Topic: Champions League Quarter Finals.

[Iska]

Madrid have all these CL or European Cup titles, But 5 of them were in the 50's when no one really gave a rats ass about the European Cup

Such a terrible argument this, hate hearing it.  Especially when it’s from fans of a club two-thirds of whose triumphs came from beating the might of Monchengladbach, Bruges, Roma and Tottenham.  Or who picked them up when you only had to play nine games to win it, not like now when the cream of Europe is in it every single year.

[Samie]

Monchengladbach were the dominant German team of that era and Roma was pretty good too in the early 80's.  I'll give you Spurs.

[Dim Glas]

Such a terrible argument this, hate hearing it.  Especially when it’s from fans of a club two-thirds of whose triumphs came from beating the might of Monchengladbach, Bruges, Roma and Tottenham.  Or who picked them up when you only had to play nine games to win it, not like now when the cream of Europe is in it every single year.

wow.  What a mad comment that is. Like something you’d hear from a Man City fan.

[PaulF]

What's the best channel to get watch this in the UK? I forked out for a sky day pass on Sunday and that was pretty good.

[rob1966]

What's the best channel to get watch this in the UK? I forked out for a sky day pass on Sunday and that was pretty good.

BT Sport

[CanuckYNWA]

Alright Atletico, I dont like you. Your football is shit, your manager is a twat, your players are c**ts

But please beat City tonight

[rob1966]

Such a terrible argument this, hate hearing it.  Especially when it’s from fans of a club two-thirds of whose triumphs came from beating the might of Monchengladbach, Bruges, Roma and Tottenham.  Or who picked them up when you only had to play nine games to win it, not like now when the cream of Europe is in it every single year.

Yeah, beating the German Champions and the Italian Champions in their own stadium was a piece of piss, that's why in 1977 we were only the 10th English club  since 1960 to win the European Cup....

Alright Atletico, I dont like you. Your football is shit, your manager is a twat, your players are c**ts

But please beat City tonight

Own goal by Ederson or a Suarez tap in please

[Lone Star Red]

Fingers crossed for a 1-0 victory for Atletico. 120 minutes of shitehousery and wearing City out mentally and physically. And then winning it in pens. Just about perfection. Pep would explode.

[El Lobo]

Own goal by Ederson or a Suarez tap in please

They didnt use him at all against United, I guess saving the moment for tonight

[PaulF]

BT Sport

Thank you.

[him_15]

Unsure which match to watch tonight.

[Iska]

wow.  What a mad comment that is. Like something you’d hear from a Man City fan.

I’d be surprised if they’re not already saying it.  They certainly will be if they ever pick up a couple of their own.  Just pointing out the obvious pitfalls of discrediting the earlier EC triumphs.

Yeah, beating the German Champions and the Italian Champions in their own stadium was a piece of piss, that's why in 1977 we were only the 10th English club  since 1960 to win the European Cup....

No need to even go that far imo.  There’s only one European Champion every year, how many times has it been you, that’s the line to take.

Anyway I think it was only the first tourney where it was part-invitational, and it was still the continent’s strongest clubs that were in it.  Wins 2-5 were totally legit afaict.  If there’s any wins that should get an asterisk it’s the two covid ones where there were no fans.  I’m not sure those actually even happened.

[rob1966]

I’d be surprised if they’re not already saying it.  They certainly will be if they ever pick up a couple of their own.  Just pointing out the obvious pitfalls of discrediting the earlier EC triumphs.No need to even go that far imo.  There’s only one European Champion every year, how many times has it been you, that’s the line to take.

Anyway I think it was only the first tourney where it was part-invitational, and it was still the continent’s strongest clubs that were in it.  Wins 2-5 were totally legit afaict.  If there’s any wins that should get an asterisk it’s the two covid ones where there were no fans.  I’m not sure those actually even happened.

Show us yours and we'll show you ours

[GinKop]

Hopefully the Wanda is at its absolute most intimidating best tonight.

[Black Bull Nova]

Unsure which match to watch tonight.

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[afc tukrish]

Hopefully the Wanda is at its absolute most intimidating best tonight.

[newterp]

Unsure which match to watch tonight.

lol.

[Peabee]

wow.  What a mad comment that is. Like something you’d hear from a Man City fan.

I love it when the mask slips.

[Yorkykopite]

Fingers crossed for a 1-0 victory for Atletico. 120 minutes of shitehousery and wearing City out mentally and physically. And then winning it in pens. Just about perfection. Pep would explode.

Atletico are a loathsome club - and always have been. There's almost nothing to admire about them. Their shithousery is not a recent thing. It's part of their DNA. Here's the infamous European cup semi-final v Celtic in which they set out to kick and hurt the Celtic team. Kenny came in for some rough treatment that night, as did Jinky Johnstone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpxoTiKkvw8

We grumble about refereeing standards today. They are a million times better than they used to be.

Hopefully this despicable club will shit all over Man City tonight.

[Fruity]

Yeah, beating the German Champions and the Italian Champions in their own stadium was a piece of piss, that's why in 1977 we were only the 10th English club  since 1960 to win the European Cup

Sorry but maybe I am not reading this right. In 1977 we were only the 2nd English club to win the European Cup. United in the 60's and Celtic (scottish) had won it.

In response to iska during that period you had to actually win your league to be there so in my view making it even harder back then.

[rushyman]

It’ll be funny if city go out for about 30 mins

Then the realisation of them getting rest will sink in

[smutchin]

Madrid have all these CL or European Cup titles, But 5 of them were in the 50's when no one really gave a rats ass about the European Cup

To be fair, that Madrid team had a few half-decent players and probably would have done ok anyway.

