Topic: Pre-Season Thread

[stockdam]

They’ve resorted to rugby tackles on Doak.

[RedBec1993]

I really do like Quansah, he definitely shouldn’t be given a chance.

[vicar]

Good old northern rail or whatever they are called now. Train cancelled back to lime street so get the train to Manchester and change there. Wonderful.

Pathetic as usual. That's probably doubling the distance!

[Wabaloolah]

Decent run out that

[Wabaloolah]

I really do like Quansah, he definitely shouldn’t be given a chance.

bit of an oxymoron there

[spider-neil]

Joe has been alright in preseason.

[RedBec1993]

bit of an oxymoron there

Difficulty multitasking ooops. Should*

[Draex]

Few tweaks and we're gonna do some lovely stuff.

[naYoRHa2b]

Main takeout from that is given our lack of options at 6 Mac Allister has to start there against Chelsea.

[Wabaloolah]

Difficulty multitasking ooops. Should*

ah welcome to my world!!

[tubby]

Main takeout from that is given our lack of options at 6 Mac Allister has to start there against Chelsea.

Yup, Mac Allister looks a lot better there than Jones, who is more suited to playing further forward anyway.

[Draex]

Main takeout from that is given our lack of options at 6 Mac Allister has to start there against Chelsea.

The thing is he actually played this position loads before. Reads the game very well, gets stuck in as well.

[lgvkarlos]

Our shape with Gomez, Matip and Quansah looks so much better.

We look more solid the minute Robbo comes off, really odd that our two strongest positions now look like a weakness.

[Jean Girard]

Elliot staking a claim to be back in for me. He's looked fantastic with limited minutes this pre season.

[disgraced cake]

He does some good crossing from right back does Joe.

Decent crosser of the ball from that right back position usually, set up a few for the first team there. He played a really nice ball to Curtis Jones from around the half way line with about 20 minutes to go there but he couldn't finish. Probably the better position for him at this moment in time.

[stockdam]

Subs played well….maybe not Nunez as he rarely got quality ball.

Not a bad performance but we need to obviously up the tempo which we will. I’m not sure that we have solved any of our defensive issues. It could be a case that we’ll need to score 3 each game.

Elliott and Doak have played well.

[Bobinhood]

Well

I enjoyed that a lot. 

[Wabaloolah]

We look more solid the minute Robbo comes off, really odd that our two strongest positions now look like a weakness.

there's an argument to be had for sticking Gomez there if we are sticking with Trent as an inverted full back which it looks like we are

[jillcwhomever]

Decent crosser of the ball from that right back position usually, set up a few for the first team there. He played a really nice ball to Curtis Jones from around the half way line with about 20 minutes to go there but he couldn't finish. Probably the better position for him at this moment in time.

Yes, it would make sense for him to continue there now.

[lgvkarlos]

there's an argument to be had for sticking Gomez there if we are sticking with Trent as an inverted full back which it looks like we are

Yep, don't think we should have Trent and Robbo on the pitch at the same time.

[SamLad]

Doak is a hell of a handful.

Harvey worked like hell, very sharp, very effective.

But hard to judge overall given the oppo.

[Max_powers]

Definitely look way more energetic in pre-season compared to last year. Doak looks like he could do a job as Salah's backup and maybe grow into that role.

We kind of look like the 17/18 Liverpool in the pre-season. Great pressing. Attack first mindset but lacking a few pieces to become a truly great team.

[lgvkarlos]

Doak is a hell of a handful.

Harvey worked like hell, very sharp, very effective.

But hard to judge overall given the oppo.

Bloody hell we have ridiculous attacking options off the bench.

[shank94]

I got a quick list/template ready if anyone is keen on rating individual player pre-seasons.

[Eeyore]

The thing is he actually played this position loads before. Reads the game very well, gets stuck in as well.

He hasn't played this position loads. He has played in a double pivot with a proper defensive midfield player alongside him.

Watching Trent and Mac playing as a double pivot in possession was like watching Gerrard and Alonso. Two exceptional deep-lying playmakers just absolutely bossing possession. The problem though is that neither of them had defensive instincts.

