Topic: Jürgen Klopp

[meady1981]

For me, there’s no question anymore. He’s our greatest ever manager. The team we see now is completely in his image. He is the architect of who we are. He said at the beginning of this season that to win it would take 100 points. Every decision on player ability, fitness, game time, in-game management has been planned out exactly to reach that. The competence of this man, the charisma, the levity, his team around him and the players he has grouped together is beyond comparison. Shankly made Liverpool great, but Klopp has built something that has never been seen before and I don’t think will be seen again.

Soak it all in, when this man goes, no manager that follows will be able to live up to what’s happening as it’s all down to him. Nothing will compare for many years.

[Fernando_Torres_Was_Good]

He's our best manager in my lifetime - easily. (I'm 30).

Very much hope he stays for a very very long time.

[Reds Flag]

There could be no more perfect manager for our club.

[No666]

For me, there’s no question anymore. He’s our greatest ever manager. The team we see now is completely in his image. He is the architect of who we are. He said at the beginning of this season that to win it would take 100 points. Every decision on player ability, fitness, game time, in-game management has been planned out exactly to reach that. The competence of this man, the charisma, the levity, his team around him and the players he has grouped together is beyond comparison. Shankly made Liverpool great, but Klopp has built something that has never been seen before and I don’t think will be seen again.

Soak it all in, when this man goes, no manager that follows will be able to live up to what’s happening as it’s all down to him. Nothing will compare for many years.

Love Jurgen Klopp but when he wins two more European Cups, he might be in the running for greatest ever.

[rebel23]

He needs to win multiple CL's and titles before we can think of him as a great. I think he is writing history so hopefully the trophies will continue to come our way.

[rob1966]

For me, there’s no question anymore. He’s our greatest ever manager. The team we see now is completely in his image. He is the architect of who we are. He said at the beginning of this season that to win it would take 100 points. Every decision on player ability, fitness, game time, in-game management has been planned out exactly to reach that. The competence of this man, the charisma, the levity, his team around him and the players he has grouped together is beyond comparison. Shankly made Liverpool great, but Klopp has built something that has never been seen before and I don’t think will be seen again.

Soak it all in, when this man goes, no manager that follows will be able to live up to what’s happening as it’s all down to him. Nothing will compare for many years.

Behave and I wish people on here would show some respect and stop rewriting Liverpool history

[andy07]

When we get 21 titles and 8 European Cups he will be in the frame for the greatest. 

[Dazzer23]

He needs to win multiple CL's and titles before we can think of him as a great. I think he is writing history so hopefully the trophies will continue to come our way.

Bollox. Shanks, Paisley, Kenny, won trophies, they were great, make no mistake, but that was different times,  they weren’t up against clubs distorted by Russian oligarchs and corrupt oil rich states.

Klopp is up against them and embarrassing them...don’t care how many titles he ultimately wins, for what he’s done so far plants him firmly and squarely in the ‘great’ category and quite possibly sat top of that category smoking a big fat Cuban cigar

[meady1981]

Behave and I wish people on here would show some respect and stop rewriting Liverpool history

I’m not rewriting anything. It’s just my opinion if that’s ok Rob. HeS obviously no Shankly or Paisley or even Dalglish for many reasons. I’m talking the technical side of pushing a team to its utmost limits. I’m 40 years old, I’m not some recent premier league fan. My heart is in the past but I can’t deny that football 40 years ago is a shadow of what it is now. In fact I don’t even know why I stated him bring ‘the best ever’ I actually don’t give a shit. You can’t compare era’s. I stick by the fact though that we’ll never have it as good again for a long long time.

[Dim Glas]

Urghhh, hate stuff like that, and most of all because it's not fair on Kloppo to start making such claims either. Let him do his job.

He's amazing right now, that's all that matters.  Different eras and all that of course, which makes comparisons hard at the best of times.

