Topic: ST renewals

[Philipm20]

Looks like the card payment option may be working now

[Graham Smith]

That's an unbelievable update Graham thank you, but do you mind me asking - is the number going to stay at 13 or will it be adjusted accordingly? Basically I have 12 out of 15 games from the 19/20 season and was hoping the 'magic number' was going to be reduced.

Any clarity would be amazing.

Thanks

No changes to credit numbers for anyone and no credits applied this season.

[NeoAdjuvant]

That's infuriating. What's the justification behind keeping it at 13? I had a game refunded.

Thanks for the info

[Graham Smith]

That's infuriating. What's the justification behind keeping it at 13? I had a game refunded.

Thanks for the info

They froze last season for obvious reasons and with all the changes this season they want to suspend credits.

However they might be looking at last season's situation on a case by case basis.

[NeoAdjuvant]

Sorry, I meant the decision to keep the guaranteed sale for members at the 13+ mark. Is it staying at 13 or is it going to be reduced accordingly as there were only 15 games played with fans in attendance?

There's a page on the club website where they say they haven't made a decision yet about games being played behind closed doors counting as credits too.

[scouser102002]

Sorry, I meant the decision to keep the guaranteed sale for members at the 13+ mark. Is it staying at 13 or is it going to be reduced accordingly as there were only 15 games played with fans in attendance?

There's a page on the club website where they say they haven't made a decision yet about games being played behind closed doors counting as credits too.

If they include the cancelled games as credits then that will put me on 14. But they have disappeared from the purchase history so I highly doubt they will

[Graham Smith]

Sorry, I meant the decision to keep the guaranteed sale for members at the 13+ mark. Is it staying at 13 or is it going to be reduced accordingly as there were only 15 games played with fans in attendance?

There's a page on the club website where they say they haven't made a decision yet about games being played behind closed doors counting as credits too.

Just checked - what you have just said above is the current position. Sorry if I have misled.

[scouser102002]

Sorry Graham just to clarify

13 credits will be required for the guaranteed sale next season and these will be taken from the 19/20 season (the curtailed one) rather than the season before (18/19)?

[Thepooloflife]

I might be missing something here, but bear with me -

In the ST hub it says for home cup games next season 2021/22 the ACS will be based on criteria from 2019/20. They then say they won't be using game history for 2021/22 in future seasons but add in the bold bit below that game history in 2021/22 will only be used as we progress. Ok, but what about the allocation of tickets for the first game in each cup competition next season, after the ACS allocation has been accounted for - assuming there will be some over (based on a full stadium mind) ? What criteria are they going to use or how do they allocate these remaining tickets - on a 'first come first served basis' ?

'As our participation in the 2019/20 cup competitions was completed in its entirety, we will be using the game history from that season to help allocate access to the Auto Cup Schemes for the 2021/22 season.

Please note, we will not be allocating credits for games purchased during the 2021-22 season for use in future seasons; game history will only be used within the 2021-22 season to allocate tickets as we progress through the competitions.'

[liamo3]

Credits will be used from 19/20 going forward nothing last season will be counted.

No idea on when member's sale will be.

Are you sure about that Graham there is conflicting info over on the Rattle

Members question

Can the V12 finance be extended to the members bulk sales?

What season are they going off for credit criteria for members 18/19 or 19/20 as there were a lot members who broke their back in 19/20 season trying to get their games up on their own members card however the season went behind close doors but it would be a bit unfair to punish these members for that.

Similar to cup competitions for those not in the autocup what season will the club be going off?

Ł9.00 tickets and the members local sale are these getting binned now?

Members holiday how will this be implemented in terms of credits, will the club use 18/19 season or 19/20 season for credit criteria in 22/23 season.

Good shout from Retro on members to ST

League games are going off 18/19 - cup games from 19/20

League games in 22/23 will be based off 18/19

There are around 300 people who got the magic 13 last year who would miss out - compared to 700 if you went the other way.

[scouser102002]

Guess who’s in the 300

Fuck my life

[scouser102002]

I dont get the ‘if you go the other way’ though?

What other way?

How do 700 miss out if those on 13 last season are guaranteed when they would have been guaranteed normally should those 4 games have taken place

[scouser102002]

Going back 4 years for league credits because 1 and a bit seasons were behind closed doors

Shite

[redgriffin73]

I might be missing something here, but bear with me -

In the ST hub it says for home cup games next season 2021/22 the ACS will be based on criteria from 2019/20. They then say they won't be using game history for 2021/22 in future seasons but add in the bold bit below that game history in 2021/22 will only be used as we progress. Ok, but what about the allocation of tickets for the first game in each cup competition next season, after the ACS allocation has been accounted for - assuming there will be some over (based on a full stadium mind) ? What criteria are they going to use or how do they allocate these remaining tickets - on a 'first come first served basis' ?

'As our participation in the 2019/20 cup competitions was completed in its entirety, we will be using the game history from that season to help allocate access to the Auto Cup Schemes for the 2021/22 season.

Please note, we will not be allocating credits for games purchased during the 2021-22 season for use in future seasons; game history will only be used within the 2021-22 season to allocate tickets as we progress through the competitions.'

I'd have thought it would be 19/20 as they've said they can use it for the ACS as the cups were completed so it would make sense.

[CHOPPER]

Looks like the card payment option may be working now

Yep, all sorted now but is it just me - does our website make you feel like you've missed or forgotten something, when you've logged out? There's a vagueness to it that adds doubt.

Simple fans want simple sites.

[Roughie Scouse]

Friends and family will be brought in before the season starts.

Once named, they are name for the season.

F&F for STH does not have to be a member.