[Iska]

Sorry but maybe I am not reading this right. In 1977 we were only the 2nd English club to win the European Cup. United in the 60's and Celtic (scottish) had won it.

In response to iska during that period you had to actually win your league to be there so in my view making it even harder back then.

He’s taking the piss out of my suggestion that 77 or 84 might be called easy wins.  If it was that easy the English entry would’ve been winning it routinely.

fwiw I don’t see how it can be harder either now or then, just different.  There’s only one team manages to become European Champions every year, while all the other sides in Europe get eliminated somehow.  Surely by definition the achievement is the same?!

[Mister Flip Flop]

Unsure which match to watch tonight.

Wha?

[JRed]

Fingers crossed for a 1-0 victory for Atletico. 120 minutes of shitehousery and wearing City out mentally and physically. And then winning it in pens. Just about perfection. Pep would explode.

Sounds good.

[JRed]

It’ll be funny if city go out for about 30 mins

Then the realisation of them getting rest will sink in

When have cup runs affected their league form?
I think the mental blow of getting knocked out could affect them also. Yes in an ideal world they get through but then get knocked out in the semi. That’s not a given tho, it’s best if they are dumped out as early as possible. I actually think Atletico have a better chance of going through than Real will have over 2 legs. Don’t want to meet city in the final if we get there, hate playing English clubs in Europe.

[JasonF]

7 changes for us, only 2 for City. Bound to make a difference at the weekend, considering they've got to travel this time rather than us.

The advantages of having a decent first leg lead as well as a stronger squad.

[Peabee]

He’s taking the piss out of my suggestion that 77 or 84 might be called easy wins.  If it was that easy the English entry would’ve been winning it routinely.

fwiw I don’t see how it can be harder either now or then, just different.  There’s only one team manages to become European Champions every year, while all the other sides in Europe get eliminated somehow.  Surely by definition the achievement is the same?!

Sorry, I misread your original post if this is the point you were making. Yeah, it was harder to qualify when only the champions were participating, but then there were fewer games and teams once qualified. Now it’s easier to qualify, but with the number of teams and group stages, it’s harder to win once you’ve qualified.  Achievement is still the same as only one team in Europe wins it.

Everton fans wouldn’t be saying any of this if they were regular qualifiers or if they’d won it.

They love hypotheticals too. They insist they’d have one European Cup if not for the ban, even though during that season, we won the double when they were apparently the best in Europe. In all likelihood, they’d have not won, but the ban lets them create this hypothetical reality where they would have been European champions if it wasn’t for the redshite.

[Ray K]

Is odds of 4/1 for Atletico to win in 90 minutes not a bit insane? That means for every 5 games they play at the Wanda, you'd expect just 1 home win? Seems a bit off.

[tubby]

Is odds of 4/1 for Atletico to win in 90 minutes not a bit insane? That means for every 5 games they play at the Wanda, you'd expect just 1 home win? Seems a bit off.

That's not what the odds mean, they'll fluctuate depending on the opposition.

[Ray K]

That's not what the odds mean, they'll fluctuate depending on the opposition.

I mean every 5 games that AM and City play. Only 1 win in 5? City's away record in Europe ain't all that.

[tubby]

I mean every 5 games that AM and City play. Only 1 win in 5? City's away record in Europe ain't all that.

That's not really what the odds represent either.  Don't forget City are already a goal up and won't need to come out and play, and Atletico are a naturally defensive team too.

[FiSh77]

Sorry but maybe I am not reading this right. In 1977 we were only the 2nd English club to win the European Cup. United in the 60's and Celtic (scottish) had won it.

In response to iska during that period you had to actually win your league to be there so in my view making it even harder back then.

Not 100% sure but think you might have been whooshed

[stevieG786]

how come Suarez can't get a game for Atletico?

[tubby]

how come Suarez can't get a game for Atletico?

He's not as good as their other two main forwards anymore.

[stevieG786]

He's not as good as their other two main forwards anymore.

really? i don't follow them and haven't seen Suarez play in a while, but just had a quick look and he is their top scorer (11) along with Correa (11) and has more goals then Felix (8 )

[oojason]

Atlético XI: Oblak; Savić, Felipe, Reinildo; Llorente, Koke, Kondogbia, Lemar, Lodi; Griezmann, Félix.
Subs: Lecomte, De Paul, Suarez, Correa, Wass, Matheus Cunha, Carrasco, Hermoso, Vrsaljko, Serrano.

Man City XI: Ederson; Walker, Stones, Laporte, Cancelo; Rodri, De Bruyne, Gündoğan; Mahrez, Foden, Bernardo.
Subs: Dias, Ake, Sterling, Grealish, Zinchenko, Steffen, Fernandinho, Carson, Delap, Edozie, McAtee, Lavia.

[FiSh77]

how come Suarez can't get a game for Atletico?

They're saving him, he's coming on in extra time to score the 120th minute winner

[PaulF]

That's not what the odds mean, they'll fluctuate depending on the opposition.

And depend on the perception of the punters. I often think there is money on a game to hedge happiness, ie city fans backing AM. Tends to happen when you have plastic fans where the money means as much as the win.
With that in mind, that seems quite generous. I guess the odds also mean a win in normal time. Not qualification for the semi final.

[Zaffarious]

phil foden was down for about 4mins and the ref blows exactly on 45:00.... im assuiming theres 7 mins of stoppage time at the end