Topic: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak

[mattD]

It amazes me how quick people are to slate this kid - yes, he's a kid - for 'lack of end product', yet are willing to bend over backwards for somebody like Diaz.

Honestly think some folk here automatically see a home grown talent and want him binned because he's not an exotic player from overseas. Yes, Doak needs to work on his end product but the raw talent is there to make him useful.

Dare I say it, he still links up better and presses better than somebody like Diaz anyway. Give him time and patience, he'll be worth more to us.

[Mighty_Red]

Obviously would rather he had a full preseason with Slot but at least he won't need the rest. Some game time for Scotland will do him good and Robbo will look after him.

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Suggestions that Scotland will be relying on him a bit more at the Euros, seems a bit much considering how long it's been since he last played, would be nice to see him coming on though, get his confidence and fitness back

[Dubred]

Fantastic opportunity for him to come off the bench for a few minutes here and there if he makes the final squad.

Unknown quantity to many he'll face and we know how fearless the lad is.

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Fantastic opportunity for him to come off the bench for a few minutes here and there if he makes the final squad.

Unknown quantity to many he'll face and we know how fearless the lad is.

Hopefully on the bench at least tonight

[terry_macss_perm]

Hopefully on the bench at least tonight

He missed training the other day. Is he even fit for tonight?

[dutchkop]

hopefully he gets some game time in warmups and makes the squad.. we need him to be fit and raring to go in August.

Good luck Ben!

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He missed training the other day. Is he even fit for tonight?

Apparently not

[Fromola]

He missed training the other day. Is he even fit for tonight?

What's Clarke playing at selecting him? He's barely kicked a ball since knee surgery in December and only started training again the last week of the season.

Just hope he doesn't break down after rushing back like Diaz last year. Hopefully he comes back unscathed and ready for pre-season.

If he does come back okay then it'll help fitness wise though.

[classycarra]

It's a pretty shocking indictment of their squad to be fair. Hopefully he gets some minutes and an opportunity to develop, but in the games he's played for us so far he hasn't shown an ability to adapt in-game to the challenges he's come up against. Hopefully he's over his injury troubles and gets a good loan next season, to help him establish to the best of his ability. He won't be getting many chances for minutes with us in the CL now but even in the league cup (outside of an injury crisis), I don't think

[Yorkykopite]

It's a pretty shocking indictment of their squad to be fair. Hopefully he gets some minutes and an opportunity to develop, but in the games he's played for us so far he hasn't shown an ability to adapt in-game to the challenges he's come up against. Hopefully he's over his injury troubles and gets a good loan next season, to help him establish to the best of his ability. He won't be getting many chances for minutes with us in the CL now but even in the league cup (outside of an injury crisis), I don't think

I don't agree. The Scottish squad does look poor but Doak's inclusion might also be a recognition that international football - including the Euros and World Cup - is a feeble thing compared to elite club football. So why not give him a go?

[classycarra]

I don't agree. The Scottish squad does look poor but Doak's inclusion might also be a recognition that international football - including the Euros and World Cup - is a feeble thing compared to elite club football. So why not give him a go?

I think your disagreement might be with Fromola. Because I agree, I hope he plays for them and develops (because at our much higher level, my guess is that there won't be many opportunities except via loan).

You'll definitely get no argument from me with regard to international football. It's such poor quality, especially at Scotland's level!

[Yorkykopite]

I think your disagreement might be with Fromola. Because I agree, I hope he plays for them and develops (because at our much higher level, my guess is that there won't be many opportunities except via loan).

You'll definitely get no argument from me with regard to international football. It's such poor quality, especially at Scotland's level!

Ah yes. For once I disagree with Fromola.....

[Fromola]

I don't agree. The Scottish squad does look poor but Doak's inclusion might also be a recognition that international football - including the Euros and World Cup - is a feeble thing compared to elite club football. So why not give him a go?

The argument against it is the fact he's been injured since last year and has only just started training again.

He'd only just turned 18 when he got the injury so Scotland don't need to be taking those kind of risks with him. He's got a lot of potential for us and Scotland but he's shown zero end product in a Liverpool shirt so far (not to be unexpected given his age and lack of experience).

[Yorkykopite]

The argument against it is the fact he's been injured since last year and has only just started training again.

But this bloke has provided the argument for it.......

If he does come back okay then it'll help fitness wise though.

[Sheer Magnetism]

It's a big squad this year so they're probably taking him to acclimatise him to the international tournament experience, a la Theo Walcott. There's no guarantee he even plays a minute.

[Eeyore]

It's a big squad this year so they're probably taking him to acclimatise him to the international tournament experience, a la Theo Walcott. There's no guarantee he even plays a minute.

Walcott is finished. They should take Antti Niemi he's not finished he's only 28.

[reddebs]

Been withdrawn 😕

[Fromola]

Nice one Clarke.

Stupid to pick him when he's been injured since last year. Let's hope he hasn't fucked his pre-season up.