Topic: European Super League

[jillcwhomever]

The number of LFC fans who appear to want this is just depressing.

[lionel_messias]

The number of LFC fans who appear to want this is just depressing.

But football always moves forward. People forget The Premier League is a cartel formed on the back of what came before. The Champions League is a money making cartel, formed on the history of the European Cup.

And so on.

[Redsnappa]

Do we get our £3.7m fine money back?

[JRed]

The number of LFC fans who appear to want this is just depressing.

I think it’s more that people have had enough of the current system and want change. The despots have bought Fifa and Uefa, they are close to owning the PL. something has to change Jill. Surely you see that?

[jillcwhomever]

I think it’s more that people have had enough of the current system and want change. The despots have bought Fifa and Uefa, they are close to owning the PL. something has to change Jill. Surely you see that?

All I see is greed everywhere, whether it's UEFA, FIFA, the clubs and now even the fans using the despots as justification for the latest piece of greed. Dress it how you want but it's still the same old greed. Not only that go down this route the next thing will be playing these games away from Europe, as they continue to screw the ordinary fan

[Zlen]

The number of LFC fans who appear to want this is just depressing.

As things currently stand - reform of the existing setup is impossible.
Only thing left to hope for is to burn it to the fucking ground.
So let it burn.

[Sharado]

The number of LFC fans who appear to want this is just depressing.

I don't really want it but the direction of football and the general state football finds itself in right now is hardly any better. We currently have 2 repressive regimes owning premier league clubs, venture capitalists bleeding other clubs dry, and UEFA/FIFA with their noses in the trough making the rich richer, the players play more and the fans to pay more. I don't really see how the super league is any better or worse than what's already here to be honest. Still, roll on the world cup in Saudi Arabia in 2030 when we can just get back to enjoying the football.

[Red-Soldier]

The number of LFC fans who appear to want this is just depressing.

I'd rather us join the EFL instead, but I don't think that'll happen.

[JRed]

All I see is greed everywhere, whether it's UEFA, FIFA, the clubs and now even the fans using the despots as justification for the latest piece of greed. Dress it how you want but it's still the same old greed. Not only that go down this route the next thing will be playing these games away from Europe, as they continue to screw the ordinary fan

I guess the way I see it is that I’m almost done with football anyway, and it’s solely because of the despotic regimes killing the game. We’d have had numerous titles over the last few years but we were up against the biggest cheats in the history of world sport, who as yet, have not been punished. It’s a fucking disgrace and I want no part of the game if it’s allowed to continue. So, if a version of the super league can deal with the cheats, then I’ll be for it. Hopefully not at the expense of the football pyramid tho, which I agree would be just as bad for the game in general

[Brain Potter]

This needs binning off as soon as possible. It’s a fucking terrible idea.

[Tony19:6]

I'm still absorbing the implications of this ruling, no doubt things will become clearer over the coming days.

To be clear I don't want an ESL in the format is was proposed, but surely any ruling which loosens the grip of the UEFA/FIFA cartel has to be a good thing?

Things need to change...   

[AllyouneedisRush]

I don't want this to happen as I think I may walk away from the game if an entire new league structure is created.  But sadly think it's inevitable...

£££££££

[Barneylfc∗]

The number of LFC fans who appear to want this is just depressing.

Is it? UEFA is bent as fuck. The CL is pretty much what the ESL proposed to be.

I'd be delighted if we fucked UEFA off for something else.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

The number of LFC fans who appear to want this is just depressing.

The current system is abysmal

Football isn't really any fun any more. If something can be done around that then that would be a massive improvement.

[Barneylfc∗]

What's more depressing is the number of imbeciles, led by chief imbecile Jamie Carragher, thinking joining the ESL was leaving the PL. Stupid c*nts everywhere.

[tubby]

If it replaces the CL, that's great.  If it's a closed shop with no relegation, that's shit.

[Djimigotamedal]

Just out of interest as I’m too young to remember life before Sky’s premier league was created, what was the feeling towards that at the time? I seem to remember seeing a clip of des lynam saying it was much criticised or something along those lines.

Although I’m against the idea of a super league, I do think we have to be careful listening to carragher and Neville who seem to have become to voice of the fans on these matters.

[BarryCrocker]

I'd be very disappointed if we broke away from an association we've been part of for 131 years. To just 'park' that part of our traditions would be in tune with the franchise business model that I despise in American sports.

