Topic: Coutinho

[Hazell]

if he keeps up his form won't be surprised with Madrid coming in for him the summer (or next Jan) natural replacement for Bale.

You've said this about three or four times already. It's not complicated enough that we haven't all cracked what you mean.

[FranklyRed]

https://twitter.com/Chris78Williams/status/949697616241156096

Chris Williams @Chris78Williams

Mundo reporting Coutinho used his own money to prop up a deal bankrolled by Nike. If true, that’s a high level of collaboration

Yes, that was already rumouring around last days. Also he did pay himself around 15 mln Euros to make the deal (no signing fee at Barcelona and probably the 'loyalty bonus' LFC by asking for a transfer)

Qatar paid for Neymar, Nike with the Coutinho error... and wanting him ... makes sense.
He will sell a lot of shirts etc.

[Fordy]

Just don't get this:

We're 4th in the league, in the CL and in the FA Cup.

I'm at a lost to why the player wanted to leave now and if more so why we let our best player go now.

This is madness! Total madness.

[Clint Eastwood]

My nana just tweeted me...

Eh? Alright then. Ignore everything. Hopefully he's back from injury in time for City.

[Purple Red]

This post is just totally bizarre. It's hardly "bedwettery" to be upset at the loss of one of the best players on the planet. And then you go on to boast as if 4th and the 2nd round of the CL is some sort of remarkable achievement, it's nice progress from recent years but we need to be reaching Barcelona's level, not selling them our best players and be like "this is great, we got a big fee and come 4th".

And it's not about Arsenal and Spurs, we should have eyes on City and Utd not the two nothing clubs from London.

One of the best players on the planet. [emoji23]

Behave.

[Szemerényi]

This  is like breaking up with your GF, but before she goes she arrives to your house with two supermodels for one last round of hide the banana.

Is that a good or a bad thing?

[The G in Gerrard]

Not surprised. Always seemed likely to happen this month.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

See ya fella. The Winter Olympics might make you happy in a couple of week, see what fun you can get out of that.

bet the answers ''None''

[Dim Glas]

Good lord the drama queens in this thread.

"The club needs a set of bollocks!"
"We're a selling club!"
"We're a laughing stock!"
"If only we were more like City, but not entirely!"
"I'm done!"

We just got the 2nd highest transfer fee for a player who didn't want to be here and may have feigned an injury to show how sulky he was about it. And I do not understand the complaint of "We always sell our best players!" Who have we sold in the last 5 years besides Suarez? Serious question, because posters are making it sound like every transfer window, we sell our best players. If anything, we have a tendency to overpay, but you know what? Business is business. We knew this was coming and we stood our ground when Barca tried to bully us into a shit price. If anyone needs to grow a set, it's a section of the fan base who react like stroppy children.

and not only the feigning injury, but the clear attempt to derail Liverpool by throwing his strop and transfer request just before our CL qualifier, with the intent being that Liverpool wouldn't qualify, thus making his exit easier.

Yes it's crap that good players get sold, but sometimes it goes beyond that, and this is one of these cases.  For a player to have not 1% respect for his teammates, manager and the club, let alone the fans, means there is no way forward with that player. And all done in the most cowardly way, hiding behind his brothers.

Move on.

[wemmick]

ffs, we are making a big big mistake here. I wouldn't have sold him in January whatever people are trying to argue, we cannot replace him with a player of his caliber this month...we just fucked up on this one, we fucked up big time.

I hope Klopp and the club have a plan, otherwise this whole story doesn't make sense to me.

Not sure about that. We'll have 105m in cash. 99% of clubs will sell their player tomorrow if we offer anywhere near that much upfront.

[Nick110581]

Just don't get this:

We're 4th in the league, in the CL and in the FA Cup.

I'm at a lost to why the player wanted to leave now and if more so why we let our best player go now.

This is madness! Total madness.

Best you get it as he’s gone

[Irakla]

Imagine if he had run down his contract like Sanchez and Ozil are doing right now, guess we should be thankful to Michael Edwards for tying him down for another 5 years last year, which gave us an upper hand in negotiations, and we are in much better situation now than we have ever been when Suarez and Torres left, I have put all my trust into our management team.

[LFC when it suits]

£105m guaranteed, £4.4m every 25 games for first 100 games, £4.4m for the first two times they qualify for the CL, then £4.4m if they win the CL.