If you need to take a season off, you can and come back next season (22/23) - you can't come back this season in January when we are top again.

Smartphones needed to allow access to ground - one passing on allowed to a F&F who will have to have the app on their smartphone too.

Those who haven't got a smartphone being worked on for a solution.

Adult and child will probably be a double click at turnstile from adult's phone - click kid in, then adult clicks in after.

Full repayment within 24 hours for season tickets returned to Club for resale  - returning up to late in morning of game.

Is it correct that if I nominate 6 F&F (as a season ticket holder), they don't have to be members?

[Graham Smith]

Is it correct that if I nominate 6 F&F (as a season ticket holder), they don't have to be members?

Correct and neither will members' F&F ned to be members. Clarification earlier.

[scouser102002]

However they might be looking at last season's situation on a case by case basis.

So this could still work out for those getting to 13 last season if they use 18/19 credits?

[Harinder]

Credits will be used from 19/20 going forward nothing last season will be counted.

No idea on when member's sale will be.

Correction. 19/20 respective to cup competitions.

[redgriffin73]

Correct and neither will members' F&F ned to be members. Clarification earlier.

Thank you for this clarification.

[30fiver]

I dont get the ‘if you go the other way’ though?

What other way?

How do 700 miss out if those on 13 last season are guaranteed when they would have been guaranteed normally should those 4 games have taken place

Think it means if they counted the 4 cancelled games there'd be 700 make the jump, if they counted the 15 games there'd be 300?

[Craig67]

I still can't get through the card details pop up if I select the Auto cup options? Don't want to leave them and try and add them later.

[Craig S]

I still can't get through the card details pop up if I select the Auto cup options? Don't want to leave them and try and add them later.

You could try adding it as a saved card in your profile. Then go thru the ST renewal again.
Not done mine yet as waiting on a new 0% credit card to use

[TTB]

I have tired adding a saved card. Keep getting the popup.

[30fiver]

I still can't get through the card details pop up if I select the Auto cup options? Don't want to leave them and try and add them later.

No rush mate, got till mid may for them to sort their shite site out

[scouser102002]

Think it means if they counted the 4 cancelled games there'd be 700 make the jump, if they counted the 15 games there'd be 300?

Ah, fucking over people who actually went in favour of people who didnt but might have

Logical

[Craig67]

No rush mate, got till mid may for them to sort their shite site out

Yeah I know you're right just keen to get it out of the way 

[30fiver]

Ah, fucking over people who actually went in favour of people who didnt but might have

Logical

Actually sorry... I have a better interpretation of that now I've read it again....

I think it means there's 700 people who had 13+ in 18/19 but hadn't got 13 from the 15 played so far in 19/20

So if they went on just games played in 19/20 then 700 would miss out, then 300 would make the jump

[scouser102002]

Actually sorry... I have a better interpretation of that now I've read it again....

I think it means there's 700 people who had 13+ in 18/19 but hadn't got 13 from the 15 played so far in 19/20

So if they went on just games played in 19/20 then 700 would miss out, then 300 would make the jump

Then that's their fault. If they got 13 in 18/19 then they were guaranteed all 15 in 19/20

Again, they are punishing those that did attend in favour of those that didnt.

[30fiver]

Then that's their fault. If they got 13 in 18/19 then they were guaranteed all 15 in 19/20

Again, they are punishing those that did attend in favour of those that didnt.

I wouldn't say it's their fault if they purchased 13/14/15/16 out of 19 fixtures having gone for serval seasons then had last 4 games cancelled

Some people just cant attend mid weeks so don't buy them or go away for a month etc...

Should be 13+ from either 18/19 or 19/20 - but I imagine too many would qualify for what the club want those 13+ numbers to be

[30fiver]

Especially when COVID wasn't even a thing in the November sales

[scouser102002]

I'm just vexxing mate.

I've gone from expecting to be at all 19 games next season to being lucky if I can pick up a handful.

Guess there's worse things in the world.

[30fiver]

I think everyone next season will be fine, might will be difficult the following year for sure

Hopefully they do it as 13 from either season if their numbers allow

[scouser102002]

We'll see, it's all just speculation after all

[redgriffin73]

I'm just vexxing mate.

I've gone from expecting to be at all 19 games next season to being lucky if I can pick up a handful.

Guess there's worse things in the world.

If they bring in a ballot for the old Cat C like is being threatened, no one can expect the full 19 any more sadly.

[30fiver]

If they bring in a ballot for the old Cat C like is being threatened, no one can expect the full 19 any more sadly.

My F5 key for the late availability sales will be getting a spanking!

[redgriffin73]

My F5 key for the late availability sales will be getting a spanking!

[Thepooloflife]

I'd have thought it would be 19/20 as they've said they can use it for the ACS as the cups were completed so it would make sense.

Well that would make sense yes.....unusual for our TO.  But, then after the first game (assuming we go through to the next rounds) they bin 19/20 and go with game history within 21/22 as we progress ? Wish they'd make it simple.

[30fiver]

Will need 19/20 to get the first game, then the 2nd game will only require the first game of 21/22

Always the case in cup comps for home games

[Thepooloflife]

Will need 19/20 to get the first game, then the 2nd game will only require the first game of 21/22

Always the case in cup comps for home games

Well yes, cheers mate - I see that now....just wish they'd be clearer in the printed messaging they send out. I'm only asking 'cos I want to see if it's possible to get tickets for F&F under this new scheme where they don't have to be ST's or members. So, given the above, looks like it's going to be unlikely if you have to have game history from 19/20.....the blurb does say 'subject to availability and eligibility' so might prove difficult.