[Samie]

He's the greatest manager in my lifetime but he's not THE greatest. Kloppo has to win a few more European Cups and League titles for him to take top spot. If he does by the time he leaves in 2024 then we can reopen this conversation.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Bollox. Shanks, Paisley, Kenny, won trophies, they were great, make no mistake, but that was different times,  they weren’t up against clubs distorted by Russian oligarchs and corrupt oil rich states.

Klopp is up against them and embarrassing them...don’t care how many titles he ultimately wins, for what he’s done so far plants him firmly and squarely in the ‘great’ category and quite possibly sat top of that category smoking a big fat Cuban cigar

That's bollocks,our greatest ever manager is Bob and the man with the biggest influence on the club is Shanks.

That's not to say that the German isn't great because he fucking is.

[KenJ1964]

I've been thinking about the FA Cup stance over the last week and for me I'm a little disappointed in our manager.

When I was younger I spent some time living in the south of France and people there were fond of the FA Cup and I know football supporters in other countries have enjoyed following the English FA Cup too.

We welcome foreign players and managers here, we go on to adore them and many of them all say playing or managing in England is something of a dream come true or an ambition realised for them.

If it's a dream come true why do they want to try and change the tradition of the FA Cup?

This is a competition that helps a hell of a lot of smaller clubs, it connects the big time football to the grass roots football, a small club like Shrewsbury getting a replay and coming to Anfield is something that will provide Shrews fans with a memory they forever remember.

Now we can't even show the respect to field a decent side or have our first team manager attend, Jurgen said he's "taking a stand to force a change" but with the quality we have both in our first team and fringe teams we should have really been able to beat a mid table League One side, the fact that we didn't says they deserve the reply and we should address it with professionalism.

I remember a few years ago when a certain Roberto Martinez of Everton criticised little Swansea for being defensive in a Premier League game, Gaurdiola has also criticised the smaller Premier League clubs for playing defensively against his expensive team, almost like the small teams should just let the big team win.

I love Jurgen and what he's done for us but to be trying to force changes in a traditional part of our game is wrong, no matter how many things you win does not give you the right to start trying to force changes, even Roberto Di Matteo won a Champions League.

Personally I would like to see us try and win everything we play in, we have plenty of quality to rotate, we are miles ahead in the league, I recall Rafa fielding a weaker team in the league to field a stronger one in a Champions League game - we are lucky enough to be in a position to be able to do that and still win the league, though we don't need to.

The FA Cup is prestigious and traditional, lets respect it, don't try to change it to make it easier for us and take the chance of smaller clubs getting a big day out... it's already a disgrace that VAR is only used for Premier League teams at home in the FA Cup when it should be used for all clubs or no clubs.

I just hope that Jurgen isn't getting bored, 2 CL finals, winning the CL and now most likely winning the league, the motivation may fade, if Manchester City win the Champions League this season I think Guardiola would go because I think his motivation has already faded.

[duvva 💅]

I've been thinking about the FA Cup stance over the last week and for me I'm a little disappointed in our manager.

When I was younger I spent some time living in the south of France and people there were fond of the FA Cup and I know football supporters in other countries have enjoyed following the English FA Cup too.

We welcome foreign players and managers here, we go on to adore them and many of them all say playing or managing in England is something of a dream come true or an ambition realised for them.

If it's a dream come true why do they want to try and change the tradition of the FA Cup?

This is a competition that helps a hell of a lot of smaller clubs, it connects the big time football to the grass roots football, a small club like Shrewsbury getting a replay and coming to Anfield is something that will provide Shrews fans with a memory they forever remember.

Now we can't even show the respect to field a decent side or have our first team manager attend, Jurgen said he's "taking a stand to force a change" but with the quality we have both in our first team and fringe teams we should have really been able to beat a mid table League One side, the fact that we didn't says they deserve the reply and we should address it with professionalism.

I remember a few years ago when a certain Roberto Martinez of Everton criticised little Swansea for being defensive in a Premier League game, Gaurdiola has also criticised the smaller Premier League clubs for playing defensively against his expensive team, almost like the small teams should just let the big team win.

