Yeah and some teams can put away the fodder and can't get a point off the big boys. If we were excellent at every thing we would be winning the league every year. You've come to the end of the line with this set of players? Ok if they win the league next year I suppose you'll excuse yourself from the celebrations? Once again I reiterate there is a difference between moaning and critiquing. I'm happy to engage in debate with people who are a bit less optimistic than myself, have no time for the fellas waiting by their keyboard with the knives out when we're 2-1 down in the 92nd minute of a game.
if we had the same squad of players for 2 or 3 years who consistently beat the lesser teams but couldnt get points off the top six and thus failed to win things then i would be saying the same thing; changes need to be made. The aim surely has to be to become excellent, not just accepting that we cant be good at everything. We have a world class manager and world class resources. We hear a lot about daring to believe yet expectations is a dirty word.
I have come to the end of the line with this set of players, yes, your "if we win the league next season" line is imo redundant because if we persist with this squad without considerable investment then we wont be anywhere near the title. And im not just saying that out of being a miserable bastard, it is based on realism and all the evidence they have given us; this is a group of players who lost 2 cup finals last season (one in an embarrassing capitulation, the other we just didnt turn up and only scored 1 out of 4 pens), bottled a trip to wembley against villa in the semis of the fa cup, got dumped out of 2 cups at home in a week in january, spent christmas going from title challengers to to being outside of the top four, gave our greatest ever player a 1-6 hiding in his big send off, cost a manager his job...and so on. Klopp has managed to get multiple big performances out of them but they have never ever displayed signs of being winners as they go missing when we need them most. I hate to sound so utterly miserable, but this team has had a long time together under 2 very good managers and consistently have let them and us down. Theyve never won anything together, most of them have never won anything in their careers and any time we have come close they have blown it.
Of course i'll celebrate if we win the league with these players. I will absolute lose my head and itd be the best time of my life, having never been so fortunate to see us lift that trophy before. I even got myself carried away in the first half of the season believing that with klopps influence he might just be able to drag us to it. But hes trying to achieve something special with the 5th or 6th best squad in the league. Its time to give him something a bit more than that to play with.