So pretty much all but £4.4m guaranteed to happen.

That’s a big chunk of money. Shit timing, but big chunk of money.

That's only 135.8m.

We are selling a player who wants to join a Spanish giant and who doesn't want to be here. 4th place, and CL last 16 IS a remarkable achievement for US. Do you not remember we had barely been in the CL for years before this year?

This acting like we've been a massive club for the last few years still is bizarre. Why fans can't see that 4th place, last 16 of the CL, spending a world record amount of money on a defender ISN'T progress for a club who have barely scratched the CL in the last 10 years, and were close to going under a few years ago, is beyond me.

£142m for a player who wants out isn't giving up on reaching a higher level. The only people waving the white flag are hysterical fans.

We should be looking to win the CL this season. With all due respect to Porto, we should be favourites to get to the QFs. After that, there is only 4 games to the final. We are 5x European Champions. Once we are in the CL, we are always in with a shout of winning it.

[Paul JH]

The way some are carrying off you'd think he was one of the best players we've ever had. Not even fit to lace the boots of the top ten.

Media sheep. Can any red honestly say that when he's not played we've missed him dearly? Or that we did not too bad without him too? Good player, but I don't think we were shite when he wasn't playing.

[FinnanTastic]

If he leaves, which is increasingly likely, I can only wish him the best of luck as an individual for all he gave the club besides the feigning injury and sulking he stiill gave everything the last few months.

[Kopenhagen]

If he leaves, which is increasingly likely, I can only wish him the best of luck as an individual for all he gave the club besides the feigning injury and sulking he stiill gave everything the last few months.

And quit on us at the first opportunity.

[The Final Third]

I’m done, it’s been fun lads. This club died when hicks and gillett ran them into the ground. We’re just a profit centre now. Can’t compete with the richer clubs so I’m gonna save myself a lot of heartbreak and give up now.

I've had a few of these moments over the years.

I always come back.

Hope you do too friendo.

[PIPA23]

Just don't get this:

We're 4th in the league, in the CL and in the FA Cup.

I'm at a lost to why the player wanted to leave now and if more so why we let our best player go now.

This is madness! Total madness.

because the money they pay now will look cheap after world cup.

we should have put him out of the team, untill he deciedes to help us with win FA Cup and Champions League.

but i guess the club and Klopp know better and have alternatives ready to help us fill the void after Coutinho.

[DangerScouse]

Should we expect an open letter?

[Purple Red]

Coutinho is infinitely more replaceable than Suarez and Torres and we survived without the latter two. Also, allow me to repeat, he doesn't want to play for Liverpool. Bizarre that people are railing against our soulless capitalist owners who are destroying the spirit of the club because they sold a player who felt no affection for the spirit of Liverpool FC. Cognitive dissonance.

[payback]

I think we're mad to sell him in mid-season with the CL and when he'd have no choice but to play with a world cup coming up BUT I trust Jurgen Klopp to do what he thinks is best. We could end up a better all round team than we have been and no-one can see how this will play out yet. We've made an enormous profit on him so lets see where we are come Jan 31st.

[MobileBayRed]

Media sheep. Can any red honestly say that when he's not played we've missed him dearly? Or that we did not too bad without him too? Good player, but I don't think we were shite when he wasn't playing.

He's a very good player, hard to replace his exact skill set with one player, but pretty much agree with this.  Add in that the Club is in a much better place to lose Coutinho than we were when we lost Torres or Suarez. 

[RK7]

What can he do about it?

Southampton are a midtable selling club.

We're a selling club, most clubs are.

[harrylfc]

Pleased it’s sorted one way or another...

[mattD]

As for Coutinho, I'm disappointed we're losing such a talent. But I'm indifferent towards the guy himself and neither wish him well nor harm in the next phase of his career.

He's irrelevant to us now. He can't be called a legend considering his behaviour in the summer while being paid a handsome wage in the process, and his eagerness to throw a spanner in the works once again this winter sticks in the throat personally.

