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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #440 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:18 pm »
We need to win the group to have a good chance in the next round.
Plus, if we had won the first two, like we should have, we could have rested some players against Maribor. I don't Klopp will dare that now.
We don't need to win the group. We could still get a top side in the second round even if we win the group.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #441 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:21 pm »
Firmino is not a number 9 despite what his shirt says
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #442 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:22 pm »
I’d honestly fine the lot of them after that, absolutely disgraceful performance.

Firmino and Can really stood out as the crappest of the crap, and that’s some going. Sturridge and Salah missing chances that pub players could score. Just mind blowing. I’m not sure it’s possible that we play a poorer side this season, and they do that...?

I hope he’s furious and tears into them after that because questions need to be asked of the attitude of a lot of these players.

spot on...wages should be donated to Zoe's Place......pisstake of a performance
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #443 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:28 pm »
Same as against Sevilla. We played a good game. The result is OK. But we should have won.

A few points:

If it wasn't obvious on Saturday (it was) then Coutinho is officially back. I will never figure out why he isn't better at taking corners.

Karius should have saved the freekick. I know it's not his side but it's so far in the middle he should be there. I like a lot about him but somehow he seems afraid of long distance shots. It's like he's having problem reading them.

Salah should have scored.

Mané was amazing in the first half. I'm a bit worried about his stamina at the moment though. He seems to play fantastic first halfs and then fade away some (I understand the sub today). Then, on a lesser scale, he's not the only one fading late on in the game though.

Firmino is making scoring look difficult right now.

We had a few great counter attacks we should have executed better.

If Sturridge had scored that volley...

On another note. Their reserve keeper didn't make a single mistake. Have we scouted him?  ;)
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #444 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:31 pm »
Should be cruising with six points after two games but now it's not going to be easy.
This is why Bobby has been compared so often to Luis Garcia. When he's on he's magic but when he's not he can be utter shite. Should have been taken off at half time.
As for their goal, fuck me, all he had to do was get it on target and it was in.
Had so many clear cut chances it's criminal that we didn't get the win.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #445 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:32 pm »
In a more positive note, how good was Henderson tonight?! Boss.

Yeah, him and Moreno were really good.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #446 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:34 pm »
He tried to win it all by himself instead of passing to team mates who were better place.

Yup...is it because he isnt starting and wants to score to say, see, play me?
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #447 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:40 pm »
You can talk about missed chances all you want this game falls on Karius and Klopp.  He should not have started.  Sick of the excuses too, not good enough all around but at least if Klopp makes the right decision we get 3 points.  I have no clue why he started Karius it really makes no sense and there is no reason for it.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #448 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:47 pm »
Firmino needed to come off about 25 minutes before the end of the game but didn't. He had an absolute stinker. Mane instead though??

Karius inability to save the central free-kick just means the keeper situation will continue to make headlines which we don't need.

Why was Daniel Sturridge kept on in the summer? He's not even half the player he was 3 or 4 years ago and doesnt fit Klopp's style.

This team badly lacks a spine. A keeper, a centre back, (Keita) and a PROPER centre forward like Lewandowski.
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #449 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:50 pm »
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #450 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:54 pm »
Its lack of effort, poor finishing, players switching of, not looking up, trying to hard at times.

lack of effort from trying too hard at times?

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #451 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:57 pm »
Eh? We're destroying teams match after match. Only thing letting us down right now is our finishing. If we win this weekend, we'll be back on 2 points per game, which is top 4 form when we're in a finishing rut.

Yeah we totally murdered Spartak 1-1. Unlucky. Just unlucky. Definitely good enough just unlucky... all the time.
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #452 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:59 pm »
Maribor away next isn't it ?
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #453 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:01 pm »
So a team can't be both good and unlucky?

Poor finishing isn't unlucky
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #454 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:08 pm »
Same shit, different day.
Some of our players are just the most infuriating to watch, it's like at key moments they just absolutely lose their shit and forget that they are actually professional footballers. Just executing a simple pass is beyond them at times and I have got no idea why, it frustrates me and completely baffles me at the same time.

This team is blowing my mind......and not in a good way
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #455 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:09 pm »
When were we crap in our box? They didn't even get in it?
It's just the thing to say. They did nothing in our box. That's all on our forwards.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #456 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:16 pm »
We'll still qualify, probably not first. And Arsenal fans will tell you that finishing first can fuck you up too.
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #457 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:18 pm »
We concede in every match we play. We should just start games already 1 or 2 down so we know what we're up against from the start. It's beyong sickening now.

We shouldnt have conceded that goal. Can made a brainless decision amongst a career of brainless decisions from him and Karius shows that not only can he not catch but he cannot save either.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #458 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:20 pm »
What did he do that was so boss?
He put in loads of quality balls. Or do you want to stick to the narrative that he only passes backwards?

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #459 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:20 pm »
When were we crap in our box? They didn't even get in it?

Keeper hasn't saved a thing since he joined.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #460 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:21 pm »
Stopped playing as a team,  everyone wanted to try win it themselves but were too busy trying not to drown in the cesspit of desperation.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #461 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:30 pm »
Been happening all season. Lack of concentration from our attack and our defense. Like none of them can be arsed. Its not good enough at the moment. Needs to turn this bad spell around.

Can we stop this sort of shit please...I have never seen a liverpool team undr Klopp that looks like it can't be arsed.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #462 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:32 pm »
:lmao state of some of these replies.