I love Jurgen and what he's done for us but to be trying to force changes in a traditional part of our game is wrong, no matter how many things you win does not give you the right to start trying to force changes, even Roberto Di Matteo won a Champions League.

Personally I would like to see us try and win everything we play in, we have plenty of quality to rotate, we are miles ahead in the league, I recall Rafa fielding a weaker team in the league to field a stronger one in a Champions League game - we are lucky enough to be in a position to be able to do that and still win the league, though we don't need to.

The FA Cup is prestigious and traditional, lets respect it, don't try to change it to make it easier for us and take the chance of smaller clubs getting a big day out... it's already a disgrace that VAR is only used for Premier League teams at home in the FA Cup when it should be used for all clubs or no clubs.

I just hope that Jurgen isn't getting bored, 2 CL finals, winning the CL and now most likely winning the league, the motivation may fade, if Manchester City win the Champions League this season I think Guardiola would go because I think his motivation has already faded.

Why would you think he’s getting bored? He’s just signed a contract extension. We’ve done the FA Cup conversation to death, he’s explained why we’re doing what we’re doing. It’s the fault of the authorities for putting a replay date in the break period. The only ones disrespecting these competition are the incompetent authorities that run them.

[newterp]

I've been thinking about the FA Cup stance over the last week and for me I'm a little disappointed in our manager.

When I was younger I spent some time living in the south of France and people there were fond of the FA Cup and I know football supporters in other countries have enjoyed following the English FA Cup too.

We welcome foreign players and managers here, we go on to adore them and many of them all say playing or managing in England is something of a dream come true or an ambition realised for them.

If it's a dream come true why do they want to try and change the tradition of the FA Cup?

This is a competition that helps a hell of a lot of smaller clubs, it connects the big time football to the grass roots football, a small club like Shrewsbury getting a replay and coming to Anfield is something that will provide Shrews fans with a memory they forever remember.

Now we can't even show the respect to field a decent side or have our first team manager attend, Jurgen said he's "taking a stand to force a change" but with the quality we have both in our first team and fringe teams we should have really been able to beat a mid table League One side, the fact that we didn't says they deserve the reply and we should address it with professionalism.

I remember a few years ago when a certain Roberto Martinez of Everton criticised little Swansea for being defensive in a Premier League game, Gaurdiola has also criticised the smaller Premier League clubs for playing defensively against his expensive team, almost like the small teams should just let the big team win.

I love Jurgen and what he's done for us but to be trying to force changes in a traditional part of our game is wrong, no matter how many things you win does not give you the right to start trying to force changes, even Roberto Di Matteo won a Champions League.

Personally I would like to see us try and win everything we play in, we have plenty of quality to rotate, we are miles ahead in the league, I recall Rafa fielding a weaker team in the league to field a stronger one in a Champions League game - we are lucky enough to be in a position to be able to do that and still win the league, though we don't need to.

The FA Cup is prestigious and traditional, lets respect it, don't try to change it to make it easier for us and take the chance of smaller clubs getting a big day out... it's already a disgrace that VAR is only used for Premier League teams at home in the FA Cup when it should be used for all clubs or no clubs.

I just hope that Jurgen isn't getting bored, 2 CL finals, winning the CL and now most likely winning the league, the motivation may fade, if Manchester City win the Champions League this season I think Guardiola would go because I think his motivation has already faded.

We are going to field a decent side. It will be a side minus a few players that beat Everton in the 3rd round.

Also - why doesn't the FA Cup show us some respect and not schedule replays during an agreed upon winter break?

And finally - the prestige of the FA Cup disappeared a while back.

[mikeb58]

Klopp did respect the FA Cup, he put a side out more than capable of beating Shrewsbury and was obviously very disappointed we didn't do so. You are talking like we have thrown the replay and lost it already, I still think we will go through. Meanwhile the first team squad are having the break they where promised and fully deserve.