There's no affinity towards the guy. A marvelous player and one who has undoubtedly contributed to helping to take us back from the doldrums. For that, I will be grateful. But there's no affinity with the guy's personality - the modern player rarely has a connection to football clubs or the immediate community that they are playing for, such is the way that they are encumbered by the lifestyle bubble the operate in. Obviously, local heroes like Gerrard or Carra will forever be revered because they subconsciously get it, they know they're not just playing for a club called Liverpool, but for the city and their perception of it.

There will always be players who come to the club and leave, yet retain respect and empathy towards the fans, but they are the exception rather than the rule in todays game.

It is what it is. A great piece of business and a great player, but not a legend. A loss on the field, but no loss in spirit.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Life goes on but the 'HE WAS SHIT ANYWAY' shouts are pretty embarrassing. He's probably in the top 30 in the world right now. Even the Manc Guardian had him at 24 in their top 100.

We will be a worse team without him, which is why it hurts.

Doesn't mean we won't get better.

Also doesn't mean we should cack our pants that he's fucked off.

Somewhere in the middle. On an island called 'sensible reaction'.

[arab88]

Not sure about that. We'll have 105m in cash. 99% of clubs will sell their player tomorrow if we offer anywhere near that much upfront.

I don't think all clubs would do that, try and get Aguero, Hazard or Kane for the same amount of money, in January, and you will understand what I mean.

We have nearly no chance to get a player who's as good as him and can play in the champions league this season...no chance. I don't know if you realize it or not, we have just lost OUR BEST PLAYER.

I just hope The club and Klopp have something in mind. Really.

[Alan_X]

It was enormously under value, derisory offer. Nice spin though

£142 million pounds is ‘enormously? under value? What planet do you live on? 

[Red Beret]

Some right fannies on here.

Personally I'm looking forward to who we're bringing in.  Will almost certainly green light further transfer business for us in this window. 

[sminp]

£142 million pounds is ‘enormously? under value? What planet do you live on? 

He's on about the other offer last summer

[BER]

Importance of transfer fees when spending - zero.

Importance of transfer fees when receiving - everything.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Should we expect an open letter?

Sorry Reds but my heart will go on...blah blah blah...remember my goals...blah blah...YNWA RIP LOL...eh Luis, pass the yerba mate...

[coolbyrne]

Media sheep. Can any red honestly say that when he's not played we've missed him dearly? Or that we did not too bad without him too? Good player, but I don't think we were shite when he wasn't playing.

Would like to see more specifics, but a poster said we won 10 of 12 games that he didn't play in.

[DonkeyWan]

Fuck me but Barca must be massively in debt.

[The G in Gerrard]

Just don't get this:

We're 4th in the league, in the CL and in the FA Cup.

I'm at a lost to why the player wanted to leave now and if more so why we let our best player go now.

This is madness! Total madness.

Maybe the club asked for 6 months to get rid of player who didn't want to be here and get a replacement?

[Igor Tripod Biscan]

Guillem Balague saying that after last nights match, Florentino Pérez said he is a big fan of Van Dyke and he looks like he should live in Madrid with his polo neck style

[Tumbleweed]

Funny how we managed to keep Suarez that extra season, but we've not managed to keep a hold of Coutinho. I'm not impressed with him, and I'm disappointed with the club, but we've accepted Barca's offer and offloaded him. I expect Klopp wasn't happy and wanted rid. If that's the case then good riddance.

Cou seemed too diminutive to be a true Klopp player. An incredibly talented individual yes, but he could be bullied out of games. Our midfield has looked seriously weak at times. The team always comes before individuals and I expect Klopp will now find someone who better fits his team dynamic.

All truth be told I'd be a lot happier about this if it happened this coming Summer, but as it is. Fuck him.

[supaerheraw]

If he leaves, which is increasingly likely, I can only wish him the best of luck as an individual for all he gave the club besides the feigning injury and sulking he stiill gave everything the last few months.

He obviously did it for the World Cup.

[FranklyRed]

Coutinho is infinitely more replaceable than Suarez and Torres and we survived without the latter two. Also, allow me to repeat, he doesn't want to play for Liverpool. Bizarre that people are railing against our soulless capitalist owners who are destroying the spirit of the club because they sold a player who felt no affection for the spirit of Liverpool FC. Cognitive dissonance.

Only do not sign Andy Carroll ;-)

[RobbieRedman]

£142 million pounds is ‘enormously? under value? What planet do you live on? 

No, I was talking about their summer offer.