You'd think they dominated us.
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #463 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:33 pm »
Fucking clueless, every bit as bad as the 2014-15 CL campaign. If the team is consistently playing less than the sum of its parts, when do we start to question the manager?

Karius not good enough. Can should fuck off to Juventus as he so clearly wants to be there. Ref was a disgrace adding so little time on.
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #464 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:43 pm »
Lukaku
Lacazette
Kane
Morata
Aguero

The other top sides have a player through the middle who will score every week. That's the difference. Less pressure on the defence then too.
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #465 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:45 pm »
lack of effort from trying too hard at times?
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #466 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:49 pm »
Imagine if we'd lost.

One of has already said we have!

I get people are (mostly) venting, but I guarantee you that some will still be moaning until the weekend in this thread.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #467 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:49 pm »
How did firmino stay on the pitch the full 90 minutes?

Again our finishing is diabolical. How comes we need like 20 chances to convert one. We must have one of the worse shots to goals ratio in Europe at the moment

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #468 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:49 pm »
Decision to take Mane off bizarre to say the least. Fresh as daisy and Firmino and Salah quiet. Don't get it

Mane was not having a good game. He made some very poor decisions at times.
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #469 on: September 26, 2017, 09:53:57 pm »
So frustrating it’s beyond belief. Like Groundhog Day. Have all the ball, concede a stupid goal and don’t convert most chances.

Klopp must be fucking tearing his hair out. Spartak were so incredibly poor that at times they looked like a pub team. We should be embarrassed. We’re just an excruciatingly painful team to watch at times and nothing seems to change.

I’m sure someone will be along to say it was a great away point.
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #470 on: September 26, 2017, 09:54:03 pm »
What did he do that was so boss?
well, he should have gotten an assist but sturridge screwed it up. Won the ball back multiple times. His passing was passive though.
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #471 on: September 26, 2017, 09:54:05 pm »
Never change Liverpool fans. One set-back and your heads fall off again. Calm the fuck down. We played well enough and only drew due to an unlucky free kick, incredibly bad luck in front of goal and a bizarrely dreadful ref. Calm the fuck down.

Watford, Sevilla, Burnley, Leicester, Spartak Moscow... but sure, it's 'one set-back'. Along with all the other 'one set-backs'. Again, and I can't labour this point enough, it's not the results that are the issue, it's that it's the same problems leading to those results week in, week out.

We're still in a decent enough position to qualify from the group but we won't if we keep shooting ourselves in the foot.
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #472 on: September 26, 2017, 09:54:07 pm »
Spot on. Centre backs weren't bad.

They were fucking shocking.

I’ve heard of 50p heads, not 50p feet. Every fucking clearance seems to get ballooned directly up. Just fucking basics, christ just do the fucking basics.
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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #473 on: September 26, 2017, 09:54:10 pm »
Fucking clueless, every bit as bad as the 2014-15 CL campaign. If the team is consistently playing less than the sum of its parts, when do we start to question the manager?

Karius not good enough. Can should fuck off to Juventus as he so clearly wants to be there. Ref was a disgrace adding so little time on.

This right here epitomises the world of football circa 2017. Well done.


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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #474 on: September 26, 2017, 09:54:19 pm »
Lukaku
Lacazette
Kane
Morata
Aguero

The other top sides have a player through the middle who will score every week.
Salah has scored nearly every game

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #475 on: September 26, 2017, 09:54:19 pm »
Been happening all season. Lack of concentration from our attack and our defense. Like none of them can be arsed. Its not good enough at the moment. Needs to turn this bad spell around.
What a load of shite

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #476 on: September 26, 2017, 09:54:24 pm »
What did our defenders do wrong in that game? Anyone?

Pick your fucking heads up off the ground and stop typing shite. Bunch of fucking drama queens we have.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #477 on: September 26, 2017, 09:54:28 pm »
Could certainly have done with the win and really should have got it, but a draw isn't the worst result in the world given the context of the group. I'll start to worry only if we draw or lose at Maribor.

Still can't quite believe we didn't win that one. We seem to be in another one of those runs where, Leicester aside, the ball just refuses to go in. At least we're creating the chances still, but we should have created a few more even - time after time the final ball was off or wrong decisions were made. It can't all be down to luck but I firmly believe a lot of it is and we should (touch wood!) get back to winning ways sooner or later.

Can and Firmino were poor, I thought, and I still can't work out why Mane was hooked instead of Firmino when Sturridge came on - maybe because Klopp feels Mane's lack of recent games meant he couldn't do the full 90? Still, it seemed like an odd one, as Bobby was having one of those games. He hasn't been great for a couple of games now, but this one was particularly bad, and ditto Can.

Everyone else did well enough, I thought, although no particular standouts. Henderson was probably my man of the match, but generally it seemed like a decent team performance, but by no means a great one. Fair play to the Spartak crowd, that was some atmosphere. Their team was a bit shite though, even considering they were missing a few players, and I was pissed off with the amount of playacting and timewasting that went on.

Ah well. Like I said, I'm not to bothered, though a win would certainly have made the group a lot easier for us to navigate and we really should have got it tonight.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #478 on: September 26, 2017, 09:54:33 pm »
So basically if you time waste it will be rewarded is the message from the ref. Two fucking minutes rolling around in injury time and he adds on 30 seconds. No I'm not saying thats why we didn't win but it fucking infuriates me.

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Re: CL: Spartak 1 v Liverpool 1 (Fernando 23', Coutinho 30')
« Reply #479 on: September 26, 2017, 09:54:37 pm »
yup that was frustrating, makes a change us no scoring more... oh well.  They were awful though....
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