Mac is great on the ball and presses really well. The issue is that as soon as we lose the ball his instinct as an 8 is to press. That isn't what you require of a 6. The role of the 6 on a defensive transition is to instinctively know whether to back up the 8's on the press or to protect the centre backs.

[Higgins79]

Is the problem with the new system Robbo? What should become a ‘3’, is a lopsided 2.5 because he isn’t disciplined enough. The balance looked much better with Gomez.

[lgvkarlos]

Is the problem with the new system Robbo? What should become a ‘3’, is a lopsided 2.5 because he isn’t disciplined enough. The balance looked much better with Gomez.

Tsimikas and Quansah were also better

[Fromola]

It's only pre-season but we look as sharp going forward as we ever have under Klopp.

A lot to work on defensively but we're capable of tweaking things to be more solid. The midfield has now evolved from Fabinho/Henderson/Wijnaldum but obviously won't have the same solidity although can give you a bit more on the ball.

A fineline between tightening up a bit or being a turbo version Keegan's Newcastle or 13/14 Liverpool.

[Samie]

[Samie]

[Boaty McBoatface]

The new system seems to highlight Robbo's weaknesses and blunt his strengths.

[Rosario]

Is the problem with the new system Robbo? What should become a ‘3’, is a lopsided 2.5 because he isn’t disciplined enough. The balance looked much better with Gomez.

Is it him not being disciplined enough or the way he’s asking to be played though? Surely he wouldn’t be getting picked if he wasn’t doing what’s been asked of him?

Although I do agree it seems to be the weak point in this new setup. Would’ve loved to see Gomez alongside Konate and Virg at some stage in preseason and had a good look at playing a true back 3.

[lgvkarlos]

When was that? I don't remember them ever getting that close.

[Samie]

https://twitter.com/BenBocsak/status/1688642910009315328

One of the highlights from pre-season for #LFC has been Ben Doak.

The stand-out stat: He completed the most dribbles for #LFC in pre-season (10).

And he’s played about 75 less minutes than most senior players.

4/5 dribbles completed today. Electric in one vs one situations.

[shank94]

Pre Season template for those who are arsed, I might do this quick later:

Spoiler

GK-

Alisson:

Pitaluga:

Kelleher:

Adrian: NA
Mroezek: NA
Jaros: NA

DF-

Gomez:

Van Dijk:

Konate:

Tsimikas:

Robertson:

Matip:

Alexander-Arnold:

Quansah:

Mid-

Szoboszlai:

Mac Allister:

Jones:

Elliott:

Clark:

McConnell:

Frauendorf:


Attack-

Doak:

Diaz:

Nunez:

Salah:

Gakpo:

Jota:

Koumas:

Scanlon:

[close]

[Samie]

When was that? I don't remember them ever getting that close.

Camera angles makes it as though it was mate. 

[Fromola]

Is it him not being disciplined enough or the way he’s asking to be played though? Surely he wouldn’t be getting picked if he wasn’t doing what’s been asked of him?

Although I do agree it seems to be the weak point in this new setup. Would’ve loved to see Gomez alongside Konate and Virg at some stage in preseason and had a good look at playing a true back 3.

He wouldn't be if Chelsea would sell Colwill though (or we'd have got someone else capable in).

We haven't got many viable alternatives in the squad for that position.

[Larse]

Is the problem with the new system Robbo? What should become a ‘3’, is a lopsided 2.5 because he isn’t disciplined enough. The balance looked much better with Gomez.

 we also looked better defensively when Trent came off and Quansah/Matip/Gomez were the back three and Tsimikas inverted. Just seems like Robbo and Trent dont work together

[Elmo!]

When was that? I don't remember them ever getting that close.

Doak is small, the Darmstadt player is far away.

[Fromola]

we also looked better defensively when Trent came off and Quansah/Matip/Gomez were the back three and Tsimikas inverted. Just seems like Robbo and Trent dont work together

We need to sort out a proper structure at the back.