST holders?

[jambutty]

Stop it.  The Yanks won't fuck with our game.  They need it.  Theirs is shite.

[newterp]

They would move the whole club to Qatar, so why on earth would they care about ST holders?

who would?

[redgriffin73]

What's more depressing is the number of imbeciles, led by chief imbecile Jamie Carragher, thinking joining the ESL was leaving the PL. Stupid c*nts everywhere.

There is a story on the Echo today quoting some bloke who's supposedly a sports law expert who is saying the same. No wonder so many dimwits believe it.

[Eeyore]

Stop it.  The Yanks won't fuck with our game.  They need it.  Theirs is shite.

Cough '39th game' cough.

[jambutty]

Cough '39th game' cough.

A fantastic idea.

I remember everyone decrying 5 subs.

And a scoreboard.

Why don't our matchgoers have a big screen for goal replays?

Evolve, Luddites.

[-Willo-]

As you know, no one is saying it is working well, right?

Just like Brexit, that doesn't mean that any change is good change. If the mentality behind the changes is still greed and self-aggrandisement, then the changes won't bring the benefits you are looking for.

We need leagues with fan representation at all levels, and meaningful rules that see and protect football clubs as cultural entities that are intrinsically linked to the communities that they are based within, not as abstract commodities and brands that can be leveraged for endless profit by bloodless investors.

Until someone proposes something that moves in that direction, the rest is just greedy men and women fighting over who gets to swell their bank accounts the most.

Well it’s never going to happen, the money is too much for the people in control, so you have 2 alternatives.

Stick with the 1 that isn’t working, or go with the 2nd option.

The grass might not be greener you’re right, but the grass we arw on now isn’t even green so why not try

[Lynx the saucy mynx]

Spanish journos reporting UEFA about to cancel thier new CL format to combat this. 

This is the main reason I want a Super League. Simply because competition forces UEFA to do better. Just like in any industry, when there’s no competition then complacency sets in.

More games, expensive subscriptions, expensive tickets, VAR, PGMOL sportswashing. We can complain all we want, but where will we go? There’s no one the current game is pushing us towards. So they keep behaving the same.

Just the idea that there is a competitor, someone to light a fire under UEFA and FIFA is what is needed. The games are free. But how much will they be without ads? Will the most you pay be £5-10? How do Sky and TNT respond when games are offered for such a small price? Will they decease theirs too? This is the competition I want. When two entities compete - its better for the consumer.

It’s not the solution - but it’s better than a monopoly, where the only game in town can do what it wants. Because there’s no competitor to offer a solution.

I don’t think a Super League is the magic pill. Some of problems with the game will continue to exist. But I ask anyone against it - are you saying monopolies are GOOD?

[Eeyore]

You can watch for free with adverts?
As oppose to paying sky and tnt to watch with adverts?
Sounds good.

Think of YouTube and YouTube Premium.

They will make the adverts so intrusive that you have to subscribe. 

Look at Sky originally that was free to watch.

[Eeyore]

A fantastic idea.

I remember everyone decrying 5 subs.

And a scoreboard.

Why don't our matchgoers have a big screen for goal replays?

Evolve, Luddites.

How was a 39th game on another continent a fantastic idea?

[jillcwhomever]

Well it’s never going to happen, the money is too much for the people in control, so you have 2 alternatives.

Stick with the 1 that isn’t working, or go with the 2nd option.

The grass might not be greener you’re right, but the grass we arw on now isn’t even green so why not try

Go with the second option which also won't work. That's not a solution just more of what we already have.

[Ma Vie en Rouge]

Well it’s never going to happen, the money is too much for the people in control, so you have 2 alternatives.

Stick with the 1 that isn’t working, or go with the 2nd option.

The grass might not be greener you’re right, but the grass we arw on now isn’t even green so why not try

Why not try something that is controlled by greedy people without our best interests (or any of our interests) at heart, that will inevitably end domestic football if it succeeds, and dissolve the ties between a nations' clubs, and remove financial support for clubs lower down the tier (that will happen, whatever they say at first)? Oooooh, I really don't know?

Rushing into the arms of the new without working out whether that's an embrace or a death-grip that awaits you... nah, I'd rather not.

[jambutty]

How was a 39th game on another continent a fantastic idea?

It would guarantee 20-40k of our fans to go to NY, Singapore, HK, China, Delhi, Oz to see a league match between 2 Giants of PL footy.

What an awful idea.

[-Willo-]

Go with the second option which also won't work. That's not a solution just more of what we already have.

Whether it will or won’t work is all about personal opinion I guess.

I think it will, after a year or so of the inevitable complaining because people hate change everyone would enjoy it. Especially with the promotion / relegation addition. It’s much better than the first proposal.

[elsewhere]

Did Everton make a statement yet?

[jambutty]

Did Everton make a statement yet?

They would play their 39th in Blackpool.

[JRed]

Did Everton make a statement yet?

They are absolutely against it, unless they are invited.

[Samie]

Our Women's team would also be invovled in the Women's equivlent of this but their's is a 2 league system. 

[Eeyore]

It would guarantee 20-40k of our fans to go to NY, Singapore, HK, China, Delhi, Oz to see a league match between 2 Giants of PL footy.

What an awful idea.

That is far more important than the sporting integrity of the competition.