[afc tukrish]

Behave and I wish people on here would show some respect and stop rewriting Liverpool history

Plus, Bob and Bill were much more fashionable...

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Why would you think he’s getting bored? He’s just signed a contract extension. We’ve done the FA Cup conversation to death, he’s explained why we’re doing what we’re doing. It’s the fault of the authorities for putting a replay date in the break period. The only ones disrespecting these competition are the incompetent authorities that run them.

More hope than thought I reckon 

[McSquared]

He’s up there with the greats, and we know who they are, but why even compare them?

[WhereAngelsPlay]

He’s up there with the greats, and we know who they are, but why even compare them?

Aye,he's on the banner and that's all that matters.

[thejbs]

I just hope that Jurgen isn't getting bored, 2 CL finals, winning the CL and now most likely winning the league, the motivation may fade, if Manchester City win the Champions League this season I think Guardiola would go because I think his motivation has already faded.

In what universe do top managers get 'bored' and lose motivation?!?

[Something Worse]

In what universe do top managers get 'bored' and lose motivation?!?

Arguably the best manager in the world, me, constantly gives up on FM saves after conquering it all.

[So… Howard Philips]

We are going to field a decent side. It will be a side minus a few players that beat Everton in the 3rd round.

Also - why doesn't the FA Cup show us some respect and not schedule replays during an agreed upon winter break?

And finally - the prestige of the FA Cup disappeared a while back.

There's been a couple of letters in the Echo following the theme of disrespecting the FA Cup, none of which have mentioned the lack of coordination between the FA and the PL and which have a common theme of criticising Klopp. A but like this post.

The FA Cup was diminished when the FA allowed United to dip out and then moved semi finals to Wembley rather than the traditional venues throughout the country.

[jillcwhomever]

There's been a couple of letters in the Echo following the theme of disrespecting the FA Cup, none of which have mentioned the lack of coordination between the FA and the PL and which have a common theme of criticising Klopp. A but like this post.

The FA Cup was diminished when the FA allowed United to dip out and then moved semi finals to Wembley rather than the traditional venues throughout the country.

A bit of a strange first post, I would say.

[Cu Chulainn]

In what universe do top managers get 'bored' and lose motivation?!?

Bored is perhaps not the right word, but I can see his point. After winning everything consistently it's only human to drop off a little bit and lose a bit of that desperate hunger that drove them towards success in the first place. That's been part of Barcelona's problem over the years and is probably a factor in Man City's troubles this season. It's true of players and probably of managers too (of course you sometimes get freaks like Ferguson who go on for decades). If we were to win the next few leagues and a CL or too then you couldn't expect Jurgen to have the same level of burning desire that he does now.

[duvva 💅]

A bit of a strange first post, I would say.

Been a few lately

[CHOPPER]

I've been thinking about the FA Cup stance over the last week and for me I'm a little disappointed in our manager.

When I was younger I spent some time living in the south of France and people there were fond of the FA Cup and I know football supporters in other countries have enjoyed following the English FA Cup too.

We welcome foreign players and managers here, we go on to adore them and many of them all say playing or managing in England is something of a dream come true or an ambition realised for them.

If it's a dream come true why do they want to try and change the tradition of the FA Cup?

This is a competition that helps a hell of a lot of smaller clubs, it connects the big time football to the grass roots football, a small club like Shrewsbury getting a replay and coming to Anfield is something that will provide Shrews fans with a memory they forever remember.

Now we can't even show the respect to field a decent side or have our first team manager attend, Jurgen said he's "taking a stand to force a change" but with the quality we have both in our first team and fringe teams we should have really been able to beat a mid table League One side, the fact that we didn't says they deserve the reply and we should address it with professionalism.

I remember a few years ago when a certain Roberto Martinez of Everton criticised little Swansea for being defensive in a Premier League game, Gaurdiola has also criticised the smaller Premier League clubs for playing defensively against his expensive team, almost like the small teams should just let the big team win.