Bring back the days where a Champions League was just that. Champions Of Champions.

[Walshy nMe®]

They should make the Champions League/European Cup champions only, straight knockout.

Europa League/UEFA Cup should be all of the other top 5/6 teams to win, will give it more prestige too.

[AllyouneedisRush]

Just out of interest as I’m too young to remember life before Sky’s premier league was created, what was the feeling towards that at the time? I seem to remember seeing a clip of des lynam saying it was much criticised or something along those lines.

Although I’m against the idea of a super league, I do think we have to be careful listening to carragher and Neville who seem to have become to voice of the fans on these matters.

It was the same league system so nothing really changed in that way, so no one really moaned about it, a few wise old sages did say to be careful, but it was pretty much welcomed.

The Sky influence has changed much over the years.

Carragher and Neville speak for themselves , not fans.

[JackWard33]

I don't really want it but the direction of football and the general state football finds itself in right now is hardly any better. We currently have 2 repressive regimes owning premier league clubs, venture capitalists bleeding other clubs dry, and UEFA/FIFA with their noses in the trough making the rich richer, the players play more and the fans to pay more. I don't really see how the super league is any better or worse than what's already here to be honest. Still, roll on the world cup in Saudi Arabia in 2030 when we can just get back to enjoying the football.

It went almost entirely under the radar for some reason but Amarco is now the biggest backer of Fifa.... Saudi Arabia basically own world football in plain sight and no one bats an eyelid
The world club cup is a Saudi backed initiative with the idea of Saudi teams having a platform and growing to supercede the CL ... the world cup is there in 2030 awarded with no competitors behind a closed doors weeks before the sponsorships deal was announced

The super league is an attempt by the old European giants to cling to relevance but fuck knows where it goes from here - its a mess.
It's very hard to imagine that a 20 team premier league will be the leading club competition for this countries biggest clubs a decade from now

[Andy @ Allerton!]

They should make the Champions League/European Cup champions only, straight knockout.

Europa League/UEFA Cup should be all of the other top 5/6 teams to win, will give it more prestige too.

Totally agree with this. The top four or five being in the competition means it's just fucking shite.

Make it;


CHAMPIONS: CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

2-3 - Europa League

4 - Conference Europe thingy


5 and lower - no European football



Less is more. Much more.

[AllyouneedisRush]

Totally agree with this. The top four or five being in the competition means it's just fucking shite.

Make it;


CHAMPIONS: CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

2-3 - Europa League

4 - Conference Europe thingy


5 and lower - no European football



Less is more. Much more.

But the tv companies are paying billions, they want/need more games.

[jambutty]

Benjamins and a public thirsty for more quality matches.

[jillcwhomever]

It went almost entirely under the radar for some reason but Amarco is now the biggest backer of Fifa.... Saudi Arabia basically own world football in plain sight and no one bats an eyelid
The world club cup is a Saudi backed initiative with the idea of Saudi teams having a platform and growing to supercede the CL ... the world cup is there in 2030 awarded with no competitors behind a closed doors weeks before the sponsorships deal was announced

The super league is an attempt by the old European giants to cling to relevance but fuck knows where it goes from here - its a mess.
It's very hard to imagine that a 20 team premier league will be the leading club competition for this countries biggest clubs a decade from now

It's nothing more than a pipe dream anyway. The ruling itself makes it clear it's not in favour of a Super League.

[redan]

Anyone watching this Super League relaunch video??

They just showed a video which explained how there are three divisions which have (minimal) promotion and relegation and half the teams in the bottom division swap out for new teams each season. The co-host asked the CEO/Presenter how clubs qualify for the bottom division and he said ‘he doesn’t know yet’ 🤣🤣

Nothing like being prepared

[Red Bird]

I read from the ruling what I always suspected— UEFA and, in particular, FIFA are a collective law unto themselves with not an iota of  accountability protocols and regulatory procedures— it’s make it up as we go along. And they’re as corrupt as all get out.

The ESL itself is mainly the two or three team leagues casting their beady eye on the Premier League without actually appreciating why it brings in so much revenue in the first (and why they don’t.)

[Bread]

Think we'll see this come to fruition eventually. The fact it's no longer a closed shop will swing it, and the idea of this streaming service that will air every game for free will turn the heads of a lot of fans currently shelling out for Sky/BT/Amazon.

[CowboyKangaroo]

Do we get our £3.7m fine money back?

That was always a donation - no rules had been broken (at that point) even prior to this decision.

[Barneylfc∗]

I'd be very disappointed if we broke away from an association we've been part of for 131 years. To just 'park' that part of our traditions would be in tune with the franchise business model that I despise in American sports.

Bring back the days where a Champions League was just that. Champions Of Champions.

You're not going to be dissappointed then, because we wouldn't be.

We've only been part of the PL for 31 years.
Prior to that we were part of the football league for 100 years.
Regardless, joining the ESL wouldn't be leaving the PL 

[disgraced cake]

Anyone watching this Super League relaunch video??

They just showed a video which explained how there are three divisions which have (minimal) promotion and relegation and half the teams in the bottom division swap out for new teams each season. The co-host asked the CEO/Presenter how clubs qualify for the bottom division and he said ‘he doesn’t know yet’ 🤣🤣

Nothing like being prepared

I can understand people want to say goodbye to UEFA, fair enough, would be nice and all. But I can't believe there are still people who seriously want this shite to go ahead. You are just walking into the exact same problem. It'll be spiting arseholes then handing power over to people who'll likely prove themselves to be just as big arseholes.

There is literally no winning IMO and it's horrible for the fans. Football at the top level is completely fucked, has been for years and is surely beyond saving now.

[jillcwhomever]

You're not going to be dissappointed then, because we wouldn't be.

We've only been part of the PL for 31 years.
Prior to that we were part of the football league for 100 years.
Regardless, joining the ESL wouldn't be leaving the PL 

They didn't even think it out properly even as it was launched, people asking questions about how it would be run, it was a badly thought up venture. I totally get people having no faith in UEFA/FIFA but this whole venture was no more than a cock up.

[ScouserAtHeart]

Bernd Reichart, the chief executive of A22, a consultancy hired by the Super League Company, said on X: “We have won the right to compete. The Uefa monopoly is over. Football is free. Clubs are now free from the threat of sanction and free to determine their own futures.”

Reichart said of the project’s plans: “For fans: We propose free viewing of all Super League matches. For clubs: Revenues and solidarity spending will be guaranteed.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/dec/21/european-super-league-boost-court-of-justice-ruling-uefa-fifa-eu-law

[jepovic]

BOOM! There it is....!

Roll on the Super League.  Roll on clubs in charge of their own broadcast rights. Liverpool European matches without the need to sub BT Sports/TNT. Thank you very much!

Awww, sweet summer child

[ScouserAtHeart]

Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano

🚨🏆 Super League potential format announced.

🔢 64 teams.
📊 3 divisions (Star, Gold and Blue) with promotions and relegations.

⚽️ 14 games each season per team.
🏡 7 at home.
🛫 7 away.

🔓 It will be an open competition
⚔️ Two phases: League and playoffs.

[Musketeer Gripweed]

At least some serious discussions and proposals may come out of this news. What happens after that, fuck knows. Might the best thing or the worst thing ever.

[lfc_col]

I think it’s more that people have had enough of the current system and want change. The despots have bought Fifa and Uefa, they are close to owning the PL. something has to change Jill. Surely you see that?

It wont change though the likes of city and Newcastle will be involved

[disgraced cake]

Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano

🚨🏆 Super League potential format announced.

🔢 64 teams.
📊 3 divisions (Star, Gold and Blue) with promotions and relegations.

⚽️ 14 games each season per team.
🏡 7 at home.
🛫 7 away.

🔓 It will be an open competition
⚔️ Two phases: League and playoffs.

Sounds absolutely shite.

[JackWard33]

This A22 company / collection of old european clubs are just so weird ... how have they learned nothing after last time and are doing another ham fisted, not thought through launch of a thing??!!!!

Just develop it properly.. get people on board and have a proper launch event - at least give yourselves a chance

Oh and free to air is just dumb.. they won't make as much money and you'll be watching 'welcome to the 2nd quarter of todays game brought to you in assocation with Mattel .. get Malibu barbie by hitting your red button now'

[lfc_col]

Oh and free to air is just dumb.. they won't make as much money and you'll be watching 'welcome to the 2nd quarter of todays game brought to you in assocation with Mattel .. get Malibu barbie by hitting your red button now'

Thats a good thing isn't it more people can actually watch the games i dont see a problem with that