I love Jurgen and what he's done for us but to be trying to force changes in a traditional part of our game is wrong, no matter how many things you win does not give you the right to start trying to force changes, even Roberto Di Matteo won a Champions League.

Personally I would like to see us try and win everything we play in, we have plenty of quality to rotate, we are miles ahead in the league, I recall Rafa fielding a weaker team in the league to field a stronger one in a Champions League game - we are lucky enough to be in a position to be able to do that and still win the league, though we don't need to.

The FA Cup is prestigious and traditional, lets respect it, don't try to change it to make it easier for us and take the chance of smaller clubs getting a big day out... it's already a disgrace that VAR is only used for Premier League teams at home in the FA Cup when it should be used for all clubs or no clubs.

I just hope that Jurgen isn't getting bored, 2 CL finals, winning the CL and now most likely winning the league, the motivation may fade, if Manchester City win the Champions League this season I think Guardiola would go because I think his motivation has already faded.

You massive piss flap. Grow a fucking set for fucks sake.

[Samie]

The mods have opened the RAWK gates, prepare for bellendry to walk among us.

[jonnypb]

I've been thinking about the FA Cup stance over the last week and for me I'm a little disappointed in our manager.

I just hope that Jurgen isn't getting bored

Great first post.... 

Bored is perhaps not the right word, but I can see his point. After winning everything consistently it's only human to drop off a little bit and lose a bit of that desperate hunger that drove them towards success in the first place. That's been part of Barcelona's problem over the years and is probably a factor in Man City's troubles this season. It's true of players and probably of managers too (of course you sometimes get freaks like Ferguson who go on for decades). If we were to win the next few leagues and a CL or too then you couldn't expect Jurgen to have the same level of burning desire that he does now.

Klopp hasn't won everything consistently yet though.  He's many many many years off that stature and to even put Klopp and lack of desire in the same sentence is ludicrous!  Klopp is a professional, I'd expect him to have the same burning desire now as he does in another 10 years time, no matter how many trophies he's won.

I think some people have been on the sherbet dippers tonight.

[Cu Chulainn]

Great first post.... 

Klopp hasn't won everything consistently yet though.  He's many many many years off that stature and to even put Klopp and lack of desire in the same sentence is ludicrous!  Klopp is a professional, I'd expect him to have the same burning desire now as he does in another 10 years time, no matter how many trophies he's won.

I think some people have been on the sherbet dippers tonight.

I know he hasn't yet, but if he had. Of course he'd do the best he could, he's an exceptional professional, but he's also human. It would be unrealistic to expect anyone to be as full of desire about winning their 5th title as about their 1st.

And for the record, I'm not endorsing that guy's post (I didn't even see the whole thing until after I wrote my first post), but I can see his point with that little bit I addressed.

[Peabee]

to be honest he'll effectively have a week off in March for the international break as with the previous ones. Yeah it'll do him good but it'll also go down very badly in this country.

We need to back him though ultimately. He's doing right by his players.

He won’t be having a break during the international break. He’ll be working with the rest of the squad and planning for the games ahead.

[Peabee]

I've been thinking about the FA Cup stance over the last week and for me I'm a little disappointed in our manager.

When I was younger I spent some time living in the south of France and people there were fond of the FA Cup and I know football supporters in other countries have enjoyed following the English FA Cup too.

We welcome foreign players and managers here, we go on to adore them and many of them all say playing or managing in England is something of a dream come true or an ambition realised for them.

If it's a dream come true why do they want to try and change the tradition of the FA Cup?

This is a competition that helps a hell of a lot of smaller clubs, it connects the big time football to the grass roots football, a small club like Shrewsbury getting a replay and coming to Anfield is something that will provide Shrews fans with a memory they forever remember.

Now we can't even show the respect to field a decent side or have our first team manager attend, Jurgen said he's "taking a stand to force a change" but with the quality we have both in our first team and fringe teams we should have really been able to beat a mid table League One side, the fact that we didn't says they deserve the reply and we should address it with professionalism.

I remember a few years ago when a certain Roberto Martinez of Everton criticised little Swansea for being defensive in a Premier League game, Gaurdiola has also criticised the smaller Premier League clubs for playing defensively against his expensive team, almost like the small teams should just let the big team win.

I love Jurgen and what he's done for us but to be trying to force changes in a traditional part of our game is wrong, no matter how many things you win does not give you the right to start trying to force changes, even Roberto Di Matteo won a Champions League.

Personally I would like to see us try and win everything we play in, we have plenty of quality to rotate, we are miles ahead in the league, I recall Rafa fielding a weaker team in the league to field a stronger one in a Champions League game - we are lucky enough to be in a position to be able to do that and still win the league, though we don't need to.

The FA Cup is prestigious and traditional, lets respect it, don't try to change it to make it easier for us and take the chance of smaller clubs getting a big day out... it's already a disgrace that VAR is only used for Premier League teams at home in the FA Cup when it should be used for all clubs or no clubs.

I just hope that Jurgen isn't getting bored, 2 CL finals, winning the CL and now most likely winning the league, the motivation may fade, if Manchester City win the Champions League this season I think Guardiola would go because I think his motivation has already faded.

Get thee to buggery, you WUM.

[Crosby Nick]

The mods have opened the RAWK gates, prepare for bellendry to walk among us.

Oi! I’ve been here for years.

[Ghost Town]

That's a belter of a first post KenJ1964. Probably sustain a 100 page thread by itself, that could. Content fitting for this new post-Brexit age, too. Damn that disrespectful bosch coming over here and dancing on the grave of our traditions, etc

Traditions such as the FA and PL not knowing their arses from their elbows. Proper British, that. Gord bless the Queen mum!

[jooneyisdagod]

#MaketheFACupGreatAgain

[kavah]

#MaketheFACupGreatAgain

[smutchin]

He won’t be having a break during the international break. He’ll be working with the rest of the squad and planning for the games ahead.

No, he will actually be taking a break. Melwood will be closed for a week.

He said in an interview that each player has been given individual training plans for the week off, but just light work to keep their legs ticking over, nothing involving kicking a ball.

[elbow]

Jürgen Klopp
Jürgen Fucking Klopp
And I just can’t explain
Firmino, Salah, Maneeeeeeh!

[Doc Red]

We are going to field a decent side. It will be a side minus a few players that beat Everton in the 3rd round.

Also - why doesn't the FA Cup show us some respect and not schedule replays during an agreed upon winter break?

And finally - the prestige of the FA Cup disappeared a while back.

It's quite surprising the narrative around this fixture. As you mention, we're not fielding a below par team. Why is the assumption that we'll definitely lose?
After all the disrespect flung our way, implying that we're showing a lack of respect by not fielding our best side, will be fantastic when we win it anyway. Then all the discussion would have been moot.
I've got a feeling the younger lads are hungry and determined to prove they're good enough after a week of hearing all the nonsense. I'm predicting a one sided match for us.

[rojo para la vida]

Reading back, a claim was made that Klopp is the best ever Liverpool manager, for me that's bollocks but if he sees out his contract and the Champion's Wall has a few more numbers, it will be a worthy debate at the time.
I have decent memory of the last half of Shanks reign and the comparisons between him and Klopp are many. Charisma, humour, focus, a gift for delegation, all coupled with a brain that in football terms was/is as big as Einstein's. They both had/have something evangelistic about them. Who can ever forget the two fans kissing Shankly's feet at the '74 cup final. (I just tried to find video and Googled, 'fans kissing Shankly's feet' and a load of gay porn videos have appeared. The missus is currently giving me a worrying look.) 
What I know for certain is fuck following him, I would swerve that gig at all costs. Whoever does it will have the most difficult job in football. Stevie are yer mad?